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Title: Smoke'em if ya got'em...ammo availability
Post by: Hottrockin on March 11, 2009, 06:31:17 PM
Perhaps a thread for updating ammo availability as they come along?

Ammunition To Go >>>  http://www.ammunitiontogo.com/ (http://www.ammunitiontogo.com/) seems to have gotten in a new shipment and have some nice offerings; .380 ACP, 9MM, 40 S&W as well as some .223 / 5.56 stuff you and your "friend" my wanna munch on!

I've ordered from this site and they seemed very good in correspondence, billing & timeliness.  Maybe we can ALL keep each other informed of his and / or her preferred website for ammo updates / availability?

keep havin’ fun and send’em down range responsibly



Title: Re: Smoke'em if ya got'em...ammo availability
Post by: tombogan03884 on March 11, 2009, 07:41:11 PM
NO 7.62X39
Title: Re: Smoke'em if ya got'em...ammo availability
Post by: r_w on March 11, 2009, 07:57:18 PM
Cabela's had some new bulk in the KC store, including some upper-tier defensive loads in bulk in 9, 40 and 45.  I saw 223 and x39, too. 

I was on the way to the airport, I hope there is still some left when I get back :-\

Maybe I shouldn't have said anything.... :-X
Title: Re: Smoke'em if ya got'em...ammo availability
Post by: Pathfinder on March 12, 2009, 06:48:36 AM
One of the local shops has a couple of cases of PMC Bronze in .223, 55gr FMJ, about 46 cents per round - obviously retail but on the shelf. I'm not familiar with PMC Bronze, can anyone help here, is this a decent rount?
Title: Re: Smoke'em if ya got'em...ammo availability
Post by: SwoopSJ on March 12, 2009, 07:00:51 AM
I feel like Christmas just came around again.  The 1000 rounds of .223 I ordered in Oct/Nov, was just shipped yesterday.  Also, it only cost me $256!    :o  Of course that's   because I ordered it before the real ammo shortage set in and it is Wolf.  My M&P 15T eats the stuff with no problems though, so hurray for me!   ;D  Time to go load up a few clips... errr... mags and send some down range.

Swoop
 
Title: Re: Smoke'em if ya got'em...ammo availability
Post by: atmiller on March 12, 2009, 07:16:12 AM
I feel like Christmas just came around again.  The 1000 rounds of .223 I ordered in Oct/Nov, was just shipped yesterday.  Also, it only cost me $256!    :o  Of course that's   because I ordered it before the real ammo shortage set in and it is Wolf.  My M&P 15T eats the stuff with no problems though, so hurray for me!   ;D  Time to go load up a few clips... errr... mags and send some down range.

Swoop
 

Sportsman's Guide had 1000 rounds of .223 for $261 right now. 
Title: Re: Smoke'em if ya got'em...ammo availability
Post by: atmiller on March 12, 2009, 07:18:51 AM
$299 for 1000 rounds of Wolf .223 at local shop.  They have a couple of pallets available, along with pallets of other brands and calibers.  No ammo shortage here, except for Wal Mart. 

Title: Re: Smoke'em if ya got'em...ammo availability
Post by: cookie62 on March 12, 2009, 07:29:16 AM
One of the local shops has a couple of cases of PMC Bronze in .223, 55gr FMJ, about 46 cents per round - obviously retail but on the shelf. I'm not familiar with PMC Bronze, can anyone help here, is this a decent rount?

It's pretty good ammo, the only thing is it's kinda sooty. But, runs great in my M&P
Title: Re: Smoke'em if ya got'em...ammo availability
Post by: SwoopSJ on March 12, 2009, 09:07:50 AM
I had a brain fart during my last post, which seem to be coming more and more frequently.  (The brain farts not the posts, unfortunately)  I paid $236, so I'm even happier now.  I guess ammo hasn't gone up that much in the last few months... if you can find it.

Swoop


Title: Re: Smoke'em if ya got'em...ammo availability
Post by: tombogan03884 on March 12, 2009, 11:53:46 AM
 Midway Wolf 7.62X39 $350+ /1000 sold out no back order.
Title: Re: Smoke'em if ya got'em...ammo availability
Post by: r_w on March 12, 2009, 12:39:26 PM
Midway Wolf 7.62X39 $350+ /1000 sold out no back order.

I think the no back order thing is how they deal with not knowing what the new price will be when they can get it in. 
Title: Re: Smoke'em if ya got'em...ammo availability
Post by: twyacht on March 12, 2009, 03:47:38 PM
One of the local shops has a couple of cases of PMC Bronze in .223, 55gr FMJ, about 46 cents per round - obviously retail but on the shelf. I'm not familiar with PMC Bronze, can anyone help here, is this a decent rount?

Have a little over 750 rds. of PMC Bronze, shot 250 rds. in my Sig 556 with NO issues, misfires, FTF, or FTE.
Pretty solid round.

Me and a shooting partner split a 2000rd. order,from ammoman.com, when they had it. Glad the shipping was free, (might not be now). That load was heavy.

I didn't really notice it more "sooty" than other brands. After shooting 5 30rd mags, it wasn't any dirtier.



Title: Re: Smoke'em if ya got'em...ammo availability
Post by: Badgersmilk on March 13, 2009, 04:46:03 PM
I'd guess Midway's handleing this the same way I and other vendors did in the past (regardless of product).  Once they have more than a certain number of backorders they quit taking them until they can catch up.  That way customers dont start getting bent out of shape thinking.  "CRAP!  I backordered that three months ago and havent heard a thing!  JERKS!"  If that happens Midway not only looses that one order, but any future business from that customer because he feels Midway gave them the shaft.

My money would say the boys at Midway have lost MUCH sleep trying to figure out how to get you / me the ammo we want to buy!  Their just caught in the middle along with all the others.

My wife deals in metal sales every day.  She and others will tell you while demand is up, & brass, copper, steel, and lead are a little harder and more expensive to get in large quantity these days, the supply of raw materials would NOT cause anything like the bottle neck we're seeing in this industry!  Dont believe anyone trying to use raw material availability as an excuse.
Title: Re: Smoke'em if ya got'em...ammo availability
Post by: tombogan03884 on March 13, 2009, 05:07:27 PM
 I think it is more likely a combination of ALL the factors we have discussed here.
Title: Re: Smoke'em if ya got'em...ammo availability
Post by: Timothy on March 13, 2009, 06:42:54 PM
Just bought another 200 rounds of .45 ACP.

Any states that may have a Dicks Sporting Goods, they had plenty of 9mm, .40 S&W, .45 ACP, .380, plenty of revolver calibers and a ton of rifle cartridges in stock.  Didn't take inventory of the rifle stock cause I don't shoot any.  Can't hunt with a rifle in this state.  Everything appeared to be on sale if you buy by the case...

Boatloads of shotgun shells as well..



Title: Re: Smoke'em if ya got'em...ammo availability
Post by: Hottrockin on March 13, 2009, 06:58:40 PM
Tons of thanks for the info Timothy!  Keep'em coming!
Title: Re: Smoke'em if ya got'em...ammo availability
Post by: Badgersmilk on March 13, 2009, 08:25:37 PM
Timothy,  Gonna stop in there tommarow.  Thanks!  "cant hunt with a rifle!?!"  Your allowed shotguns right?

In Michigan we're only allowed rifles in the northern (less populated) half of the state.  They allow people to hunt deer with .410's here...   :-\
Title: Re: Smoke'em if ya got'em...ammo availability
Post by: Timothy on March 13, 2009, 08:31:39 PM
Timothy,  Gonna stop in there tommarow.  Thanks!  "cant hunt with a rifle!?!"  Your allowed shotguns right?

In Michigan we're only allowed rifles in the northern (less populated) half of the state.  They allow people to hunt deer with .410's here...   :-\

Nope, not deer anyway.  I think you can hunt coyote in the western hills of MA.  Not too sure.  Shotgun and muzzle loaders are fine.

I grew up in MI so I'm quite familiar with the hunting regs.  It's not due to population as much as the terrain.  The southern half of MI is pretty flat (but you knew that).   ::)  I hunted primarliy around western MI for small game and up near Cadilac for deer, town called Leroy.  My great, great, grand daddy founded the town...

Don't knock the .410, I watched a 9-10 year old girl drop a doe in it's tracks with one...
Title: Re: Smoke'em if ya got'em...ammo availability
Post by: Badgersmilk on March 14, 2009, 04:59:54 PM
Kinda surprised to hear you talk about coyote hunting in MA.  I guess the things have made their way into every state by now though.  Kinda stinks.  I've noticed they run off all the fox when they move in, of course rabbit hunting falls off to NILL.  Even grouse seem to thin out.

If you've been hunting up in that neck of the woods (mid-michigan) you likely have been to "Jay's".  LOVE that place!  More guns under one roof than I think I'll see anywhere else in my life!  Plus an army / navy store in the same building, dirt bike and atv shop 50 yards away, & you can buy any breed of dog in the world out of the back of somebody's car in their parking lot!  That parts a little weird no doubt.  But two of the three of our dogs (German short hair pointers) came from there with papers for under $200.!

 How many places have all that?!?
Title: Re: Smoke'em if ya got'em...ammo availability
Post by: tommy tornado on March 15, 2009, 01:44:26 PM
About to finish up reloading 600 rounds of .357 Mag, but now the problem is going to be finding more primers.  I am down to my last 1,000 small pistol.  Hopefully, I can catch a shipment on a website or local shop.
Title: Re: Smoke'em if ya got'em...ammo availability
Post by: ellis4538 on March 15, 2009, 01:49:34 PM
Watched a guy roll $2200 worth of factory ammo out the door of a local GS yesterday!  Can anybody say "stocking up"?

Richard

Lots of factory stuff around except at WW.  Haven't checked Dick's.
Title: Re: Smoke'em if ya got'em...ammo availability
Post by: Green Mountain Gringo on March 15, 2009, 05:32:45 PM
Haven't checked Dick's.

That's what she said.

(Sorry, if I hadn't done it somebody else would have.)
Title: Re: Smoke'em if ya got'em...ammo availability
Post by: Pathfinder on March 15, 2009, 06:25:31 PM
That's what she said.

(Sorry, if I hadn't done it somebody else would have.)

You may be something of a newbie, but damn! That was good.

Welcome aboard!!!!!   ;D
Title: Re: Smoke'em if ya got'em...ammo availability
Post by: TAB on March 16, 2009, 05:15:32 PM
I went to a box sporting goods store today... they had all the big flavors...  I don't get what the deal is... finding hand gun ammo is easy.  its just about $.50/ shot for plinking  hand gun ammo.
Title: Re: Smoke'em if ya got'em...ammo availability
Post by: ericire12 on March 16, 2009, 05:21:48 PM
Its been near dry in my neck of the woods since the election
Title: Re: Smoke'em if ya got'em...ammo availability
Post by: fightingquaker13 on March 18, 2009, 09:02:31 AM
I,m with TAB on this, at least as far as handgun practice stuff. Bass Pro is offering 250 packs of 9mm hardball for $55.
fightingquaker3
Title: Re: Smoke'em if ya got'em...ammo availability
Post by: weatherbyman on March 18, 2009, 07:12:44 PM
here in oregon ammo sells out every week especially in 38 special and 9mm. cant even get primers and powder sold out before it hits the shelf
Title: Re: Smoke'em if ya got'em...ammo availability
Post by: blackwolfe on March 18, 2009, 08:03:14 PM
Only .25 Auto at my local wally world last weekend, first timeI have seen that.  In the past they always had some handgun ammo.  Happened to go out of town yesterday and stopped at another wally world about 25 miles away.  They DID have 4 hundred packs of 9 mm and 3 boxes of .308.  Both places said that the warehouse is out.
Title: Re: Smoke'em if ya got'em...ammo availability
Post by: atmiller on March 21, 2009, 05:38:32 PM
The Outpost near Murfreesboro Tennessee has pallets full of cases of ammo in every common caliber.  No shortage there.  Only WalMart locally is dry, and that is because the local shops are buying up all of the ammo there and marking up the prices.  People panic when they see no ammo at WalMart, then they are willing to pay the outrageous prices at the gun shop. 




Title: Re: Smoke'em if ya got'em...ammo availability
Post by: Ping on March 22, 2009, 01:15:22 PM
Got lucky and finally found some .380 for the wife's Ruger LCP at Dunham's. Finally got to take her to the range to get familiarized with it. Paid $83 for a box of 100 rounds of Winchester and 50 rounds of Remington Express. My local gun shop is have a hard time finding ammo other than .40 Smith and Wesson.  >:(
Title: Re: Smoke'em if ya got'em...ammo availability
Post by: fightingquaker13 on March 23, 2009, 02:14:00 PM
Went to gander mountain today and they had tons of stuff, 762.39 .223 etc. A lot of it on sale.
I'd check them out.
fightingquaker13
Title: Re: Smoke'em if ya got'em...ammo availability
Post by: Hottrockin on March 23, 2009, 06:07:12 PM
Awesome ~fightingquaker13~! Glad ya found some deals!  Keep'em comin' dudes & dudettes!
Title: Re: Smoke'em if ya got'em...ammo availability
Post by: mosbear on March 26, 2009, 04:30:49 PM
Just got two bricks of CCI Standard Velocity in .22lr for the same price as usual, $28 a brick. This store got most of the ammo on the shelves. The prices remain fairly stable for at least four month. The other stores charge way more. Walmart is empty where I leave, but I bought 9mm recently at another Walmart 30 miles further down the road. Go figure!
Title: Re: Smoke'em if ya got'em...ammo availability
Post by: Ping on March 26, 2009, 04:45:59 PM
It is hit and miss around here. Strangest places have ammo to where the popular spots do not.  ???
Title: Re: Smoke'em if ya got'em...ammo availability
Post by: ericire12 on March 26, 2009, 04:57:59 PM
Still dry in my neighbor hood
Title: Re: Smoke'em if ya got'em...ammo availability
Post by: tombogan03884 on March 26, 2009, 11:49:35 PM
It is hit and miss around here. Strangest places have ammo to where the popular spots do not.  ???

Cause no one thinks to go to "strangest places ". ;D
Here in Laconia, the local GS never had much ammo on hand, no cases of anything, but it is on the water and geared more toward that, his prices have always been real high but he has not gone up much, from $7.50/ box of 20 wolf 7.62X39 to $8 in the past year. His selection is a little thinner.
At the range they can't keep up with demand for cases of .223 and 7.62X39, .223 1000Rds $545 only one left today No bulk 7.62. Pistol ammo is a little better, Fiocchi .45ACP $2250/box 9mm $17/box. I haven't checked Wally world but will do so soon and report.
Getting guns is a problem for the range, they are a Glock dealer and while I was there they called 4 distributors,ONE had some of the stuff they were looking for, but not all models, No Ruger GP 100's to be had, which stunk as that was what I was after. He told me to try back next week.
Title: Re: Smoke'em if ya got'em...ammo availability
Post by: fightingquaker13 on March 27, 2009, 04:41:34 AM

Getting guns is a problem for the range, they are a Glock dealer and while I was there they called 4 distributors,ONE had some of the stuff they were looking for, but not all models, No Ruger GP 100's to be had, which stunk as that was what I was after. He told me to try back next week.

