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Title: Now I want a 3d printer
Post by: TAB on March 14, 2021, 11:51:01 PM




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Title: Re: Now I want a 3d printer
Post by: tombogan03884 on March 15, 2021, 08:10:11 AM
Has all sorts of possibilities.   ;D

Manufacturing is slowly moving to the point where some one will build a single prototype, then license the printer program to manufacturers.
It will become pointless to file for patents when the software can be copy righted for 75 years of protection.
I look forward to the day that getting ammo, or a new gun is as easy as printing out an E Mail.   ;D
Title: Re: Now I want a 3d printer
Post by: tombogan03884 on March 17, 2021, 08:17:42 AM
Your biggest enemies will be manufacturers and dealer's who will whine about losing business after failing to meet demand.
Title: Re: Now I want a 3d printer
Post by: Rastus on March 21, 2021, 08:52:19 AM
HEAVEN FORBID!

It bears keeping an eye on it.  Even though the current generation probably can't mix the chemicals needed....remember Kodak?  They didn't jump on the digital bandwagon....I'm just sayin'...
Title: Re: Now I want a 3d printer
Post by: tombogan03884 on March 21, 2021, 10:54:36 AM
C&Rsenal mentioned it in their podcast that good machines are under $300.
I've been watching some video's on basics.
Matt, from Fuddbusters mentioned a site called " https://ctrlpew.com/" I need to check out next.
It seems they provide programs for non gun part gun parts, like a barrel made from a piece of pipe with EDM rifling and Chamber.
Title: Re: Now I want a 3d printer
Post by: sammy00 on April 30, 2021, 06:46:07 AM
I believe that now the prospects for 3D printing are extremely promising. Scientists are actively developing existing methods of 3D printing, developing new technologies and types of materials, finding new areas of application. Many call 3D printing the technology of the future, and I think so too. Given the great interest of scientists in the technique of 3D bioprinting, which is one of the most promising technologies for 3D printing, the production of artificial organs on a 3D printer is not far off. In general, it seems to me that in 10 years to have a 3D printer at home it will be a common thing. And everyone will be able to print what he wants. I think that printers will also change, become more reliable, high-quality, and most importantly - affordable.
Title: Re: Now I want a 3d printer
Post by: Timothy on April 30, 2021, 07:52:14 AM
3D printers have been around for over a decade.  Yes, they’re get more affordable but unless you do your own modeling (which I made living producing) you need to pay for the CADCAM files to load them.  Machinists like Tom who can do direct programming if familiar with G and M code may fair better.
Title: Re: Now I want a 3d printer
Post by: tombogan03884 on April 30, 2021, 08:01:00 AM
3D printers have been around for over a decade.  Yes, they’re get more affordable but unless you do your own modeling (which I made living producing) you need to pay for the CADCAM files to load them.  Machinists like Tom who can do direct programming if familiar with G and M code may fair better.

No you don't.
Pretty much anything you want to print is already available free on sites like Thingiverse.
The majority of the technology is open source .
I've been printing constantly for a couple weeks and haven't seen a bit of actual code.
There is a way to access it in Cura, but I haven't needed to change any of that.
Also all you need for the initial modeling is a smart phone, or stereo camera and a lazy susan.
The software for that is a free download as well.

Anybody can do this.
Title: Re: Now I want a 3d printer
Post by: Timothy on April 30, 2021, 08:56:17 AM
Great to hear TB! 

Is there a market for sex dolls?    LOL
Title: Re: Now I want a 3d printer
Post by: tombogan03884 on April 30, 2021, 04:51:47 PM
Great to hear TB! 

Is there a market for sex dolls?    LOL

With all the "gamer" types posting troll's and crap I was shocked to only see 1 dildo plan in all the sights I browsed.   ;D   looking for ACCURATE Napoleonic figures, and actual human knights.
Darned few, it's all LOTR, and Sci Fi.
Title: Re: Now I want a 3d printer
Post by: billt on May 01, 2021, 05:56:27 AM
Bear with me, as I know nothing about this process. But if you 3D print something out of metal. Do you have to sinter it, (heat treat it), so it has strength? Much like they do carbide inserts for cutting tools. They are pressed into a die from powdered metal. As they come from the press you can all but crumble them with your fingers. However, once they have been through the sintering process, they are almost as hard and tough as a diamond. (72+ Rockwell C). Is this the same deal?
Title: Re: Now I want a 3d printer
Post by: BAC on May 01, 2021, 06:09:18 AM
Bear with me, as I know nothing about this process. But if you 3D print something out of metal. Do you have to sinter it, (heat treat it), so it has strength? Much like they do carbide inserts for cutting tools. They are pressed into a die from powdered metal. As they come from the press you can all but crumble them with your fingers. However, once they have been through the sintering process, they are almost as hard and tough as a diamond. (72+ Rockwell C). Is this the same deal?

