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Title: Bianchi Cup
Post by: alfsauve on November 16, 2022, 09:56:46 AM
Seems the CMP has taken over the Bianchi Cup, which will still be held at Green Valley R&P in MO, since CMP doesn't have the facilities.  They could put in a mover but financially that might be a big loser.  However, there will be significant, to be announced, rule changes.   Since this is a May event they need to get those rules out soon.

https://thecmp.org/cmp-green-valley-rifle-pistol-club-set-to-host-bianchi-cup-action-shooting-competition-in-2023/

Bianchi is on my bucket list, but so few places hold matches.  Plates, Practical and Barricade I can practice but the Mover requires a special range.  The nearest I've found to ATL is Tallahassee. 
Title: Re: Bianchi Cup
Post by: alfsauve on November 16, 2022, 07:44:14 PM
Of course CMP already has its own rules for Bullseye shooting, oh excuse me, Precision Pistol.  I just read through the differences which are mostly nits, though to serious shooters these can be a big deal.  Clubs are already divided, some following NRA and some CMP.  How this shakes out for world records and claim to national titles isn’t clear.
Title: Re: Bianchi Cup
Post by: alfsauve on November 22, 2022, 10:53:47 AM
CMP has now posted the new rules for the Bianchi Cup formerly known as NRA Action Pistol.

First, the rules on Production division are rather strict.   You can't use a gun where you recut the rear sight slot.  That knocks out my 1911, not that that's an ideal choice anyway.   Of course you can shoot in the Metallic division instead.  Revolvers are limited to a 6.0" barrel.  That could get tricky because I think Smith's have somewhere between a 0"+.25" tolerance.  I'll have to measure mine.  And the blurb about all safety features makes me wonder if removing the hammer block is allowed.  Most everyone throws those away. And of course revolvers have to shoot the DA only and there no separate division for them.

There's some confusion in the Falling Plate stage description as the text says the plate is 8" round, but the picture shows a shorten Pepper Popper 12" in diameter.

Rimfire is now allowed but the range must provide different plate racks with lighter plates (1/4" thick) for them

THE BIGGEST CHANGE is that prone position has been removed from Plates. 

https://thecmp.org/wp-content/uploads/2022/11/2023-CMP-Action-Pistol-Rules.pdf (https://thecmp.org/wp-content/uploads/2022/11/2023-CMP-Action-Pistol-Rules.pdf)
Title: Re: Bianchi Cup
Post by: Rastus on November 22, 2022, 12:27:21 PM
Getting rid of prone should help the old folks...
Title: Re: Bianchi Cup
Post by: alfsauve on November 22, 2022, 03:23:52 PM
Prone is still allowed in the Practical at the longer distances.  Bummer.
Title: Re: Bianchi Cup
Post by: alfsauve on August 31, 2023, 11:46:03 AM
I'm starting to look more into this Bianchi Cup.

The 2023 Cup had 9 Revolver shooters, all in the Open division.  I'm going for Production since I won't have optic, comp or wings.

Because this is NRA based(history) there's a bias against using any one place to advertise, register, squad, pay or post scores.  Almost none are posted on Practiscore.   CMP hasn't updated their competition web site to allow you to search for Action Pistol (the formal name) and if you search through ALL pistol matches all you find are multigun or Precision Pistol.  Google search got me to one club, then I've had to ferret out the information the old fashion way but calling and mailing to get leads to others.   Scores for the most part are just emailed to the participants or put on the clubs web site.   Not very conducive to attracting new shooters.

I've found 10 clubs that hold, or recently held matches.  The closest is Tallahassee a 6 hour drive.  I've initiated contact with them and will go down at least twice before the next Cup.  Which as far as I can tell hasn't been announced.  Hoping CMP will move it to Talladega.

Rules have changed a bit.  Revolvers can have 6.5" barrels.  And it appears they can shoot Single Action in Open and Metallic Divisions.

First step is to sight in my 686 at 50yds and see how it groups with various ammo. 

Now here's a scary thought.  What's my goal after that?  More USPSA?  IDPA?  Steel Challenge? Or try out more RSCA?  Or heaven forbid Bullseye.  No, I'm not going 3 gun.  MAYBE tactical rifle game.  One gun only though.
Title: Re: Bianchi Cup
Post by: Majer on August 31, 2023, 12:45:51 PM
Alf, maybe you should look into OFSDAR's after Action pistol.




(Old Farts Shooting Double Action Revolvers) I'm sure a lot of us qualify... ;D ;D
Title: Re: Bianchi Cup
Post by: Rastus on September 01, 2023, 07:45:12 AM
Good luck Al.  It's a shame when institutions overreach and gum up the works.  And a 6 hour drive to practice...dang I would need to go through two naps to get there as old as I am. 

However, I'm especially interested to see if the groupings change very much from ammo to ammo in your revolver. 
Title: Re: Bianchi Cup
Post by: MikeBjerum on September 02, 2023, 09:10:37 AM
Getting rid of prone should help the old folks...

Every time I scan this I catch on this point.  Even in the midst of PT for my knee, and in attempting to keep up with the exercises, that damn ground seems to be getting further away every week. Maybe I'm just getting taller, but I don't want to be timed going into prone.
Title: Re: Bianchi Cup
Post by: Rastus on September 02, 2023, 12:04:34 PM
Losing 20 lbs has helped....but it ain't never gonna be like it used to be on this side of life.
Title: Re: Bianchi Cup
Post by: PegLeg45 on September 02, 2023, 04:28:26 PM
Every time I scan this I catch on this point.  Even in the midst of PT for my knee, and in attempting to keep up with the exercises, that damn ground seems to be getting further away and harder every week. Maybe I'm just getting taller, but I don't want to be timed going into prone.

FIFY....and, yep.
Title: Re: Bianchi Cup
Post by: MikeBjerum on October 15, 2023, 06:32:40 PM
FIFY....and, yep.

The saying that at our age you shouldn't get on the floor without a plan on how to get back up has hit me hard.  Last week I had a health scare, found my self on the family room floor, and it took three paramedics to get me up. They got me vertical and quickly realized that if they didn't maintain a tight grip on me and move quickly with the cot they would be doing it all over again.

I've been thinking that a gantry crane might not be a bad appliance to have around.
Title: Re: Bianchi Cup
Post by: Rastus on October 15, 2023, 10:59:33 PM
What was the scare?