Yeah, what is up with the gp-100 thing? I am considering trading in my Blackhawk in on one and they are damn scarce, particularly used. They can't be an AWB panic buy, I wouldn't think, and they'r too big to be ccw driven Is Ruger cutting back on production? I'm curious.
fightingquaker13
Title: Re: Smoke'em if ya got'em...ammo availability
Post by: tombogan03884 on March 27, 2009, 10:58:52 AM
Yeah, what is up with the gp-100 thing? I am considering trading in my Blackhawk in on one and they are damn scarce, particularly used. They can't be an AWB panic buy, I wouldn't think, and they'r too big to be ccw driven Is Ruger cutting back on production? I'm curious.
fightingquaker13

 Actually CCW is what I'm getting the 4 inch for, it's somewhat smaller than the Smiths and Taurus's I used to carry.
I have no facts to support this but I suspect that the increase in first time pistol buyers has something to do with it.
Title: Re: Smoke'em if ya got'em...ammo availability
Post by: blackwolfe on March 27, 2009, 12:29:53 PM
Can't remember where I heard it or read it, and this news is a little old, but as of December 31, 2008, Ruger was $48 million behind in outstanding orders.  I imagine it's a matter of production and scheduling which products get built when.  The $48 million number was released by Ruger in some kind of financial report.
Title: Re: Smoke'em if ya got'em...ammo availability
Post by: tombogan03884 on March 27, 2009, 04:41:17 PM
I knew they were WAY behind on LCP's
Title: Re: Smoke'em if ya got'em...ammo availability
Post by: atmiller on March 28, 2009, 07:44:48 AM
And now they have LCRs to keep up with too. 
Title: Re: Smoke'em if ya got'em...ammo availability
Post by: Ping on March 28, 2009, 10:51:59 AM
Glocks are very hard to find at the gun shops. Unless you have a FFL and able to purchase on www.gunbroker.com. The next best place to get one is at a gun show.
Title: Re: Smoke'em if ya got'em...ammo availability
Post by: TAB on March 28, 2009, 02:52:26 PM
Glocks are very hard to find at the gun shops. Unless you have a FFL and able to purchase on www.gunbroker.com. The next best place to get one is at a gun show.


locally about the only hand guns you can find are glocks.   That and really odd ball stuff, a local shop has a high standard target, with 4 mags.   If it was not for the fact its 22 short, it would be in my safe already.( I was there when they took it on consignment)
Title: Re: Smoke'em if ya got'em...ammo availability
Post by: tombogan03884 on March 28, 2009, 08:59:43 PM
 Around here it's SA revolvers, .22 pistols , bolt and lever rifles.
Title: Re: Smoke'em if ya got'em...ammo availability
Post by: fightingquaker13 on March 28, 2009, 09:02:57 PM

locally about the only hand guns you can find are glocks.   That and really odd ball stuff, a local shop has a high standard target, with 4 mags.   If it was not for the fact its 22 short, it would be in my safe already.( I was there when they took it on consignment)
That high standard's...ok...maybe...,but not nearly as good as a Browning Challenger II. ;D
fightingquaker13 who's just sayin'
Title: Re: Smoke'em if ya got'em...ammo availability
Post by: elnor on March 29, 2009, 02:21:59 PM
CheaperThanDirt has Winchester .44 Special 200gr Silvertips back in stock.  $21.26/box of 20rds.
Title: Re: Smoke'em if ya got'em...ammo availability
Post by: Hottrockin on March 29, 2009, 03:51:49 PM
Thanks for all the grrreat info guys 'n' gals...keep up the super work!
Title: Re: Smoke'em if ya got'em...ammo availability
Post by: TAB on March 29, 2009, 03:58:17 PM
Around here it's SA revolvers, .22 pistols , bolt and lever rifles.


Even rifles here are very limited.   If you want one in a common chambering, forget it.  Intrestingly shot guns are every where.  Not the selection there was this time last year, but still out there.

Just don't plan on finding buck shot or slugs.
Title: Re: Smoke'em if ya got'em...ammo availability
Post by: tombogan03884 on March 29, 2009, 09:52:50 PM

Even rifles here are very limited.   If you want one in a common chambering, forget it.  Intrestingly shot guns are every where.  Not the selection there was this time last year, but still out there.

Just don't plan on finding buck shot or slugs.

No trouble finding both here. But then we have a wider selection of Utility rifles available to own than in your area.
Title: Re: Smoke'em if ya got'em...ammo availability
Post by: TAB on March 29, 2009, 10:14:46 PM
just a little bit...  I saw a CMMG striped lower on sale last week for $900.


no I didn't add a extra zero. 

Makes me real happy I got mine for 120 last year.  Never done anything with it, most likly never will.

I really think the only reason why I want an AR is.....


I can't have one.  Shot a bunch of them, its not a rifle that I have a use for or is cheap to feed.  I'd much rather shoot one of my M1s( rather it be garand or carbine, both are alot cheaper to shoot too) 
Title: Re: Smoke'em if ya got'em...ammo availability
Post by: pops1911 on April 04, 2009, 06:45:36 PM
No problem with Shotguns & rifles here. I went into wallyworld the other day & bout all the 22lr they had (both boxes!) & then I noticed a box of .223 - everything else gone & dust on the shelves. Lots of scatergun loads in Dick's Sporting Goods, but little else. Several local shops have a good supply of various types, but they go quick.
Title: Re: Smoke'em if ya got'em...ammo availability
Post by: L.E. Keeney on April 05, 2009, 03:28:01 PM
Wheeling wv Cabelas visit

Only 9mm they had were a few 20 round boxes of cor bon, silvertips and other high tech hollowpoints. Same case with the 45acp..just a few small boxes. However, if you have a 40 cal handgun (I dont), then you would have been set. They had plenty of that flavor.

The only 38 special ammo in the entire store was two 20 round boxes of buffalo bore 158 gr ammo for nearly $25.

Plenty of 45 Gap ammo, plenty of 44 mag, 44 special or 45 colt.

NO..nada, zip in the way of 7.62x39 ammo.

I was able to get a deal on remington 55 GR FMJ 223 ammo..$8.99 per 20. I bought 20 boxes. ;D
Title: Re: Smoke'em if ya got'em...ammo availability
Post by: jzzr83 on April 06, 2009, 11:38:27 AM
Walmart in Shakopee, MN finally had 9mm come in yesterday.  I was told they received 50 boxes of WWB.  A friend picked up 10 boxes for me and it was $20 a box.
Title: Re: Smoke'em if ya got'em...ammo availability
Post by: L.E. Keeney on April 06, 2009, 01:24:44 PM
Walmart in Shakopee, MN finally had 9mm come in yesterday.  I was told they received 50 boxes of WWB.  A friend picked up 10 boxes for me and it was $20 a box.

If you're talking about 9mm ball, then that's high even for right now prices.
Title: Re: Smoke'em if ya got'em...ammo availability
Post by: ericire12 on April 06, 2009, 05:30:20 PM
I found two boxes of .32 acp ball ammo at Wally-World today. They also had about 10 boxes of .25 acp and some random rifle ammo. Thats about it.
Title: Re: Smoke'em if ya got'em...ammo availability
Post by: Ping on April 06, 2009, 05:30:56 PM
Absolutely, we are all getting pinched by the prices of ammo.  ;)
Title: Re: Smoke'em if ya got'em...ammo availability
Post by: jzzr83 on April 07, 2009, 09:20:34 AM
If you're talking about 9mm ball, then that's high even for right now prices.

Not around here.  I picked up two boxes of the same stuff at Gander Mtn three weeks ago for $27 a piece.  How much does the WWB go for around you?  I might need a road trip!
Title: Re: Smoke'em if ya got'em...ammo availability
Post by: Hazcat on April 07, 2009, 11:38:20 AM
If ya had a C&R licence you could get Federal American Eagle 9mm 124 ball for $9.95 for 50 or $190 for 1000 at SOG.
Title: Re: Smoke'em if ya got'em...ammo availability
Post by: L.E. Keeney on April 07, 2009, 04:01:11 PM
Not around here.  I picked up two boxes of the same stuff at Gander Mtn three weeks ago for $27 a piece.  How much does the WWB go for around you?  I might need a road trip!

I paid 12.99 for remington ball at gander mt 2 weeks ago..I bought 5 boxes...charleston west virginia
Title: Re: Smoke'em if ya got'em...ammo availability
Post by: Hottrockin on April 07, 2009, 05:42:13 PM
It's not ammo, but...

Ruger has LCP magazines avalible again!  I'd been waitin' a while on them!

You can check it out at http://shopruger.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/ProductDisplay?catalogId=10051&storeId=10051&categoryId=11969&productId=58259&langId=-1&parent_category_rn=19056&lastCatId=19056 (http://shopruger.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/ProductDisplay?catalogId=10051&storeId=10051&categoryId=11969&productId=58259&langId=-1&parent_category_rn=19056&lastCatId=19056)
Title: Re: Smoke'em if ya got'em...ammo availability
Post by: Timothy on April 07, 2009, 05:59:03 PM
43 bucks for 100/WWB .45 ACP and 34 bucks for 100/9 x 19....Ouch, again bought two boxes of each...

Wally World has been out of everything but .22 for seven weeks....





Title: Re: Smoke'em if ya got'em...ammo availability
Post by: Hazcat on April 07, 2009, 06:13:53 PM
Tim,

Get a C&R license.  It ain't hard and you get discounts as a dealer (even at  Midway and Cabela's).
Title: Re: Smoke'em if ya got'em...ammo availability
Post by: Timothy on April 07, 2009, 06:23:53 PM
Tim,

Get a C&R license.  It ain't hard and you get discounts as a dealer (even at  Midway and Cabela's).

I don't think I can.  MA doesn't allow any mailorder of any kind without an FFL 01.  I'll certainly check though.  Thats the collector and relic license right?  FFL 03???
Title: Re: Smoke'em if ya got'em...ammo availability
Post by: Hazcat on April 07, 2009, 06:30:52 PM
I don't think I can.  MA doesn't allow any mailorder of any kind without an FFL 01.  I'll certainly check though.  Thats the collector and relic license right?  FFL 03???

Yep.  I have some good links to a "how to" if ya want.
Title: Re: Smoke'em if ya got'em...ammo availability
Post by: Pathfinder on April 07, 2009, 06:34:20 PM
Yep.  I have some good links to a "how to" if ya want.

If you can still remember where you left 'em double-nickel boy, send them along - I may just file for one.   ;D
Title: Re: Smoke'em if ya got'em...ammo availability
Post by: Timothy on April 07, 2009, 06:36:28 PM
Yep.  I have some good links to a "how to" if ya want.

Thanks...I may have to contact the state.  That always takes some time but it'd be worth it.  Between me, my daughter, her man-meat and all his buddies, we could save some serious green and I like the older collectibles too...

I called the local LEO and got the following answer...HUH?  

typical, I think I interupted their game of darts...
Title: Re: Smoke'em if ya got'em...ammo availability
Post by: Hazcat on April 07, 2009, 06:37:23 PM
Here ya go, Path.

http://www.familyfriendsfirearms.com/forum/archive/index.php/t-31304.html&s=784f3d645a52df8b0adc9b4baa32f76b&

Scroll down.
Title: Re: Smoke'em if ya got'em...ammo availability
Post by: blackwolfe on April 08, 2009, 11:39:36 AM
My neighbor just got a heck of a deal.  740 rounds of .308 in ammo cans, 200 of it linked, and a couple hundred rounds of 9mm all for $300.  A coworker needed some cash quick.  Oh did I mention, he got the rifle (CTME) and a bunch of magazines also in the deal.
Title: Re: Smoke'em if ya got'em...ammo availability
Post by: tombogan03884 on April 08, 2009, 11:42:45 AM
Heres another link that I got from Haz a couple weeks ago.
http://www.surplusrifle.com/shooting2005/howtogetyourcurionrelicffl03/index.asp

Waiting for the package  ;D
Title: Re: Smoke'em if ya got'em...ammo availability
Post by: MikeBjerum on April 08, 2009, 11:47:24 AM
Heres another link that I got from Haz a couple weeks ago.
http://www.surplusrifle.com/shooting2005/howtogetyourcurionrelicffl03/index.asp

Waiting for the package  ;D

Do it ... You won't be sorry!

Haz walked me through last year, and it was easy.

Haven't taken full advantage of it, but have found a couple advantages that covered the costs already.
Title: Re: Smoke'em if ya got'em...ammo availability
Post by: jzzr83 on April 09, 2009, 12:58:09 PM
43 bucks for 100/WWB .45 ACP and 34 bucks for 100/9 x 19....Ouch, again bought two boxes of each...

Wally World has been out of everything but .22 for seven weeks....



I see you are in MA.  Do they have an extra tax on ammo?  The reason I ask is becuase I just picked up the WWB (100 rds) for $20 in 9mm.  Why would Wally World charge $14/box more over there? (I am in MN)
Title: Re: Smoke'em if ya got'em...ammo availability
Post by: Timothy on April 09, 2009, 01:04:50 PM
I see you are in MA.  Do they have an extra tax on ammo?  The reason I ask is becuase I just picked up the WWB (100 rds) for $20 in 9mm.  Why would Wally World charge $14/box more over there? (I am in MN)

I didn't buy the 9 x 19 at Walmart.  I bought it at my local gun shop who generally charges about 22 bucks for his 9mm, he's gone up considerably in the last few months.  Our local Walmarts, and there are a ton of them, have been cleaned out of ammo for two months.  I have no idea what they will charge when they get any inventory but $20.88 was the price that last I checked.  I shoot .45 ACP mostly, I picked up the 9mm for my daughter.

I still try and shop at the small shops, small business guys when I can.  I have no clue why Walmart can't get inventory unless someone is buying it as soon as it comes and reselling it.
Title: Re: Smoke'em if ya got'em...ammo availability
Post by: Wray Finney on April 09, 2009, 01:33:57 PM
Yesterday I was able to buy some white box 9x19. 100 round box for a little over 21.00 bucks. Can only buy two boxes. They just had three boxes left.
Title: Re: Smoke'em if ya got'em...ammo availability
Post by: blackwolfe on April 09, 2009, 05:44:06 PM
The Wally Worlds I can get to are basically sold out of pistol ammo and most rifle ammo.  I have bought some there recently, but just happened to have good timing.  I bought 9mm at one Wally World and .40 cal at another.  In both cases they had just recieved 1 case a few hours before I got there.  The clerk checked the warehouse for about 6 differant calibers that I asked about and the warehouse showed out of stock.  I think it probably goes out of the warehouse as fast as it comes in.  The Wally ammo I bought was at "normal" prices.
Title: Re: Smoke'em if ya got'em...ammo availability
Post by: ericire12 on April 13, 2009, 08:25:42 PM
I was at a gun shop in Charleston SC the other day and they where slam full of everything ammo that you could think of. Prices came at a premium, but supply was back up..... This was a shop that was bone dry not too long ago.
Title: Re: Smoke'em if ya got'em...ammo availability
Post by: Green Mountain Gringo on April 14, 2009, 04:50:10 PM
Had business out of town today and I visited a Dick's.  They're getting some stock back.  I really didn't need anything (the cupboard is filling up) but bought two boxes of .380. 