I interviewed for a place that makes carbide parts.  Luckily I didn't get the job, 'cause that dust is constantly in the air and leaves a film on everything.  It's bad enough breathing in airborne coolant all night.  I couldn't imagine what carbide dust would do to my lungs.

My wife worked for that company for years, and she HATED having to go to Carbide.
Title: Re: Now I want a 3d printer
Post by: tombogan03884 on May 01, 2021, 09:03:44 AM
Bear with me, as I know nothing about this process. But if you 3D print something out of metal. Do you have to sinter it, (heat treat it), so it has strength? Much like they do carbide inserts for cutting tools. They are pressed into a die from powdered metal. As they come from the press you can all but crumble them with your fingers. However, once they have been through the sintering process, they are almost as hard and tough as a diamond. (72+ Rockwell C). Is this the same deal?

No.
This just melts plastic.
They have filiments that have metals or wood mixed in, but it's only for appearances.
They don't actually add any strength, and they are abrasive as hell on the extruder nozzle
I don't know about the industrial size machines.
Title: Re: Now I want a 3d printer
Post by: Big Frank on May 04, 2021, 04:49:09 AM
Bear with me, as I know nothing about this process. But if you 3D print something out of metal. Do you have to sinter it, (heat treat it), so it has strength? Much like they do carbide inserts for cutting tools. They are pressed into a die from powdered metal. As they come from the press you can all but crumble them with your fingers. However, once they have been through the sintering process, they are almost as hard and tough as a diamond. (72+ Rockwell C). Is this the same deal?

I saw a video online where they were 3D printing stuff with powdered metal and sintering each layer with a laser as it printed. That's got to be some expensive equipment. Someplace online was selling AR charging handle coffee scoops that were 3D printed that really looked like crap. The finish was very rough where each layer of the bowl of it stepped down, otherwise I would have posted it. It looked like the coffee would stick to it and you wouldn't be able to wash and dry it with a cloth without filling it with lint. I just found this pic on etsy that looks the same, only better. You could make these things from plastic all day, but Mil-Spec Type III, Class 2 anodized hardcoat, forged 7075-T6 aluminum would be better. :)
Title: Re: Now I want a 3d printer
Post by: sammy00 on June 09, 2021, 04:09:14 AM
My hobby is 3D printing and I spend a lot of time on it.I also want to create my own YouTube channel about 3D printing. But for the last six months I've been putting it off because there were a lot of problems besides. But maybe this summer I will do it. I still want to buy a new 3D printer, a more professional one, and a good camera to shoot video. It certainly takes a lot of money, but I hope https://mr.bet/at will help me with that. So maybe someday I will become a famous blogger)
Title: Re: Now I want a 3d printer
Post by: BAC on June 09, 2021, 06:19:40 AM
Oh look, sammy00 posted a link. Let me just click on that straight away!
Title: Re: Now I want a 3d printer
Post by: Rastus on June 11, 2021, 08:15:32 AM
Oh look, sammy00 posted a link. Let me just click on that straight away!

Yeah...that's what I am going to do...    :o
Title: Re: Now I want a 3d printer
Post by: tombogan03884 on June 11, 2021, 09:06:53 AM
He hasn't posted since I asked him a direct question about 3 D printing.
On that subject, my evaluation of the Creality Ender 3 Pro is that it's cool as hell for the few weeks it actually worked.

Since then I have learned that customer support is nonexistent unless you have Amazon threaten their "seller's credentials" and while the metal frame and bed are really well built, the electronic stuff is the cheapest shit available.
My current options are,
try to cobble it back together,
Kick it up some Chinaman's ass,
or start doing some studying and try to build a reliable machine on the solid base using good components.
American made is not an option since there are none that will fit in my Apt, and if there were they are all $1000+.
4X what I paid.
Title: Re: Now I want a 3d printer
Post by: Timothy on June 11, 2021, 09:17:35 AM
The first time I saw one in action was 11 years ago for prototypes from Solidworks.  They were extremely expensive and unobtainable to normal humans.  I suspect a good one would still be pricey today!  A good one might still be in the 5-10K range.

Amazon is not a reliable anything unless you own stock in a packaging company!
Title: Re: Now I want a 3d printer
Post by: tombogan03884 on June 11, 2021, 01:19:05 PM
The first time I saw one in action was 11 years ago for prototypes from Solidworks.  They were extremely expensive and unobtainable to normal humans.  I suspect a good one would still be pricey today!  A good one might still be in the 5-10K range.

Amazon is not a reliable anything unless you own stock in a packaging company!