 ::)
Title: Re: Smoke'em if ya got'em...ammo availability
Post by: Green Mountain Gringo on April 15, 2009, 01:44:52 PM
Ahhhh, and Cabela's came through today with the final shipment of an order I placed awhile back.  A lot of the stuff was on back order but today the three boxes of 100 count Winchester 9mm showed.

As you can see with the ship dates they're great at getting sent out whatever they have in stock.  The whole order arrived in 6 different shipments.


 
PMC BRONZE LINE HANDGUN AMMO/50 .38 SPCL 132GR FMJ
Item number: 2UG -  217043
 $17.99   1 Standard Express
Shipped-03/09/09
   $17.99 

 
Buffalo Bore per 20 Pistol Ammunition .38 SPCL+P 158LSWCHP
Item number: IK -  215321
 $21.99   1 Standard Express
Shipped-03/09/09
   $21.99 


REMINGTON UMC PISTOL PER 50 AMMO .380AAUTO 95GR MC
Item number: 2UG -  216471
 $18.99   3 Standard Express
Shipped-03/09/09
   $56.97 

 
COR BON SELF DEFENSE HANDGUN AMMO PER 20 .38SPCL+P 110GR JHP
Item number: 2UG -  216733
 $22.99   1 Standard Express
Shipped-03/09/09
   $22.99 
 
Winchester USA Handgun Ammunition per 100 9MM 115GR. FMJ
Item number: 2UG -  216162
 $23.99   3 Standard Express
Shipped-04/09/09
   $71.97 
 
COR BON SELF DEFENSE HANDGUN AMMO PER 20 .357 MAG 125GR JHP
Item number: 2UG -  216733
 $25.99   1 Standard Express
Shipped-03/13/09
   $25.99 


Merchandise Total: $217.90


Title: Re: Smoke'em if ya got'em...ammo availability
Post by: mudman on April 16, 2009, 04:06:57 PM
Academy yesterday nada zip 45 colt cowboy load's 28.00 box.Some 22 not much.
Title: Re: Smoke'em if ya got'em...ammo availability
Post by: L.E. Keeney on April 19, 2009, 11:57:06 AM
Gander Mountain in Charleston wv yesterday (saturday, 4-18)

I went, money in hand to buy a Ruger 380. They got several the day before and sold out within hours. Of course, if I had been able to get my grubby paws on the ruger, there wouldnt have been any ammo. They said they hadnt gotten any 380 in stock for 3 weeks.

Yesterday they had plenty of 40 cal, 44 special, 45 Colt, 44 mag, 38 super and 45 GAP.

Zero 9mm P ammo, zero 45 acp nor 38 special.

Ive been to a lot of stores and its my observation they all have 40 cal..dont know why, since thats such a popular police round.
Title: Re: Smoke'em if ya got'em...ammo availability
Post by: Hottrockin on April 19, 2009, 05:00:56 PM
Good to know stuff...keep'em coming!
Title: Re: Smoke'em if ya got'em...ammo availability
Post by: Hottrockin on April 21, 2009, 05:24:52 PM
Midway USA musta got some junk in...an order I did months ago shipped & arrived today!  wOOt for me!

The site still shows stuff (380ACP; 9mm; 40S&W) as "no backorder".  I think they're tryin' to catch up.

The Hornady Critical Defense is what shipped to me.  Last week it showed a backorder of 5/2 and 5/30.  Got it today.

I do have a complaint though...it shipped UPS and was picked up Monday & received today (Tuesday)---FAST, however due to the 'dangerous goods' Fed-Ex & UPS don't like holdin'on to this stuff and they simple left it at my front door!  WTF!  I'll be honest...I don't live in a nice neighbor hood (shootings, break-in's, drug trafficking, etc.) and they leave a decent size package right on my front porch?  I DON'T LIKE THAT!

Anywho, just wanted to shout out Midway USA is shippin' some stuff.
Title: Re: Smoke'em if ya got'em...ammo availability
Post by: Ping on April 22, 2009, 08:25:00 PM
I live in a decent neighborhood and still would not have ammo shipped to my locale. I was freaking when I got my new Tipton gun vise left on the front porch yesterday.  ???
Title: Re: Smoke'em if ya got'em...ammo availability
Post by: blackwolfe on April 23, 2009, 10:07:42 AM
Had an email waiting for me when I got home from work from Midway telling me they had Ultramax.223 available.  When I clicked on the link it was all gone already.

Midwest Gun Exchange in Mishawauka IN has Lake City 62gr Green Tip available $699/1000 rds, but no internet or phone sales available.  Might have to take a short road trip Saturday if they still have any.

 
Title: Re: Smoke'em if ya got'em...ammo availability
Post by: PegLeg45 on April 23, 2009, 01:18:46 PM
I was looking through an old gun cabinet in another room and lucked up and found 500 rounds of.223 and 250 rounds of .45 ACP that I had forgot I had.....oh happy day.....oh happy day......



 :D  :D  :D  :D



Now if I could find someone selling at a decent price I'd add even more..........

Title: Re: Smoke'em if ya got'em...ammo availability
Post by: blackwolfe on April 24, 2009, 01:27:09 AM
Got an email alert 4-22-09 p.m. from Natchezz shooters supply.  As of this post time they have .223 in stock.  Email also mentioned 22-250, .308, 30.06, .50BMG, 12ga 00 buck.  and some others.  Everything in the email I checked was in stock.
Title: Re: Smoke'em if ya got'em...ammo availability
Post by: Green Mountain Gringo on April 29, 2009, 03:21:05 PM
Walmart today......picked up a couple boxes of 9mm for 11 bucks each and 100 rds of .357 for 44 bucks.

They were wiped out on a lot of other stuff but I'll buy it when I can find it.
Title: Re: Smoke'em if ya got'em...ammo availability
Post by: ericire12 on April 29, 2009, 03:25:44 PM
Very nice
Title: Re: Smoke'em if ya got'em...ammo availability
Post by: True_Texan on May 01, 2009, 04:46:58 AM
I an lucky enough to have a gun dealer (my absolute favorite guy on this planet when it comes to guns) that magically has a stock of all kinds of ammo and guns. I have no idea how he has the stuff he has in stock except for the fact he probably knows more Reps in the business then MB does. He sells all of it a damn good price too considering what ammo prices are at right now.

He literally has a gun shop 30 ft from his house. Not only that, he is located in the middle of nowhere and has people coming to him from 100s of miles around. He does more business per month then all the Wal-marts in the Alamo city combined. He's an older gentleman that has been 'tested' by ATF on several occasions. But he doesn't even begin to give a break to someone who is trying to pull something illegal, no matter what the sale may be. Great guy all around and he keeps me stocked with any and all ammo I have need.

I won't bother giving out his information because frankly, he doesn't need the internet's help in sales. Plus I think he likes it better with actual word of mouth business. Besides that, he doesn't even have a computer to use for his business. All hand written paperwork.

So if you know him, you know him. If you have a friend that knows him, you know him. If you have a friend of a friend that knows him, you know. Basically if you live within a 100 miles of him and you like guns, you know him.
Title: Re: Smoke'em if ya got'em...ammo availability
Post by: Fatman on May 01, 2009, 11:46:53 AM
My local shop finally got his order of .410 3" 000.  Stacks of the stuff, and picked up his last box of .380 Hornady Crit Def.
Title: Re: Smoke'em if ya got'em...ammo availability
Post by: TAB on May 01, 2009, 05:39:39 PM
I an lucky enough to have a gun dealer (my absolute favorite guy on this planet when it comes to guns) that magically has a stock of all kinds of ammo and guns. I have no idea how he has the stuff he has in stock except for the fact he probably knows more Reps in the business then MB does. He sells all of it a damn good price too considering what ammo prices are at right now.

He literally has a gun shop 30 ft from his house. Not only that, he is located in the middle of nowhere and has people coming to him from 100s of miles around. He does more business per month then all the Wal-marts in the Alamo city combined. He's an older gentleman that has been 'tested' by ATF on several occasions. But he doesn't even begin to give a break to someone who is trying to pull something illegal, no matter what the sale may be. Great guy all around and he keeps me stocked with any and all ammo I have need.

I won't bother giving out his information because frankly, he doesn't need the internet's help in sales. Plus I think he likes it better with actual word of mouth business. Besides that, he doesn't even have a computer to use for his business. All hand written paperwork.

So if you know him, you know him. If you have a friend that knows him, you know him. If you have a friend of a friend that knows him, you know. Basically if you live within a 100 miles of him and you like guns, you know him.


those shops are hard to find.  there use to be one here,but the owner sold out after he had a heart attack.  The shop went to shit there after, 6 months latter the ATF and the CA DOJ raided it and the new owner is not getting out any time soon.  Long story short, in 6 months he sold over a 1000 guns under the table to anyone that had cash.  One of them just happend to come up in a crime and was traced back to him.
Title: Re: Smoke'em if ya got'em...ammo availability
Post by: tfr270 on May 01, 2009, 07:52:25 PM
For those of us in California Bay Area Marin Firearms in Novato has recieved a huge shipment of .40, .357, .38 and has full shelves. I went there today and bought some .357 and .38. I should have bought the .40 cal HK compact they put in my hand and all of the .40 cal on the shelves...but I don't have the money for that purchase! The .38 and .357 I bought was around $28 per box of 50.

Here's a story from a good source that should chill us to the bone...

The military has until July to stock up on ammunition. The majority of manufacturing is going to that right now. Between now and then the administration is going to try and pass all those ammunition laws they have written, making it harder for us to load, buy, and own ammo.

Also, Wall Mart, at least here in Sonoma County, and probably elsewhere, gets their daily shipment of ammunition around 10pm. They are open until eleven. The first ones in line are the local Mexican gang bangers who buy all the hangun ammo before it gets on the shelves. Yeah, heresay, but from a good source who is a good man.
Title: Re: Smoke'em if ya got'em...ammo availability
Post by: fightingquaker13 on May 02, 2009, 11:04:12 PM
Also, Wall Mart, at least here in Sonoma County, and probably elsewhere, gets their daily shipment of ammunition around 10pm. They are open until eleven. The first ones in line are the local Mexican gang bangers who buy all the hangun ammo before it gets on the shelves. Yeah, heresay, but from a good source who is a good man.

Actually, I believe this. While the stories about full auto weapons coming into Mexico from the US are complete BS., the same is not true of ammo. It is illegal to own anything but .22 and shotgun shells with bird shot in the country without a permit, and the penalties are very steep. I used to  hunt in South Texas a few miles north of Laredo, and before we would drive down to Nueva Laredo for .50% beers and .75% margaheitas, we would scour who ever's car we were driving for ANY stray ammo, as a single 30-06 round was good for years in a Mexican prison. The Federales were being real bastards about it as the country was pissed off about the fact that a Mexican national had been executed without being informed of his right to contact his embassy, as is required by treaty. (No sympathy for the man, but another example of how law enforcement needs to do things right when dealing with stuff like the death penalty to avoid potential down range consequences). Anyway, if you thik $40 is expensive for a box of 9mm, try buying it on the black market inTijijuana..... There is no doubt that the drug gangs are probably driving up the price in border areas since if they can smuggle 800 pounds of pot in, they can sure smuggle 800 pounds of ammo out.
FQ13 who is wondering if anyone else thinks that the collateral damage in the drug war is outweighing the benefits
Title: Re: Smoke'em if ya got'em...ammo availability
Post by: mosbear on May 04, 2009, 04:02:52 PM
Got lucky past Saturday!
My dear wife went shopping and called me from the Walmart before coming home. Just out of curiosity I've asked her to check the Sporting Goods department for the ammo. They had bare shelves for month. To my surprise she called me back and said they have 9 mm in stock. I told her to by all of it. She didn't even asked me why, just said OK. She called back within a minute or so and told me that the limit was set at six boxes. Better then nothing. From now on she's chief ammo buyer in our family. ;D
Title: Re: Smoke'em if ya got'em...ammo availability
Post by: Hottrockin on May 04, 2009, 06:29:51 PM
Nice find!

Keep'em comin' gang!
Title: Re: Smoke'em if ya got'em...ammo availability
Post by: Ping on May 06, 2009, 09:58:14 PM
Just happened to be standing at the gun shop/range when a white truck pulled up. Ammo delivery. Was able to pick up several boxes of Federal Personal Defense rounds in .40 Smith and Wesson. Been a good day.
Title: Re: Smoke'em if ya got'em...ammo availability
Post by: Gossamer on May 06, 2009, 10:37:01 PM
I went to the local Meijer to get my wife a Mother's Day present today and then wandered through the sporting goods isle. I got the last box of Win .22LR 500 round box for $9.99. Strangly they had lots of rifle ammo and shotgun slugs but NO centerfire handgun ammo. Lots of 16 gauge slugs for $3.49 a box.

There is still ammo out there it is just the odd stuff.
Title: Re: Smoke'em if ya got'em...ammo availability
Post by: blackwolfe on May 09, 2009, 12:31:27 PM
My local Meijer's has 12 ga. 2 3/4 rifled slugs on sale thru May 30 for $2.99 / box of 5.  They have cases and cases of the stuff.  They have had this since last fall aparently someone mistakenly ordered too much.  A Meijer employee said they are going to stop carring ammo.

I regularly pass 3 Wally Worlds and stop in frequently just to check about ammo.  It is hit or miss on pistol ammo  I've gotten lucky a few times and have picked up some 9mm and some .40 cal to last a little while.  Managed to get 1 100pack of .38 and a  50 box of .32.  Keep getting there a little to late for .45 ACP, but they have been getting some in.  They have a 6 box limit.  Have never found any .380 at WW.  Haven't seen much in .223 or .308, but haven't really been looking for it.
The Wally World people have told me that none of the popular calibers are shown as being in stock at the warehouse, it just shows up a case here and there, and sometimes just a box.  The cases seldom get stocked as they open the cases and it is being bought immediately before they can even put it on the shelf.
Title: Re: Smoke'em if ya got'em...ammo availability
Post by: Timothy on May 09, 2009, 12:41:13 PM
For the rest of the forum, Meijers is the originator of the so called "Super Store" in MI and IN. 

Freddie Meijer invented the department store, sporting goods, lumber yard, grocery store, gas station and tire store "all under one roof" concept in the late sixties.  It's the one place in MI for all of your household and outdoor needs....now they have liquor, shoestores, hair salons, banks, florists, coffee houses and snack bars....the whole nine and then some...

God I miss Michigan!

I know Dougs wife from high school...
Title: Re: Smoke'em if ya got'em...ammo availability
Post by: blackwolfe on May 09, 2009, 01:01:28 PM
Meijers does a lot for the community also.  They are Grand Rapids based and do a lot to support both the colleges in west Michigan my daughters go to.

Several years back I went to Meijer early on Thanksgiving day for a Christmas shopping special that was only for a few hours.  I was in the sporting goods section when a gentleman aked if he could hep, but I was just looking.  Another employee appeared and the first gentleman said hello to him by name and they chatted briefly and the first genmtleman thanked the second employee for doing a good job, working Thanksgiving, and wished him a Happy Thanksgiving.  The first gentleman was one of the Meijers.  That always impressed me that he was thoughtful enough to be at one of their stores Thanksgiving day and positively interacting with customers and employees when he could just of easily been at  a family gathering.  He didn't just run down to the nearest store to do this either, the store i saw him at was 90 miles from Grand Rapids.  The second employee had a lot of praises for the Meijer that was at the store that day and the Meijers as a whole.
Title: Re: Smoke'em if ya got'em...ammo availability
Post by: ericire12 on May 09, 2009, 01:07:55 PM
I went to the local Meijer to get my wife a Mother's Day present today and then wandered through the sporting goods isle. I got the last box of Win .22LR 500 round box for $9.99. Strangly they had lots of rifle ammo and shotgun slugs but NO centerfire handgun ammo. Lots of 16 gauge slugs for $3.49 a box.

There is still ammo out there it is just the odd stuff.

Buy your hunting ammo early this year, boys and girls!
Title: Re: Smoke'em if ya got'em...ammo availability
Post by: Timothy on May 09, 2009, 01:10:13 PM
That was probably Doug, he would be about 51-54 years and the husband of my friend Starr.  They live in the GR area still and were the Co-Chairs of the Childrens Network and quite philanthropic.  Starr was a good kid, absolutely gorgeous!

Heavy Republican donators as well...... ;D ;D

That's what I miss about the midwest, people being people, communities that help each other...
Title: Re: Smoke'em if ya got'em...ammo availability
Post by: MikeBjerum on May 14, 2009, 10:28:18 AM
I got 5,000 large pistol primers and 8 lbs of tightgroup yesterday!

Yippie!

Now to the loading bench to make .45 acp.

Still have my name on numerous lists for stuff, but it ain't easy to snag.
Title: Re: Smoke'em if ya got'em...ammo availability
Post by: Hottrockin on May 14, 2009, 07:27:16 PM
Way to go!  Congrats on the find!

They got anymore?

 ::)
Title: Re: Smoke'em if ya got'em...ammo availability
Post by: MikeBjerum on May 14, 2009, 08:24:29 PM
Way to go!  Congrats on the find!

They got anymore?

 ::)

No  :'(  If they had they would be in my grubby paws on the way to friends.  I ordered five thousand each of lg and small pistol and lg and small rifle, and this is all that has come in two months. 

They have a few one pounders of powder, but this was the last eight pounder.
Title: Re: Smoke'em if ya got'em...ammo availability
Post by: PegLeg45 on May 24, 2009, 05:25:17 PM
Local wally world just got a bunch of .22lr Federal in the 550 round boxes.
Priced at $13.47 per box which is down about $2 per box from three months ago.
Six box maximum purchase.


And, yes....I loaded up.


 8)
Title: Re: Smoke'em if ya got'em...ammo availability
Post by: Hottrockin on May 24, 2009, 05:46:41 PM
 :D

WTG!
Title: Re: Smoke'em if ya got'em...ammo availability
Post by: blackwolfe on May 25, 2009, 10:28:36 PM
Seems to be more ammo available lately at WW.  Happened to stop by one today and they had Blazer brass  9mm $9.47/50 and .40 cal $12.97/50.  They also had WWB .357 and .44 mag available.  Still no .380 or .45 auto.
Title: Re: Smoke'em if ya got'em...ammo availability
Post by: PegLeg45 on May 26, 2009, 04:46:10 PM
Forgot to mention in my post above that Wallace world had plenty of the 22lr, but they were bare of most everything else.
2 boxes of WWB .44mag for $34 per box.
Piles of .410 shotgun and 12ga. shotgun.
A few boxes of .270 and 8mm rifle ammo.

That was about it.

Title: Re: Smoke'em if ya got'em...ammo availability
Post by: Hottrockin on May 26, 2009, 05:12:01 PM
Picked up 2 boxes (limit) 9MM (Magtech 115gr) ball from local shop today @ $ 16.00/50 round box.  I didn't think that was too bad.
Title: Re: Smoke'em if ya got'em...ammo availability
Post by: Rastus on May 30, 2009, 08:04:13 PM
Tulsa's Academy Sports on 41st has a few 500 round boxes of Federal XM193.  $250/500 was the price.
Title: Re: Smoke'em if ya got'em...ammo availability
Post by: Ping on May 31, 2009, 04:02:49 PM
Nice price. Picked up 4 boxes of .40 S&W Winchester 50 rd. boxes yesterday for $19 a box. They had 8 boxes. Wish I had the extra money to buy all 8.
Title: Re: Smoke'em if ya got'em...ammo availability
Post by: ericire12 on June 05, 2009, 12:04:27 PM
I scored 400 rounds of 9mm ammo (Winchester White Box) at Wal-Mart yesterday. They had eight 100rd boxes for $20 each, so I picked up 4 boxes. They also had two or three boxes each of .40 and .45 acp, some random rifle rounds, as well as a few boxes of high end .22 lr

They have now also posted a sign limiting all purchases to 6 boxes.

Title: Re: Smoke'em if ya got'em...ammo availability
Post by: Hottrockin on June 05, 2009, 05:33:48 PM
Way to go!
Title: Re: Smoke'em if ya got'em...ammo availability
Post by: Kid Shelleen on June 07, 2009, 10:55:35 PM
I scored 400 rounds of 9mm ammo (Winchester White Box) at Wal-Mart yesterday. They had eight 100rd boxes for $20 each, so I picked up 4 boxes. They also had two or three boxes each of .40 and .45 acp, some random rifle rounds, as well as a few boxes of high end .22 lr

They have now also posted a sign limiting all purchases to 6 boxes.

Awesome catch......Our Wal Marts have been out of everything for a few months. Same goes for every gun shop in town. Any updates on internet ammo from anyone? I could use most hand gun calibers. I have plenty of 223 and 270...so OK in the rifle dept.


Title: Re: Smoke'em if ya got'em...ammo availability
Post by: ericire12 on June 08, 2009, 08:20:04 AM
Awesome catch......Our Wal Marts have been out of everything for a few months. Same goes for every gun shop in town. Any updates on internet ammo from anyone? I could use most hand gun calibers. I have plenty of 223 and 270...so OK in the rifle dept.

All Wal-Mart stores are still getting regular weekly ammo deliveries..... The problem is that it is gone before it hits their shelves. They are having people line up for it when it arrives and they are buying them out immediately. Wal-Mart has not increased the size of their orders, so finding anything after time of delivery is a rarity. Many stores are now putting quantity restrictions in place so more customers can make a purchase, but we all know that is a futile attempt. I would think that the powers that be at one of the worlds largest retailers would have a little more pull and would be able to get larger shipments...... guess not. 





*As a side note.... When I bought that ammo the other day, the person behind the counter had just got done giving a disgruntled explanation to a customer as to why they are always out of ammo.... "We cant stop people from buying more then they need", she said...... She then turned to me and when I told her I wanted 4 boxes, she rolled her eyes and shook her head in frustration. I paid for my ammo and thanked her graciously, then walked away smiling and laughing most of the way out of the store.
Title: Re: Smoke'em if ya got'em...ammo availability
Post by: tombogan03884 on June 08, 2009, 12:09:56 PM
I was at one of the larger gun stores in the State Sat. (Riley's gunshop, Hooksett NH ) They plenty of most types of ammo at reasonable prices, 9mm PMC $13.30/ 50 WWB $26/ 100 Federal 00 Buck $3.30/5, but NO 38 no .357 mag, and NO .380 They had  a dozen AR's DPMS, Olympic, Stag, $900 up to RKWS (I think those were the initials ) $2400 saw no Ruger AR's but did not look that close. 1/2 dozen AK's of various types $650+ 1 SKS $450 and 1 Garand $1300
Title: Re: Smoke'em if ya got'em...ammo availability
Post by: Kid Shelleen on June 08, 2009, 02:49:46 PM
All Wal-Mart stores are still getting regular weekly ammo deliveries..... The problem is that it is gone before it hits their shelves. They are having people line up for it when it arrives and they are buying them out immediately. Wal-Mart has not increased the size of their orders, so finding anything after time of delivery is a rarity. Many stores are now putting quantity restrictions in place so more customers can make a purchase, but we all know that is a futile attempt. I would think that the powers that be at one of the worlds largest retailers would have a little more pull and would be able to get larger shipments...... guess not. 

Thanks for the great info. I'll talk to the sporting goods guy at my local Wally World and ask when they get their shipments.
I have plenty of personal defense ammo but need some range ammo to keep sharp.

Thanks again !!!



*As a side note.... When I bought that ammo the other day, the person behind the counter had just got done giving a disgruntled explanation to a customer as to why they are always out of ammo.... "We cant stop people from buying more then they need", she said...... She then turned to me and when I told her I wanted 4 boxes, she rolled her eyes and shook her head in frustration. I paid for my ammo and thanked her graciously, then walked away smiling and laughing most of the way out of the store.
Title: Re: Smoke'em if ya got'em...ammo availability
Post by: tombogan03884 on June 08, 2009, 04:03:40 PM
Who says how much a person needs ?  Need is not relevant, they are in business to sell what consumers WANT.
Title: Re: Smoke'em if ya got'em...ammo availability
Post by: blackwolfe on June 09, 2009, 01:14:17 PM
Just got an Email alert from Natchez shooters supply.  .223, .308, 7.62x39, and others available.  Some on sale

http://www.natchezss.com/
Title: Re: Smoke'em if ya got'em...ammo availability
Post by: Hottrockin on June 09, 2009, 05:37:52 PM
Snazzy!  Keep up the grrreat work guys 'n' gals!
Title: Re: Smoke'em if ya got'em...ammo availability
Post by: ericire12 on June 09, 2009, 07:16:30 PM
HOLY CRAP!

I just went to Wal-Mart again tonight and they were overflowing! Besides the aforementioned rifle and .22 ammo, they also had approx 12 boxes of 9mm (Thats 1200 rds!), four or five boxes of .40, and even a box of .357 -- All Winchester White Box. I actually had to look twice because I did not believe my eyes. I did not buy, because I really dont need any at this time, but WOW!

I have said before that Wal-Mart is going to be the tell tale sign of when this drought is over....... When you no longer have trouble finding ammo at Wal-Mart, you wont have trouble finding ammo anywhere else and you will know that it is ok to start shooting up your supply! Maybe this is a sign, atleast locally, that things are getting better.
Title: Re: Smoke'em if ya got'em...ammo availability
Post by: tommy tornado on June 11, 2009, 03:42:51 PM
Went to the local Academy for .22 LR and was amazed at the price.  Box of 525 Remingtons is now $35 and 50 rounds of Federal was $9 a box!  :o I was shocked.
Title: Re: Smoke'em if ya got'em...ammo availability
Post by: PegLeg45 on June 11, 2009, 08:00:05 PM
Ol' Wally ain't got crap in my neck o' the woods.         >:(  >:(         :'(
Title: Re: Smoke'em if ya got'em...ammo availability
Post by: Kid Shelleen on June 11, 2009, 11:36:05 PM
Ol' Wally ain't got crap in my neck o' the woods.         >:(  >:(         :'(
Same here PegLeg our Wally Worlds are still empty too.
Title: Re: Smoke'em if ya got'em...ammo availability
Post by: shooter32 on June 12, 2009, 09:07:52 AM
Same here PegLeg our Wally Worlds are still empty too.

Same here Kid, the only thing they have is 12 & 20 ga. a couple of cases of each.
Title: Re: Smoke'em if ya got'em...ammo availability
Post by: Ichiban on June 12, 2009, 01:50:50 PM
The local WW's have lots of shotgun shells and the .223 is staying on the shelves.  The only pistol ammo I've seen recently is .32acp.  I guess that is a start.

Sports Authority had some .45acp WWB hollowpoints but they didn't last long.
Title: Re: Smoke'em if ya got'em...ammo availability
Post by: PegLeg45 on June 14, 2009, 11:59:59 AM
Ol' Wally ain't got crap in my neck o' the woods.         >:(  >:(         :'(

Same here Kid, the only thing they have is 12 & 20 ga. a couple of cases of each.

Went in to "Wally's everything under the sun Emporium" today and lo and behold...... a stack of Federal .40 S&W 180gr FMJ........ only had cash for three boxes, and doubt they'll have it tomorrow, but I got the three.


***edit***
Forgot to put the price....$12.47 per box.


Title: Re: Smoke'em if ya got'em...ammo availability
Post by: ericire12 on June 14, 2009, 12:10:00 PM
Another return trip to that same Wally World showed that they sold all their .40 and 9mm supply and had only 3 boxes of .357
Title: Re: Smoke'em if ya got'em...ammo availability
Post by: david86440 on June 16, 2009, 05:14:50 PM
I just got back to California yesterday from a 7200 mile trip around the country and and can tell you the demand for ammo is far from over.

I stopped at Wally Worlds from WY to  Maine and the one common thing that I ran into were customers looking at empty slots on the shelves where the .380, 9mm, .40, and .45 should have been.

Cody, WY did have 2 boxes of 9mm and 2 boxes of .45. I found 2 boxes of .380 in Scarborough, ME, one store someplace in Ohio had 8 boxes of 100 round WWB .45 which was the most I saw anywhere. Newton, NE had one box of 9mm.

I did see many stores with a few boxes of .38 and .357 on the shelf.

They all say they are getting regular deliveries but it disappears as fast as it goes on the shelf and all the Wally Worlds that I checked had 6 box limits in effect.

Glad to be home...........



Title: Re: Smoke'em if ya got'em...ammo availability
Post by: Green Mountain Gringo on June 16, 2009, 08:45:17 PM
I just got back to California yesterday from a 7200 mile trip around the country and and can tell you the demand for ammo is far from over.

I stopped at Wally Worlds from WY to  Maine and the one common thing that I ran into were customers looking at empty slots on the shelves where the .380, 9mm, .40, and .45 should have been.

Cody, WY did have 2 boxes of 9mm and 2 boxes of .45. I found 2 boxes of .380 in Scarborough, ME, one store someplace in Ohio had 8 boxes of 100 round WWB .45 which was the most I saw anywhere. Newton, NE had one box of 9mm.

I did see many stores with a few boxes of .38 and .357 on the shelf.

They all say they are getting regular deliveries but it disappears as fast as it goes on the shelf and all the Wally Worlds that I checked had 6 box limits in effect.

Glad to be home...........





Dude, you are like, a POWER AMMO SHOPPER!    (That musta been Cabella's in Maine).  Did you try the Kittery Trading Post?  AWESOME STORE!
Title: Re: Smoke'em if ya got'em...ammo availability
Post by: david86440 on June 16, 2009, 09:08:30 PM
I stopped at Cabela's in Rapid City, SD, Scarborough, ME, Sidney, NE and Reno, NV. They had defensive ammo available but I haven't had a problem getting that stuff mail order from them with fairly short wait times so I didn't buy any as I have a pretty good supply on hand.

I was more interested in plinking ammo. I managed to pick up a little over a 1000 rounds in .380, 9 mm and .45 from the various Walmarts that I stopped at. I'll have to take another trip when I use this up.