No, of the "Home hobbiest" brands I got one of the 2-3 best on the market.
My problem is that they are built for people who like screwing around with "Arduino", not some shmuck who just wants to print stuff.
The industrial grade ones can still go to $50K for metal, or other materials, but seem to average around $5 K for a plain old plastic squirter.
Title: Re: Now I want a 3d printer
Post by: tombogan03884 on June 11, 2021, 04:38:23 PM
F- it.
 The inside of that printer looks like a snakes nest, and I have no idea what any of it does.
Could really say the same about the inside of a light switch.
Some times I have trouble changing batteries.
So I ordered a new motherboard and will just swap the wires,.
How hard can it be.    ;D


Should I video this ?   ;D

Actually, considering my skill level if I can do it with out knowledge beyond the internet, and no tools beyond what comes with the machine, it would probably be interesting.
I would have to do it, take it apart, and redo it for the camera so people hear a running description of what I'm doing instead of the muttering and swearing while I'm actually doing it.   ;D

Just dive in, and muddle through is how the British Empire got built.   ;D   ;D
Title: Re: Now I want a 3d printer
Post by: tombogan03884 on June 13, 2021, 09:23:46 AM
 ;D YouTube video's, a little sack of cheap tools that came with the printer and
#1, I have a new motherboard installed,
#2 The friggin' thing WORKS !   :o  ;D
Sort of, the defective bed heater is fixed, but now I have to configure the software to ignore the temp sensor that I'm not using.
Apparently these are not exactly "3D Printers", they are starter kits, Like an AR 15   ;D
This new motherboard is so quite I have to watch the gantry to know if the Z axis is moving !   :o
I kind of miss the little squeak's and whirrs that I thought of as "Happy maker noises"     ;D
Far more memory, a lot of things I still don't understand, but I know they are benefits. But I don't plan on dual extruders, or Auto leveling, so I have open plugs to work around. I've found an entry on Github that tells me exactly what to do line by line, (It's a 200,000+ line program, a little help is GREATLY appreciated   ;D  ) I just have to figure out the download/ flash/update stuff and I should be back in business.
Not much older, but much wiser since I've been using the down time to actually learn about 3 D printing.   ;D
Title: Re: Now I want a 3d printer
Post by: tombogan03884 on June 19, 2021, 09:21:02 AM
 >:( 
 Messed around with files, text editors, and my computer etc, I don't even know the right words for this stuff, I really got no where.
This is the shit we called the IT guy for at work.
There is a computer repair place I walk by on my way to and from the Coffee Shop I go to every day, twice.
I may not know computers, but I can put 2 and 2 together with the best of them.
So, I take my printer to this so called "computer expert", 2 days of explaining the board, the machine, and my very basic, SIMPLE, problem, he can't understand what I'm trying to tell him . So he e mails the Board manufacturer, They replied in Chinese, which I thought was poetic justice.  ;D , but the company couldn't help him comprehend "flashing an update to the processor.'
So I suggested he do what I did, Google "Marlin 2.0 error code E-1" and follow the links.
I shit you not, Google couldn't help this idiot.    :o
I've never heard of such a thing.
Did I mention he expected to get paid ? I expected my printer to be fixed, we're both disappointed. No cure No pay .
F#cking GOOGLE, and he still can't understand ?
I think he drools on himself.
So I took home the printer then I went to the Comic store across the street and put out an offer for one of those 12 year old gamers who prints their own Orc's and stuff . $30 or a roll of print filament their choice.
I'm hoping the taker will be about 7 and a girl.
When my printer is running I want to introduce the fixer to the phony so he'll have some one to ask questions.    ;D

I can't get over, Frigging GOOGLE couldn't help him.   ::)
Title: Re: Now I want a 3d printer
Post by: TAB on January 09, 2022, 03:58:34 PM
So I have a prusa i3 mk3s+.   

I have some ideas for stuff I want to make, Just because.  Building homes while rewarding, is very boring.   
Title: Re: Now I want a 3d printer
Post by: tombogan03884 on January 09, 2022, 08:30:58 PM
So I have a prusa i3 mk3s+.   

I have some ideas for stuff I want to make, Just because.  Building homes while rewarding, is very boring.

Needed a new butter dish, it will be done about noon.   ;D
Title: Re: Now I want a 3d printer
Post by: TAB on January 16, 2022, 11:47:29 PM
My 1st task is to build some stuff for the bow, just have to find the time to design them in cad.  Trying really hard to get homes built.

Its a tinker toy at the moment, dl some stuff to try out.  Still waiting on some filament.  I did find this



I am not much for idea crap, but thats an awesome idea.
Title: Re: Now I want a 3d printer
Post by: tombogan03884 on January 17, 2022, 12:34:32 PM
It's an amusing PITA.   ;D
Title: Re: Now I want a 3d printer
Post by: TAB on January 18, 2022, 03:33:38 PM
Went a head and ordered 2 of the tables and downloaded the print files.  Going to play around with it this weekend.