I did think about Kittery Trading Post and was going to stop there on the way out of Maine but for some reason I forgot. I have shopped there in the past.


Title: Re: Smoke'em if ya got'em...ammo availability
Post by: tombogan03884 on June 16, 2009, 09:11:02 PM
I stopped at Cabela's in Rapid City, SD, Scarborough, ME, Sidney, NE and Reno, NV. They had defensive ammo available but I haven't had a problem getting that stuff mail order from them with fairly short wait times so I didn't buy any as I have a pretty good supply on hand.

I was more interested in plinking ammo. I managed to pick up a little over a 1000 rounds in .380, 9 mm and .45 from the various Walmarts that I stopped at. I'll have to take another trip when I use this up.

I did think about Kittery Trading Post and was going to stop there on the way out of Maine but for some reason I forgot. I have shopped there in the past.


You DO get around don't you.  ;D
Title: Re: Smoke'em if ya got'em...ammo availability
Post by: david86440 on June 16, 2009, 09:24:19 PM
You DO get around don't you.  ;D

I forgot to mention my stop in Portsmouth to stock up on beer........ no deposit or sales tax!
Title: Re: Smoke'em if ya got'em...ammo availability
Post by: tombogan03884 on June 16, 2009, 09:27:47 PM
I forgot to mention my stop in Portsmouth to stock up on beer........ no deposit or sales tax!

 I know Portsmouth very well, it's where I enlisted in the Marines in 77, My Grandmothers family had been in that town since the 1800's, I lived in Hampton and Exeter for about 6 years.
Title: Re: Smoke'em if ya got'em...ammo availability
Post by: david86440 on June 16, 2009, 09:31:55 PM
I know Portsmouth very well, it's where I enlisted in the Marines in 77, My Grandmothers family had been in that town since the 1800's, I lived in Hampton and Exeter for about 6 years.

I remember when we used to drive to Newington just to go to Taco Bell as there weren't any in Maine at the time. How things/times change!

Title: Re: Smoke'em if ya got'em...ammo availability
Post by: tombogan03884 on June 16, 2009, 09:38:23 PM
I remember when we used to drive to Newington just to go to Taco Bell as there weren't any in Maine at the time. How things/times change!



WOW, My ex used to like to do that, from Rochester NH, We may have been in line together  ;D, Thing that baffled ME was, She was FROM Ca. (why I ended up there) She KNEW what REAL Mexican food was and she STILL ate that crap, even when we got out to Ca.
How can Taco Bell POSSIBLY stay in business out there ?
Title: Re: Smoke'em if ya got'em...ammo availability
Post by: tommy tornado on June 16, 2009, 10:43:01 PM
Local Gander Mountain had .45 ACP at $41 for a box of 50.  I passed on it.
Title: Re: Smoke'em if ya got'em...ammo availability
Post by: david86440 on June 16, 2009, 11:22:14 PM
Cody, WY Walmart  5/30/09

.45ACP (50) Blazer Brass FMJ $14.97 (2 boxes)

9mm (50) Blazer Brass FMJ $8.97 (2 boxes)


Scarborough, ME Walmart 6/7/09

 .380ACP (100) WWB $31.97 (2 boxes)


York, NE Walmart 6/12/09

.45ACP (100) WWB $31.97 (4 boxes)


Lexington, NE Walmart 6/13/09

.380ACP (50) Remington 95 gr L380AP $16.97, (2 boxes)

9mm (100) Remington 115 gr JHP $24.97 (1 box)


Old Orchid beach, ME (saw on Craigslist add)

picked up 2 more boxes of .380ACP and a new LCP finger grip magazine for undisclosed amount.


Title: Re: Smoke'em if ya got'em...ammo availability
Post by: Timothy on June 17, 2009, 07:22:20 AM
I just shot everything I had last night except for my JHP carry ammo.  Now the hunt begins, the shelves around here are a bit bare, might be heading north, or south, or southwest.....Riley's maybe, good Fathers Day trip! :)
Title: Re: Smoke'em if ya got'em...ammo availability
Post by: Texas_Bryan on June 18, 2009, 02:29:37 PM
Wally World in north Round Rock, TX had .22 LR 550 count Federal box for $13, white box 9mm, .40, 44 magnum, and .38 special.  Also had boxes of Winchester 15 count hollow point 12 gauge slugs for $8, cheapest I've ever seen.  They got at least 6 boxes of every thing, as of noon today.  No .45 ACP, never f$@%ing do!!! ???
Title: Re: Smoke'em if ya got'em...ammo availability
Post by: Hottrockin on June 18, 2009, 05:35:11 PM
Midway USA is now showing lotsa stuff as "Out of Stock, Backorder OK" vs. what its been which was "Out of Stock, No Backorder".  380ACP, 9MM, 40 S&W, 45 ACP!  Sorry, I didn't check you AR guys stuff out.

At least you can get your name on the waiting list!  And when they get it, you'll get it!

http://www.midwayusa.com/ (http://www.midwayusa.com/)
Title: Re: Smoke'em if ya got'em...ammo availability
Post by: tommy tornado on June 18, 2009, 10:29:04 PM
Sadly primers are still "Out of Stock, No Backorder".  :'(
Title: Re: Smoke'em if ya got'em...ammo availability
Post by: philw on June 18, 2009, 10:36:08 PM
Don't know what your issue is  :P 
(http://gallery.mac.com/philw/100050/DSCF9649/web.jpg)


hehe   although I did pay Toooo much   that is about $380 bucks worth  that I have just about  shot up over the last 2 weeks 

I NEED TO RELOAD
Title: Re: Smoke'em if ya got'em...ammo availability
Post by: david86440 on June 20, 2009, 12:04:33 AM
Don't know what your issue is  :P  
(http://gallery.mac.com/philw/100050/DSCF9649/web.jpg)


hehe   although I did pay Toooo much   that is about $380 bucks worth  that I have just about  shot up over the last 2 weeks  

I NEED TO RELOAD

I think the issue is .380, 9mm, .40 and .45ACP. I noticed you bought 2 boxes of 9mm. How many did they have available?

I went to an indoor range today and thought it was great being the only shooter there. I do feel bad not being able to replace what I shoot so I had to limit myself to 100 rounds.
Title: Re: Smoke'em if ya got'em...ammo availability
Post by: philw on June 20, 2009, 09:27:19 AM
I think the issue is .380, 9mm, .40 and .45ACP. I noticed you bought 2 boxes of 9mm. How many did they have available?

I went to an indoor range today and thought it was great being the only shooter there. I do feel bad not being able to replace what I shoot so I had to limit myself to 100 rounds.

quite a few mate

I just did not have the $$$  to get more 

and I had a few boxed at home all ready
Title: Re: Smoke'em if ya got'em...ammo availability
Post by: david86440 on June 20, 2009, 01:03:20 PM
quite a few mate

I just did not have the $$$  to get more 

and I had a few boxed at home all ready

This is what I was able to purchase for $349.98 tax included. It did cost me over $975 in gas to find it.
Title: Re: Smoke'em if ya got'em...ammo availability
Post by: tt11758 on June 20, 2009, 01:07:55 PM
2 weeks ago I was able to pick up 300 rounds of .40 caliber and 200 rounds of 9mm at Wally World.  .40 was $14.98 for a box of 50, 9 mm was $9.85 for the same  size box.

The gun store half a mile down the road from Wally World had a good supply of .40 and 9 mm, but they were selling them for about $10 a box higher than Wally World for the same loads.

Came close to having a 1911 follow me home, but since nobody around here has been able to get .45 acp for a while, nor have any idea when they will be able to, I elected to not spend $700 for a paperweight.
Title: ~
Post by: Timothy on June 20, 2009, 01:12:20 PM
Wooooo, woooooo!!!!!

I managed to find 50 rounds of Remington .45 ball at the Wally World!

Wow, I've got exactly 50 rounds hoarded up for practice and another 200 of hollowpoints for defending my honor! ;D
Title: Re: Smoke'em if ya got'em...ammo availability
Post by: Badgersmilk on June 20, 2009, 01:22:08 PM
"I've got exactly 50 rounds hoarded up"!!!  No wonder we cant find any amunition anywhere!  Tim has it all!!!!    ;D ;D ;D

You dont need all fifty do you?  Can we have some?
Title: Re: Smoke'em if ya got'em...ammo availability
Post by: billt on June 20, 2009, 03:09:22 PM
(http://img191.imageshack.us/img191/7808/magtech3081.jpg)

(http://img191.imageshack.us/img191/9694/magtech3082.jpg)

I went to Cabela's along with all of the Saturday afternoon cattle, and they had a ton of Magtech .308 Ball for $35.99 a box of 50. That comes to $14.40 for a box of 20. Not too bad. You can see it has annealed cases, and is really clean. It also has green lacquer sealed primers. The cheapest .308 they had next in line was Remington UMC Green Box and that was $21.00 for a 20 count box. With Remington brass running $40.00 a hundred, and cheap FMJ .30 cal. bullets going for around $20.00 a hundred, by the time you figure in powder at $20.00 a pound and primers at their new "adjusted" price, it's doubtful you could load it as cheap. I'm going to try it in my new M-1A SOCOM and see how it shoots. If it's decent I'll grab some more.   Bill T.
Title: Re: Smoke'em if ya got'em...ammo availability
Post by: Badgersmilk on June 20, 2009, 05:03:01 PM
As a rule.  Military firearms are "over gased" so they will eject more reliably.  Often results in harsh handling of empty cases.

If you DO decide to hand load.  It's pretty well agreed that Reminton brass is the bottom of the barrel junk.  Winchester brass is MUCH better, and typically the same price.  Of course there are more expensive brands, but with a semi-auto you wont be using much, or any of the brass twice.  Very few semi-auto's leave brass looking very good.  Bad dents or scrape marks from magazine lips & bottom edges of load ramps, dents from extractors, ejectors, clips and magazines cutting into cases...  The stuff usually isnt very pretty once you learn what to look for.

Reloading, or hand loading is primarily for bolt guns or single shots.  There are exceptions of course!

Any AK I've seen will throw cases 15' and more, and nearly crush brass cases all the way in!  99% of military ammo in the world is steel cased, and not reloadable anyway.  But the "over gasing" sure doesnt hurt semi-auto, or full auto reliability!

Title: Re: Smoke'em if ya got'em...ammo availability
Post by: billt on June 20, 2009, 05:45:05 PM
It's pretty well agreed that Reminton brass is the bottom of the barrel junk.  Winchester brass is MUCH better, and typically the same price.

I've found just the opposite to be true. One of the main reasons I switched to Remington was I got sick and tired of having to throw out anywhere from 4 to 6 cases out of each bag of Winchester brass because they were so badly damaged from rough handling you couldn't even get an expander ball through them. 6% scrap for new brass is ridiculous. With Remington I get just as many reloads, plus I usually wind up with 2 or 3 extra pieces per bag. Remington is also far more available than Winchester. At least out here it is.  Bill T.
Title: Re: Smoke'em if ya got'em...ammo availability
Post by: Texas_Bryan on June 20, 2009, 06:26:31 PM
I just like Winchesters loaded ammo, by far the best I've used.  For practice its all the same to me, for the most part as long as it shoots.  I love that sexy nickel plated brass Winchester uses for their hunting and defense ammo.
Title: Re: Smoke'em if ya got'em...ammo availability
Post by: tombogan03884 on June 20, 2009, 06:33:45 PM
As a rule.  Military firearms are "over gased" so they will eject more reliably.  Often results in harsh handling of empty cases.

If you DO decide to hand load.  It's pretty well agreed that Reminton brass is the bottom of the barrel junk.  Winchester brass is MUCH better, and typically the same price.  Of course there are more expensive brands, but with a semi-auto you wont be using much, or any of the brass twice.  Very few semi-auto's leave brass looking very good.  Bad dents or scrape marks from magazine lips & bottom edges of load ramps, dents from extractors, ejectors, clips and magazines cutting into cases... The stuff usually isnt very pretty once you learn what to look for.

Reloading, or hand loading is primarily for bolt guns or single shots.  There are exceptions of course!

Any AK I've seen will throw cases 15' and more, and nearly crush brass cases all the way in! 99% of military ammo in the world is steel cased, and not reloadable anyway.  But the "over gasing" sure doesnt hurt semi-auto, or full auto reliability!



The only Semi auto I ever saw that was "Rough on brass", was the G 3's fluted chamber. As for 99% of military ammo being steel, the only steel cased ammo I have ever encountered was East European/Chinese.
Title: Re: Smoke'em if ya got'em...ammo availability
Post by: billt on June 20, 2009, 07:05:11 PM
No American Military Ammunition is steel. The only exception might have been during WW II. Even then if I recall we made out pennies out of steel so our ammo could be brass and copper. The eastern bloc countries use steel far more than NATO does.  Bill T.
Title: Re: Smoke'em if ya got'em...ammo availability
Post by: Texas_Bryan on June 20, 2009, 07:25:08 PM
No American Military Ammunition is steel. The only exception might have been during WW II. Even then if I recall we made out pennies out of steel so our ammo could be brass and copper. The eastern bloc countries use steel far more than NATO does.  Bill T.

I believe he's implying that cheapest most widely available ammo around the whole world, not just here is steel.  Specialy for what Badger shoots, his argument makes sense, if you were humping it through burnt out Europe or Asia.  Here that's debatable.  I've never seen brass cased 7.69, but then again I've never looked, but I'd bet money that Badgers 99% is right on the money for that round.  Same for any commie round, and I'd bet that an over whelming majority of military ammo around the world is in commie calibers.  BTW, I've got some of those pennies, 1943 steel, very cool. 
Title: Re: Smoke'em if ya got'em...ammo availability
Post by: david86440 on June 20, 2009, 07:42:23 PM
I believe he's implying that cheapest most widely available ammo around the whole world, not just here is steel.  Specialy for what Badger shoots, his argument makes sense, if you were humping it through burnt out Europe or Asia.  Here that's debatable.  I've never seen brass cased 7.69, but then again I've never looked, but I'd bet money that Badgers 99% is right on the money for that round.  Same for any commie round, and I'd bet that an over whelming majority of military ammo around the world is in commie calibers.  BTW, I've got some of those pennies, 1943 steel, very cool.  

I do have a box of brass cased 7.62X39
Title: Re: Smoke'em if ya got'em...ammo availability
Post by: Badgersmilk on June 20, 2009, 08:09:27 PM
I dont think you'll see a whole lot of American ammo being used outside this country.  I've seen a good bit of .308 in steel cases.  And the only 7.62 x 39 I personally have seen in brass is the Winchester stuff I buy to reload.  If your seeing a lot of bent up cases from handling it may well be happening after it leaves the factory.  The stuff I mail order is usually in much ruffer shape as far as dents than what I buy locally, but it just depends on the stock boys, and delivery guys I'd guess.  Where Remington brass is of lower quality would be more visible if you cut a case in half.  THEN you'll see the difference around the primer pocket, and wall thickness.  Nothing to do with ruff handleing (Dremel tools are pretty handy for a clean cut).

I cant speak for the garand type action in particular.  But I've yet to see any automatic rifle that consistantly left brass cases in good enough shape I'd trust reloading them.  Only takes one little weak spot in a case wall to ruptur and possibly do very ugly things to a very expensive gun, and rather hard to replace arm...  Just not worth risking.  And with necked cases...  I have no idea how you push out even little dents in case walls that would drasticly change chamber pressures...  It's just not worth the risk of a Kaboom at any price!
Title: Re: Smoke'em if ya got'em...ammo availability
Post by: blackwolfe on June 20, 2009, 08:37:26 PM
No American Military Ammunition is steel. The only exception might have been during WW II. Even then if I recall we made out pennies out of steel so our ammo could be brass and copper. The eastern bloc countries use steel far more than NATO does.  Bill T.

I think there were some steel case .30 carbine rounds made in WWII.  Seems to me I saw some at a gun show once, but that is the only US steel case ammo I have seen.
Title: Re: Smoke'em if ya got'em...ammo availability
Post by: blackwolfe on June 20, 2009, 08:40:56 PM
I dont think you'll see a whole lot of American ammo being used outside this country.  I've seen a good bit of .308 in steel cases.  And the only  7.62 x 39 I personally have seen in brass is the Winchester stuff I buy to reload.  If your seeing a lot of bent up cases from handling it may well be happening after it leaves the factory.  The stuff I mail order is usually in much ruffer shape as far as dents than what I buy locally, but it just depends on the stock boys, and delivery guys I'd guess.  Where Remington brass is of lower quality would be more visible if you cut a case in half.  THEN you'll see the difference around the primer pocket, and wall thickness.  Nothing to do with ruff handleing (Dremel tools are pretty handy for a clean cut).

I cant speak for the garand type action in particular.  But I've yet to see any automatic rifle that consistantly left brass cases in good enough shape I'd trust reloading them.  Only takes one little weak spot in a case wall to ruptur and possibly do very ugly things to a very expensive gun, and rather hard to replace arm...  Just not worth risking.  And with necked cases...  I have no idea how you push out even little dents in case walls that would drasticly change chamber pressures...  It's just not worth the risk of a Kaboom at any price!

What do you reload this for?
Title: Re: Smoke'em if ya got'em...ammo availability
Post by: Badgersmilk on June 20, 2009, 10:04:17 PM
To this point.  Only an AK, and SKS.  What I REALLY want.  Drool over once in a while when I see one, but just cant bring myself to buy...  http://www.remington.com/products/firearms/centerfire_rifles/model_799.asp

The reloads make a HUGE improvement in the accuracy of the two semi-auto's, and with todays prices its actually cost effective.  I've just got to many other calibers I want to drop the cash down on the Remington (its actually a really well made rifle for them from CZ, CZ just stamps the Remington name on them, I havent seen the CZ version in stores here yet).

Great!  Now you've got me thinking about it and wanting to go get one again...

I've found a few of these M10's popping up to.  AMAZING build quality!!!

http://www.australianinternationalarms.com.au/product.htm
Title: Re: Smoke'em if ya got'em...ammo availability
Post by: Hazcat on June 20, 2009, 10:07:32 PM
Badger,

Like I tell everyone...If ya want accurate, buy a Savage.  ;)
Title: Re: Smoke'em if ya got'em...ammo availability
Post by: philw on June 20, 2009, 10:29:27 PM


I've found a few of these M10's popping up to.  AMAZING build quality!!!

http://www.australianinternationalarms.com.au/product.htm


Yep   Had to reply to this one


the good old Lee-Enfield No 4   ;D ;D ;D ;D   


I have thought about getting one of these rifles   ( after I get a few more 303's  ) 

I have only heard good things about these rifles 
Title: Re: Smoke'em if ya got'em...ammo availability
Post by: Badgersmilk on June 20, 2009, 10:41:31 PM
Savage doesnt make anything in 7.62 x 39.  I know their newest stuff is reported to be SUPER accurate.  But to look close at their rifles in the stores and see the machining marks left all over them, loose fitting parts, & generally ugly finishes on both metal and wood surfaces.  I just have a super hard time believing what I read in all the press.  Especially knowing they'll say anything to make a buck and promote new products.

I own an older Savage 110 chambered in .270 Win. that shoots pretty darn good for a light barrel gun.  Laminated stock and a polished bolt and trigger sure make it pretty!  Trigger breaks clean at 1lb 8ozs., and I bedded the action.  But I'll never use it just because I dont really like the caliber at all, & the fact that its a Savage.  I just plain dont like the gun!  My dad gave it to me, we used to hunt ground hog with it (only reason I keep it aside from it being so darn pretty!).  I'm going to visit in a few weeks and plan to give it back...  I just dont like the thing even being in my safe.

The pic doesnt begin to do it justice.  Especially when the Springfield 1 1/4" leather strap is on it...  Dont know why I hate it for sure...  Probably need theropy!  ;D  If it were a heavier barrel 30/06 I'd take it everywhere!  Best to just give it back...  Bad barrel, in a bad caliber, with a bad scope!  Not worth a rebuild.

(http://i703.photobucket.com/albums/ww40/BigCheeseStick/P1000962.jpg?t=1245556365)
Title: Re: Smoke'em if ya got'em...ammo availability
Post by: Badgersmilk on June 21, 2009, 01:10:10 AM
http://www.centerfiresystems.com/wolf308win150grfmj20rdpartam308-wolf20.aspx

Pretty cheap!
Title: Re: Smoke'em if ya got'em...ammo availability
Post by: Kid Shelleen on June 22, 2009, 02:43:22 PM
My Wally World was chocked full of ammo this past Saturday. Had almost all calibers for handguns, except .380 acp. and a decent selection of rifle ammo.

Had the six box limit so I got my six and my wife went back for 6 more right after I got home.
Title: Re: Smoke'em if ya got'em...ammo availability
Post by: Pathfinder on June 22, 2009, 03:34:29 PM
The only Semi auto I ever saw that was "Rough on brass", was the G 3's fluted chamber. As for 99% of military ammo being steel, the only steel cased ammo I have ever encountered was East European/Chinese.

Most HK and clone semi's will ding the brass pretty seriously, as will the Galil. At the Appleseed last year one guy had 2 Galil's - pre-ban BTW - and I was excited when I found out he didn't reload, had too much surplus ammo he said. I scooped up his brass before it became known it was available - and there on the side as a serious dent caused by the charging handle during ejection. Both the 7.62 and 5.56 had the dings.

My CETME does the same thing.
Title: Re: Smoke'em if ya got'em...ammo availability
Post by: ericire12 on June 23, 2009, 08:26:40 PM
The local market in my area is starting to look pretty good for us consumers.

I went to a local gun store the other day and the shelves were literally overflowing with ammo..... I simply can not underestimate how much ammo they had in stock... they had cases and cases of literally anything you could want. Everything had about a 25% premium compared to pre-election pricing, but ammo was in great abundance.

The most interesting thing, however was the pricing and availability of ARs and AKs -- Prices are down and supply is up. I will first say that this store is pretty pricey. Almost all of their firearms usually carry about a 20% premium with regards to what you could pay elsewhere if you do a little shopping. Anyway, About two months ago you could not touch an AR in that place for under $1200 or an AK for under $1000..... and they were not really brands that you would really be thrilled about buying either. Now ARs are down to $1000 for top quality brands and AKs are starting at $800.... and they had a deep supply of both.

The store was also darn near empty.... You usually have to elbow your way up to the display case to drool all over their inventory, and if you want to shoot at their 20 lane firing range then you will have to take a number and wait....... neither were the case this day.

It will be interesting to see if all that ammo will sell or if they may have to make a price point adjustment to get it to move.
Title: Re: Smoke'em if ya got'em...ammo availability
Post by: Badgersmilk on June 26, 2009, 08:58:30 PM
"The local market in my area is starting to look pretty good for us consumers.

I went to a local gun store the other day and the shelves were literally overflowing with ammo..... "

X2 for Michigan.  Prices arent great, but they've come down, and most places have full or close to full shelves now.
Title: Re: Smoke'em if ya got'em...ammo availability
Post by: Timothy on June 27, 2009, 07:59:27 PM
Went out to Bass Pro to stock up on cleaning supplies and managed to score a couple of boxes of .38 special.  Could have bought about 1000 rounds but figured things are starting to level off.  Nothing in .45 but plenty of 9mm, some .40 and lots of defensive stuff.

Rifle cartridges in .270, .308, 7.62 were plentiful though not overflowing and even .223 was abundent.  Maybe things ARE turning around.  Could not find any primers guys.  I even asked figuring I could buy them and somehow ship them to those of you that load but no dice..

And the beat goes on!

Title: Re: Smoke'em if ya got'em...ammo availability
Post by: blackwolfe on June 28, 2009, 05:32:00 PM
http://www.midwestgunexchange.com/   Click on link for sale flier.
Was at MWG for their Grand Reopnening Sale from their move last fall.  The only ammo they didn't have when I asked was .45 colt.  When I asked about .380 and if there was a limit I was asked how many cases I wanted.  They had Aquila and Fiocchi in stock, and I'm not sure what else.  They had a pallet of Winchester .62 grain 5.56 M855 for 11.99/box and I forget the case price.  They had .308 in stock and Wolf 7.62x39 Military Classic for 5.99/box.  PMags for $11.00 and C-Products mags for $8.99.
Wanted to buy a Rock River Arms stripped lower for $109.99 but they wouldn't sell me one because I live across the border in MI and they said that BATF NOW considers a lower they same as a pistol for the purpose of selling across state lines. >:(

There was a Glock rep there, but alas and unfortunately the beautiful Jessie Abbate was not.  I asked him why she wasn't there and he didn't know, but did say she is beautiful and married to someone about twice her age. :'(

The best deal of the day seemed to be 1000 round cases of PMC Bronze .55gr FMJ .223 for $349.50. :)

There were a lot of women, not all with husbands and boyfriends, in the store which makes me feel good about the future of shooting sports.

The sale continues untill July 3rd, with more reps, and giveaways, including Alice Cooper concert tickets and guns.

Title: Re: Smoke'em if ya got'em...ammo availability
Post by: blackwolfe on June 30, 2009, 11:47:58 AM
Got an email alert a few minutes ago about this if any body is looking.

223, 308, 7.62x39 and 50 BMG In Stock and on Sale Now! Limited Quantities!‏

http://www.natchezss.com/index.cfm

Title: Re: Smoke'em if ya got'em...ammo availability
Post by: tommy tornado on June 30, 2009, 07:47:07 PM
Natchez must have just gotten in a shipment of stuff because I picked up 4000 Large Pistol Primers as well.
Title: Re: Smoke'em if ya got'em...ammo availability
Post by: Hottrockin on July 13, 2009, 06:31:03 PM
http://www.ammunitiontogo.com/ (http://www.ammunitiontogo.com/) has some 9mm, .38 Special, .40 S&W, .44 Mag and .45 ACP stuff!  No .380 ACP.  Also, has some 5.56 & 7.62 stuff.
Title: Re: Smoke'em if ya got'em...ammo availability
Post by: Hazcat on July 22, 2009, 11:32:45 AM
Just picked up;

100 rounds of 44 mag Semi jacket

140 rounds of 45 colt hot loaded hollow point

50 rounds of 30-06 loaded with the lever evolution bullets (150 grain)

All for $103.00 from my reloader.  BUT he cannot get powder right now and is really hurtin!
Title: Re: Smoke'em if ya got'em...ammo availability
Post by: shooter32 on July 22, 2009, 12:04:32 PM
Just picked up;

100 rounds of 44 mag Semi jacket

140 rounds of 45 colt hot loaded hollow point

50 rounds of 30-06 loaded with the lever evolution bullets (150 grain)
All for $103.00 from my reloader.  BUT he cannot get powder right now and is really hurtin!


Haz, have you shot these before and if so what did ya think?
Title: Re: Smoke'em if ya got'em...ammo availability
Post by: Hazcat on July 22, 2009, 12:23:39 PM
No haven't shot them.  I will be shooting them from my Savage bolt gun.  I give y'all a report when I do.
Title: Re: Smoke'em if ya got'em...ammo availability
Post by: Badgersmilk on August 02, 2009, 12:31:07 PM
Bass Pro and Walmart are well stocked in both MI and SC.  IF you get there within 3 days of them recieving the shipment.  Doesnt last any longer than that.  Then your waiting a couple weeks again.
Title: Re: Smoke'em if ya got'em...ammo availability
Post by: jzzr83 on August 03, 2009, 10:42:37 AM
Last week Walmart in Shakopee, MN had some "Winchester Supreme Elite PDX1 9mm Luger +P 124gr JHP Bonded Personal Protection" in stock.  (That name is straight from the box.  Longest name ever? Perhaps.)  They had 38 Special, .40, .45 and 9mm.  Probably around 20 boxes on the shelf of each caliber.  I read that this is the ammo the FBI issues their agents.  So I figured it is good enough for me.  It was $18.47/box of 20rds for the 9mm. 
Title: Re: Smoke'em if ya got'em...ammo availability
Post by: Kid Shelleen on August 03, 2009, 03:00:55 PM
Last week Walmart in Shakopee, MN had some "Winchester Supreme Elite PDX1 9mm Luger +P 124gr JHP Bonded Personal Protection" in stock.  (That name is straight from the box.  Longest name ever? Perhaps.)  They had 38 Special, .40, .45 and 9mm.  Probably around 20 boxes on the shelf of each caliber.  I read that this is the ammo the FBI issues their agents.  So I figured it is good enough for me.  It was $18.47/box of 20rds for the 9mm. 
Thanks for the info. My Wally has never had any PD ammo, only range ammo.

I hope that your Winchester Supreme Elite find is a sign of things to come. Usually as one Wally goes, so go the others. Hey, I can hope. ;D
Title: Re: Smoke'em if ya got'em...ammo availability
Post by: m25operator on August 09, 2009, 02:28:55 PM
Just found this place https://surplusammo.com/
they have ammo in stock, .223 pricing is not bad.
Title: Re: Smoke'em if ya got'em...ammo availability
Post by: blackwolfe on August 12, 2009, 01:33:31 AM
Got an email alert today from Natchess Shooters supply.  Thay have a bunch of .223 and some 5.56 available.  You can find some of it here.  http://www.natchezss.com/product.cfm?contentID=productDetail&prodID=FAAE223BK&lsrc=NZ&src=BE417
Title: Re: Smoke'em if ya got'em...ammo availability
Post by: 2Alpha on August 28, 2009, 06:32:20 PM
I stopped by Wal-Mart to get some insect repellant and noticed they had Wincherster WB 44 Mag 240 Gr for $31.99!  I bought all they had! (5 boxes!) ;D
2A
Title: Re: Smoke'em if ya got'em...ammo availability
Post by: Hazcat on August 28, 2009, 06:38:46 PM
I stopped by Wal-Mart to get some insect repellant and noticed they had Wincherster WB 44 Mag 240 Gr for $31.99!  I bought all they had! (5 boxes!) ;D
2A

Hoarder!



;D
Title: Re: Smoke'em if ya got'em...ammo availability
Post by: 2Alpha on August 29, 2009, 06:17:28 PM
Hoarder!



;D

Heh- heh... Yep!
And I'm going to check back in 2 weeks to see if they've restocked at the same price! ;D

Best price I've been able to find is $38/50 + shipping!
Figured I save about $10 a box!
Title: Re: Smoke'em if ya got'em...ammo availability
Post by: blackwolfe on August 30, 2009, 01:21:03 AM
I stopped by Wal-Mart to get some insect repellant and noticed they had Wincherster WB 44 Mag 240 Gr for $31.99!  I bought all they had! (5 boxes!) ;D
2A

I hadn't had much luck at Walmart lately till yesterday.  Picked up Federal 9mm 115gr. FMJ for 9.97/50.  They has about 30 boxes.  Also got some .22 bulk packs that I haven't seen in awhile.  They had some Win 9mm also and a little of some other popular calibers.

I was lucky last fall and found some Win WB like you discribed on clearance at a couple differant places and stocked up then.
Title: Re: Smoke'em if ya got'em...ammo availability
Post by: GlockMeister on August 31, 2009, 08:33:12 PM
ammoman.com has, last I checked, 62gr. .223/5.56Prvi PArtizn, $399/1000. That is athe shipped to your door price.

sportsmansguide.com also has, last I checked, some Silver Bear .223 (if you like that stuff)?

And, I did find some Winchester white box of ,45acp on gunbroker for $215.00 + shipping. There's also some 9mm and .40S&W on GB as well. Some isn't to overly proced. But there are some sellers that think they're selling gold. lol
Title: Re: Smoke'em if ya got'em...ammo availability
Post by: Marshal Halloway on September 08, 2009, 07:25:52 PM

Just in: 7:24 PM Central
CCI Large Pistol Primers in stock:

http://www.natchezss.com/product.cfm?contentID=productDetail&prodID=CC0012&src=sim

Title: Re: Smoke'em if ya got'em...ammo availability
Post by: Walter45Auto on September 12, 2009, 08:07:39 PM
ammoman.com has, last I checked, 62gr. .223/5.56Prvi PArtizn, $399/1000. That is athe shipped to your door price.

sportsmansguide.com also has, last I checked, some Silver Bear .223 (if you like that stuff)?

I'll NEVER shoot that silver bear stuff again! I had a round of that stuff lock up my .30-06! Did I mention my .30-06 is a PUMP model Remington 760?!? That's pretty bad when you lock up a pump gun with the first shot, don't you think???
Title: Re: Smoke'em if ya got'em...ammo availability
Post by: ericire12 on September 20, 2009, 07:42:12 PM
About 3 or 4 days ago Wal-Mart had about a 12 boxes of .45...... Today Dick's was overflowing.... they probably had 5-15 boxes of every type of common caliber there is..... Prices were still high, so I passed.
Title: Re: Smoke'em if ya got'em...ammo availability
Post by: Timothy on September 20, 2009, 07:45:02 PM
About 3 or 4 days ago Wal-Mart had about a 12 boxes of .45...... Today Dick's was overflowing.... they probably had 5-15 boxes of every type of common caliber there is..... Prices were still high, so I passed.

Our DSG had mostly Wolf and Blazer....not cheap either, I passed as well.
Title: Re: Smoke'em if ya got'em...ammo availability
Post by: mosbear on September 20, 2009, 07:54:01 PM
Got 600rds WWB 9mm at WMart yesterday at $21.97, left two boxes on the shelf. There were more then a dozen boxes of .40 and .45 plus some .38. Shelves stocked with hunting calibers and birdshot. I see .40 regulary, but 9mm was a surprise. Other WMarts around here have them more often now.
Title: Re: Smoke'em if ya got'em...ammo availability
Post by: Hazcat on September 25, 2009, 05:03:34 PM
SCORE!

1 box of 380        16.95
3 boxes of 9         13.50 ea
3 boxes of 38 spl  11.95 ea

Ball ammo but good for plinkin at least.
Title: Re: Smoke'em if ya got'em...ammo availability
Post by: Hazcat on September 25, 2009, 05:03:57 PM
SCORE!

1 box of 380        16.95  FMC
3 boxes of 9         13.50 ea  FMJ
3 boxes of 38 spl  11.95 ea  JHP

Title: Re: Smoke'em if ya got'em...ammo availability
Post by: Hottrockin on September 25, 2009, 05:36:25 PM
Quote
SCORE!

1 box of 380        16.95  FMC
3 boxes of 9         13.50 ea  FMJ
3 boxes of 38 spl  11.95 ea  JHP

Killer find you krazy kitty!    ;D

Ammunition To Go http://www.ammunitiontogo.com/catalog1/index.php (http://www.ammunitiontogo.com/catalog1/index.php) has some 9mm, 40 S&W, 45 ACP as well as 5.56 & 7.62 for all you loose cannons!

~no .380 ACP~
Title: Re: Smoke'em if ya got'em...ammo availability
Post by: ericire12 on September 25, 2009, 08:14:26 PM
The other day, Wal-Mart Mega Lo Mart had Win White box aplenty in 9mm, .45 acp, .40, and .38 special.


*Its almost over boys..... hang in there!
Title: Re: Smoke'em if ya got'em...ammo availability
Post by: Pathfinder on October 02, 2009, 02:58:13 PM
OK, just got back from town, hit a couple of gun shops, and OMG - ammo was everywhere. The old Sportsmans Warehouse had tons of stuff in the popular calibers, missing a lot in some like .45ACP and .380. Price tags were missing from shelves on some of the ammo, it's been gone that long. Even had 4 bags (100 each) of Winchester .223 brass.

Then I went to Gander Mtn. - and they had 7, let me repeat that 7, different labels of .380 alone, including Federal Hydrashock. OK, the Federal was $25 for 20 rounds, but still!! Fochhi (2 completely different boxes but both 95gr FMJ) was $19 for 50 rounds. They had multiple labels of .25ACP and even 3-4 labels for 9mm Makarov.

The one that I almost fell over on were the boxes of Hornady 6.8 Rem SPC on the shelf! OK, it was $2 a round ($40 the box of 20) but again, on the shelf!

They wanted #13 for Wolf 7.69x39 - the same stuff Mills is selling for $7.
Title: Re: Smoke'em if ya got'em...ammo availability
Post by: ericire12 on October 03, 2009, 09:16:57 AM
Thats a big tell when you start seeing calibers like .25 ACP and Makarov showing up.
Title: Re: Smoke'em if ya got'em...ammo availability
Post by: L.E. Keeney on October 10, 2009, 07:39:47 PM
SCORE!

1 box of 380        16.95  FMC
3 boxes of 9         13.50 ea  FMJ
3 boxes of 38 spl  11.95 ea  JHP



I just can't find 38 special ammo more than 1 box every month or so.,..and sure as heck I sure cant find any 38 special wadcutters.

Anyone know of any professionally reloaded 38 special wadcutters at reasonable prices?
Title: Re: Smoke'em if ya got'em...ammo availability
Post by: twyacht on October 11, 2009, 06:31:34 PM
I just can't find 38 special ammo more than 1 box every month or so.,..and sure as heck I sure cant find any 38 special wadcutters.

Anyone know of any professionally reloaded 38 special wadcutters at reasonable prices?

Magtech has the .38SPL, target ammo for 21.00 bucks for 50 !!!!!!! :o Have you checked ammoengine.com?

Cheaper than dirt, had some last week.
Title: Re: Smoke'em if ya got'em...ammo availability
Post by: Adkins on October 11, 2009, 07:07:56 PM
picked up 100 rounds of wolf ammo today for the money pit, aka my Dpms Sportical. looks like things are getin better
Title: Re: Smoke'em if ya got'em...ammo availability
Post by: 1911 Junkie on October 11, 2009, 09:26:43 PM
Figured I wouldn't completely waste the day today and took the kids to a new gun show. It was put on by Showmasters and it was thier first one in this area. I think they are out of Virginia. It was a pretty good show.

There were all kinds of ammo and components. The vendors were still awefully proud of thier products and not much seemed to be moving out the door. But the stuff is out there again.
Title: Re: Smoke'em if ya got'em...ammo availability
Post by: twyacht on October 16, 2009, 08:25:59 PM
Cheaperthandirt.com S&B 5.56 for $7.97 per 20. New ammo. Prices probably won't get much better, and NO I won't shoot Wolf, or that Bear stuff in my Sig556..

Czech is as far as I'll go...
Title: Re: Smoke'em if ya got'em...ammo availability
Post by: david86440 on October 20, 2009, 11:16:27 PM
I ordered some .380 back in July from Cabela's. I have received most of the order but I'm still waiting on 5 boxes they are now saying should arrive in Nov.

Customer: 17851072-0010897XXX Order Date: 7/10/09

Products Ordered

4 of 21-5727 Magtech Blueline Pistol per Box Ammo 380 AUTO 95 GR FMJ
Backorder-Tentative arrival to Cabelas 11/15/09

1 of 21-0831 Winchester USA Handgun Ammunition .380 95 GR FMJ
Backorder-Tentative arrival to Cabelas 11/15/09

4 of 21-5727 Magtech Blueline Pistol per Box Ammo 380 AUTO 95 GR FMJ
Backorder-Tentative arrival to Cabelas 10/15/09

1 of 21-0831 Winchester USA Handgun Ammunition .380 95 GR FMJ
Backorder-Tentative arrival to Cabelas 10/15/09

1 of 21-7043 PMC BRONZE LINE HANDGUN AMMO/50 .380 AUTO 90GR FMJ
Shipped-08/19/09

3 of 21-0837 Sellier & Bellot Pistol Ammunition per 50 380 AUTO 92GR FMJ
Shipped-08/06/09

1 of 21-7043 PMC BRONZE LINE HANDGUN AMMO/50 .380 AUTO 90GR FMJ
Backorder-Tentative arrival to Cabelas 09/15/09

4 of 21-5727 Magtech Blueline Pistol per Box Ammo 380 AUTO 95 GR FMJ
Backorder-Tentative arrival to Cabelas 09/15/09

1 of 21-0831 Winchester USA Handgun Ammunition .380 95 GR FMJ
Backorder-Tentative arrival to Cabelas 09/15/09

 
Title: Re: Smoke'em if ya got'em...ammo availability
Post by: PegLeg45 on October 26, 2009, 04:03:47 PM
Went into my local money funnel (aka Wal-mart). They are renovating (store is only 8 yrs old) and moved sporting goods so I moseyed on over to see what I could see and buy a couple of rifle cases for the silent auction fundraiser at our FFA Livestock Auction tonight.

Not a lot of anything except a few boxes of odd caliber hunting ammo, but they were well stocked on Federal .223 100 round bulk packs for $40. I was in a hurry and there was no one to get it.....so, I'll swing in tonight after the auction and grab a box or two.
They also had plenty of .40 S&W but mot much else in handgun ammo.
Title: Re: Smoke'em if ya got'em...ammo availability
Post by: david86440 on October 26, 2009, 08:40:53 PM
Not a lot of anything except a few boxes of odd caliber hunting ammo, but they were well stocked on Federal .223 100 round bulk packs for $40. I was in a hurry and there was no one to get it.....so, I'll swing in tonight after the auction and grab a box or two.
They also had plenty of .40 S&W but mot much else in handgun ammo.

I stopped by the local Walmart this afternoon to see what they had as I was looking for .40 S&W. They had one box of .357 sig, and some .22 shorts. That was about it. I debated buying the .357 sig.
Title: Re: Smoke'em if ya got'em...ammo availability
Post by: odyssey1 on October 27, 2009, 08:17:46 AM
Just wanted to say that I stopped by Cabellas last night and was surprised to find more ammo on the shelves than I've seen in a long time!  The guy stocking it said that things have slowed down quite a bit and that ammo is staying on the shelves much longer.  The only .380 ammo they are having a hard time keeping in stock is .380 but everything else was there for the most part.

I may have to swing by Wallmart to see if they also have it available.  I will say though that the prices have gone up quite a bit.  Last time I bought some S&B 9mm it was $9.99 for a box of 50.  Their "sale" price was $13.99.

I also noticed that their gun library is looking pretty packed with a lot of used guns for sale.  I saw a pristine series 70 Gold Cup as well as a S&W 627 pre-lock that I was very tempted to buy.
Title: Re: Smoke'em if ya got'em...ammo availability
Post by: david86440 on October 28, 2009, 01:49:34 PM
I stopped by the local Walmart this afternoon to see what they had as I was looking for .40 S&W. They had one box of .357 sig, and some .22 shorts. That was about it. I debated buying the .357 sig.

I stopped at Walmart again today looking for .40 S&W. There were 3 guys in front of me waiting for the clerk to arrive. There was a cart behind the counter with ammo in it that hadn't been placed on the shelf yet so there were waiting to see what it was. At least one of them was also looking for .40. The cart ended up being 9mm, .223, .30-30 and something else that I can't recall. No .40 S&W.

I did buy the box of .357 SIG and the last 3 boxes of .22LR that were on the shelf. Now I need to buy a .357 SIG
Title: Re: Smoke'em if ya got'em...ammo availability
Post by: david86440 on October 30, 2009, 04:49:12 PM
500 rounds of .40 WWB at Walmart this morning....... I got them before they hit the shelf!   8)

That almost made my day.
Title: Re: Smoke'em if ya got'em...ammo availability
Post by: Pathfinder on October 30, 2009, 04:58:30 PM
We have a brand new WW SuperCenter, just opened Thursday. Most ammo behind locked glass - even rifle. Only thing on the shelf is shotgun shells. Thanks to the Nanny Walaker who got into bed with Nanny Bloomberg, asshole!!!  >:(

Not much ammo in this brand new store either, whereas almost all of the gun shops are well stocked.

GF noted that even food supplies are limited. The old store (still open) has had open food shelves in a number of areas and this store has limited selection. For flour they only had house brand and Gold Medal, not the usual 5-6 labels. Hmmmmm. Wonder what this means?
Title: Re: Smoke'em if ya got'em...ammo availability
Post by: Timothy on October 31, 2009, 07:26:51 AM
I have not set foot in a Walmart in nearly two months.  My wife has finally realized that it's not really saving her any money to drive the twenty miles round trip to the nearest store to buy her few items we need weekly.

I still have 32 stores withing 30 miles but none are closer than the market or the local drug store.

I'm free!
Title: Re: Smoke'em if ya got'em...ammo availability
Post by: david86440 on November 28, 2009, 10:30:33 PM
I went to the local Gun Show today, 3 times today actually. Lots of ammo.

The first time was a little after 9am and I didn't stop because the line was so long I just kept on trucking right by. Went back a couple hrs later and got in the building but it was shoulder to shoulder and everyone had to move in unison. I fought my way around for about an hr, bought 250 rds of .45 and some small pistol primers and headed home

Went back this afternoon before closing and most of the crowd had left. Saw the most ammo in quite some time.

Was able to pick up some .45, .40. 45/70 and a box of .32S&W!. 



Title: Re: Smoke'em if ya got'em...ammo availability
Post by: Walter45Auto on November 28, 2009, 11:42:30 PM
I went to the gun show and picked up 4 boxes of .357 Hollowpoints. 2 boxes of Winchester personal defense and 2 boxes of Remington Golden Sabers. Also picked up 2 speed strips and a speedloader for my 649.
Title: Re: Smoke'em if ya got'em...ammo availability
Post by: PegLeg45 on December 21, 2009, 10:43:45 PM
It's amazing.
The week of Christmas, and the big brown (they just repainted the store) money-vacuum (aka: wal-mart) has .243, ,308, .30-06, 30-30 ammo stacked up.
Winchester silver box and Federal brands stacked six-high and six-deep on the shelves. Two weeks ago.....dust on the shelves. $17 a box for the Winchester stuff, across the board (30-30 slightly less) and $14 a box for the Federal stuff ($12 for 30-30).

Federal .223 bulk boxes of 100 rounds is $40 per box and they have dozens of boxes (this is the only stuff they've actually had for a while).
Title: Another On-line Ammunition Source: LuckyGunner.com
Post by: Stephen A. Camp on December 22, 2009, 06:44:45 AM
Hello.  I've become aware of another on-line source for ammunition.  It is LuckyGunner.com.  For those interested, I notice that they have .380 ACP in stock. 

I have not used this company and am not financially associated with them in any way.

If interested, it might be worth a look for folks wanting to buy .380 auto ammo, which has been in short supply.

http://www.luckygunner.com/handgun/380-auto-ammo

Best.
Title: Re: Smoke'em if ya got'em...ammo availability
Post by: ericire12 on December 22, 2009, 07:16:57 AM
Almost a month between posts............... Its over
Title: Re: Smoke'em if ya got'em...ammo availability
Post by: twyacht on December 23, 2009, 05:40:05 AM
Bass Pro was well stocked with 200rd cases of UMC .223 $89.99, all the way to Hornady premium .223 more pricey but there.

Remington .40 S&W 50rds. $17.99 all the SD ammo calibers, but no .380 target ammo.

Wal-mart had Remington 55gr, .223 20rds. and value packs. but NO handgun ammo except .25

Supply is slowly getting to all the retailers, price will never be what it used to be, but at least it's an improvement.

Stephen A. Camp, thanks for the link.

Yes I got a "little" .380 ammo. ;)


Title: Re: Smoke'em if ya got'em...ammo availability
Post by: Rastus on January 02, 2010, 02:15:34 PM
2000 rounds white box Winchester from Wally's World to partially cover the ammo used in classes at USSA in 2009.  Another 400 and I'll be about even.  $21.97/100

1,000 rounds Lake City green tip from Ammoman at $479 delivered....not bad these days.  I was going to wait for a better price later because I thought the price would be going down...but then I saw the Bloomberg MAIG treatise (Mayors Against "Illegal" Guns") that was discussed with BHO and his cronies.  A roadmap to ban guns without a single congressional vote.

Title: Re: Smoke'em if ya got'em...ammo availability
Post by: wantabe on January 06, 2010, 11:00:59 AM
There is any ammo you want on shelfs.  No ammo is not true.  You just have to pay two or three times what you did pay for it.
In 07 I could buy 1k of Black Hills 75 grain MBTHP for $175.00. Still have the receipt for it.  You will pay nearer $600./K now.
Title: Re: Smoke'em if ya got'em...ammo availability
Post by: tfr270 on February 20, 2010, 12:37:16 PM
Cheaper than Dirt has Remington Golden Saber .45acp for about $26 per box. Picked up a few boxes. They also have it in .357 and 9mm. That was before I looked through this thread and saw the the Lucky gunner link...54 boxes of GS .45 for $25 per box...

It's out there, but the locals are selling for almost twice as much as the internet. My local gun shop was selling GS .45 for $44 per box. He knows he's high but I think his wholesaler is charging him too much as well.
Title: Re: Smoke'em if ya got'em...ammo availability
Post by: PegLeg45 on February 20, 2010, 03:41:47 PM
.45 acp is still a rare item around my neck 'o the woods.
Title: Re: Smoke'em if ya got'em...ammo availability
Post by: twyacht on February 20, 2010, 03:51:22 PM
ammoseek.com

good outlet bunch of dealers to compare prices
Title: Re: Smoke'em if ya got'em...ammo availability
Post by: Gossamer on March 01, 2010, 08:13:07 PM
.45 Colt and .45-70 are hard to find around where I am but other ammo is starting to come around. You still find the odd stuff though. For example I found an entire case of British .303 at Bass Pro Shops of all places a few weeks back!?
Title: Re: Smoke'em if ya got'em...ammo availability
Post by: philw on March 02, 2010, 06:45:53 AM
.45 Colt and .45-70 are hard to find around where I am but other ammo is starting to come around. You still find the odd stuff though. For example I found an entire case of British .303 at Bass Pro Shops of all places a few weeks back!?

just out of interest  if you know

what was the brand / price of the 303  (also was it Ball or JSP's ) 


also how many in a case

just want to know how much we get bent over here
Title: Re: Smoke'em if ya got'em...ammo availability
Post by: tekoken on March 12, 2010, 01:01:48 PM
Wal mart in Brandon Florida is pretty stocked with .223, .40, .45 acp & .357 sig.
Title: Re: Smoke'em if ya got'em...ammo availability
Post by: tombogan03884 on March 12, 2010, 01:07:54 PM
Aim Surplus has .380 at $17/ box of 50 on their website
Title: Re: Smoke'em if ya got'em...ammo availability
Post by: Walter45Auto on March 15, 2010, 11:27:34 PM
Picked up some WWB FMJ in .45 ACP today. 2 100 round boxes for $33 bucks each at my local Wal Mart.
Title: Re: Smoke'em if ya got'em...ammo availability
Post by: ericire12 on March 16, 2010, 10:02:37 AM
I think a better title for this thread would have been: "Give me back my bullets"




Title: Re: Smoke'em if ya got'em...ammo availability
Post by: Walter45Auto on March 18, 2010, 11:24:27 PM
Ordered 500 rounds of Federal Hydra-shok 185 Gr +p .45 ACP and 100 rounds of Nobel 12 Ga. #4 buckshot from these guys and it came in 3 DAYS! ;D

http://www.ammunitiontogo.com/catalog1/product_info.php/pName/100rds-12-gauge-nobelsport-le-2-34-27-pellet-4-buckshot/cName/12-gauge-buckshot
Title: Re: Smoke'em if ya got'em...ammo availability
Post by: PABLO DEL NORTE on March 25, 2010, 07:51:07 AM
I STOPPED AT THE WORLDMART ON THE WAY HOME TO GET SOME STAPLES & SINCE I ALWAYS CHECK OUT IN THE SPORTING GOODS ( ;D ), I GRABBED ANOTHER BOX OF TURKEY SHELLS. I THEN NOTICED THE PRICES ON THE .30-.30 & THE .270 WIN.  THE .30-.30's WERE UP $1.50 A BOX & THE .270's WERE UP $2.00 A BOX!!
HOPE THAT IS NOT GOING TO START ANOTHER AMMO PROBLEM.  ???  :-\  ??? 
Title: Re: Smoke'em if ya got'em...ammo availability
Post by: huntnelk on April 06, 2010, 12:22:29 PM
Went to the Wal-mart yesterday and there was a bunch of ammo, even 380's.  The prices were good as well.  I paid $35 for 100 white box Winchester .380's.  I thought that was pretty good.  They had pretty much all of the popular calibers.  They also said they were planning on being able to kept it in stock...hopefully they are right.
Title: Re: Smoke'em if ya got'em...ammo availability
Post by: Hottrockin on April 07, 2010, 05:26:32 PM
Super sweet find!  Keep'em comin'!
Title: Re: Smoke'em if ya got'em...ammo availability
Post by: david86440 on April 07, 2010, 06:53:47 PM
I stopped by our local Walmart for the first time in months to see if they had anything on the shelf.

I was able to buy 2 boxes of Federal .40. They had 4 boxes but have a 2 box limit.

No 9mm, .357, 38, .380, .45 or .22.
Title: Re: Smoke'em if ya got'em...ammo availability
Post by: Hottrockin on April 08, 2010, 04:52:21 PM
Ammunition to go has some nice selections cookin'...

http://www.ammunitiontogo.com/catalog1/ (http://www.ammunitiontogo.com/catalog1/)
Title: Re: Smoke'em if ya got'em...ammo availability
Post by: McGyver on April 10, 2010, 06:26:54 PM
I use them religiously!
 ;D
Title: Re: Smoke'em if ya got'em...ammo availability
Post by: huntnelk on April 10, 2010, 08:57:05 PM
Wal-mart still had a bunch of ammo. Lots of 223, 308, 40, 45, and 9's.  We only have a 6 box limit.   Local gun store ammo shelves were full.  Had everything except 32's.  The only thing he is going to have trouble getting is 22's.  Said his supplier was out and didn't know when he would have more.  Even had .380 in Cor-bon, havent seen them in a long time.
Title: Re: Smoke'em if ya got'em...ammo availability
Post by: Marshal Halloway on April 26, 2010, 03:21:19 PM

Federal Small Pistol Primers available at Midway as of 04/26/10 3:21PM Central:

http://www.midwayusa.com/viewproduct/?productnumber=733657
Title: Re: Smoke'em if ya got'em...ammo availability
Post by: rj112275 on May 14, 2010, 01:54:03 PM
I thought this looked like a good deal on some 9mm or buckshot. Had no problems ordering from Dan's in the past.  1000 rd of 9mm for $219 shipped? Seems good to me.

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Title: Re: Smoke'em if ya got'em...ammo availability
Post by: ericire12 on May 15, 2010, 08:14:31 AM
I just read on another forum that Wal-Mart has ended their rationing of the amount of ammo you can buy
Title: Re: Smoke'em if ya got'em...ammo availability
Post by: Fatman on May 23, 2010, 08:48:55 AM
Hey! HEY! Looky here!  .45 Ranger Ts, not SXTs! Standard and +P available, $39.99 box + shipping.

http://www.ammunitiontogo.com/catalog1/index.php/cName/45-acp-hollow-point-ammo (http://www.ammunitiontogo.com/catalog1/index.php/cName/45-acp-hollow-point-ammo)
Title: Re: Smoke'em if ya got'em...ammo availability
Post by: bafsu92 on June 04, 2010, 07:51:32 AM
I just bought 4 boxes ea. of 9mm & .45 white box at Wal Mart yesterday. They still have a 4 box of each kind limit, no limit on total boxes. 100 rd boxes, $24.97 9mm & 33.97 .45. They also had a ton of the Federal Tactical 55 gr 5.56 - 100 rd boxes for $34.95. I bought 4 of those and may go back today for 4 more.
Title: Re: Smoke'em if ya got'em...ammo availability
Post by: Fatman on June 29, 2010, 06:50:28 PM
9mm ranger t at ammunition to go.
Title: Re: Smoke'em if ya got'em...ammo availability
Post by: Johnny Bravo on September 25, 2010, 09:44:56 PM
I just bought 4 boxes of .380 at Walmart. Yes .380 !!!!!!! It's Remington and it was $17.97 for a box of 50.
Title: Re: Smoke'em if ya got'em...ammo availability
Post by: jackslcp on September 26, 2010, 05:34:36 PM
$10 off $100 order at http://Scottsdaleammo.com

380 Auto in stock !!! for like 17 bucks before the coupon..............pretty solid deal.

Plus great pricing on 223, etc.
Title: Re: Smoke'em if ya got'em...ammo availability
Post by: McGyver on September 26, 2010, 06:43:23 PM
Plus we can support Arizona's fight against Illegal Immigration! 
Title: Re: Smoke'em if ya got'em...ammo availability
Post by: jp1 on September 26, 2010, 08:48:49 PM
I was at Dick’s Sporting goods this past Saturday and purchased some Remington 9mm at $14.99 a box, .223 Remington at $9.99 for a 20 round box, some 12g slugs at $4.49 a box and 500 rounds of 22 for $19.99. What I would really like to know is what do they have against 357 & 44 magnum? Seems to be hard to find, and when I do find them the price is high.
Title: Re: Smoke'em if ya got'em...ammo availability
Post by: Badgersmilk on October 07, 2010, 06:33:18 PM
What's the world comming to?!?  Local Wallyworld is fully stocked with everything from .22 shorts, to 30/06.  Including plenty of .380!  (Always seem's to be the hottest ticket in town)

Could it be America as a whole is fully stocked for TEOTW?!?!   :o ;)
Title: Re: Smoke'em if ya got'em...ammo availability
Post by: PegLeg45 on December 22, 2010, 12:02:09 PM
What's the world comming to?!?  Local Wallyworld is fully stocked with everything from .22 shorts, to 30/06.  Including plenty of .380!  (Always seem's to be the hottest ticket in town)

Could it be America as a whole is fully stocked for TEOTW?!?!   :o ;)

Local wally has it all here now too.

.380 - .45acp and even .45 Colt.

100 rounds of .45 ACP and 60 rounds of .308 Win for $78.

Federal .308 Win 180gr for $13 a box!!!!!
Title: Re: Smoke'em if ya got'em...ammo availability
Post by: Big Frank on May 20, 2014, 10:37:51 PM
I went to Gander Mountain today and they had plenty of ammo in every caliber I looked for but I forgot to check for .380. They had more shotgun ammo than anything else and not many choices in .22. I didn't realize just how old this thread was but things are looking up after a few years.
Title: Re: Smoke'em if ya got'em...ammo availability
Post by: kmitch200 on May 20, 2014, 11:34:42 PM
Same with the local Cabela's.  Lots of any caliber you want.
Title: Re: Smoke'em if ya got'em...ammo availability
Post by: billt on May 21, 2014, 08:33:10 AM
I went to Gander Mountain today and they had plenty of ammo in every caliber I looked for but I forgot to check for .380. They had more shotgun ammo than anything else and not many choices in .22. I didn't realize just how old this thread was but things are looking up after a few years.

I agree because I'm seeing much the same in my neck of the woods, and so are others. I think the days of $70.00 a brick .22's are starting to slowly disappear. I was in the Glendale, Arizona Cabela's last week, and I was able to pick up 500 rounds of Federal 124 Gr., 9MM, American Eagle for just $12.99 a box. That is pretty much pre Newtown prices for Federal Champion, which is supposedly one grade lower.

 .45 ACP, 230 Gr. FMJ, large primer, American Eagle was going for $21.99 the week before. All you wanted, no limit. They had plenty. They had many 500 round bricks of .22's available as well for $28.00 a brick. I believe CCI was the brand. Not great. but better than the $70.00+ the scalpers have been charging. Pretty soon these guys are going to be like Super Bowl ticket scalpers after the 4th quarter begins.

I think it will really drop off in price after sales slow down a bit. Right now most ammo is still selling like bell bottoms at a hippie convention.
Title: Re: Smoke'em if ya got'em...ammo availability
Post by: Magoo541 on May 22, 2014, 10:35:33 AM
I worked at the Saddle Butte Machine Gun Shoot over the weekend and found brass cased 308 for $18 per box of 50.  He also had some 7.62 X 39 and some 5.45 for pretty decent prices (7.62 was about $60 per 140 IIRC).  No 22 ammo though and believe me people were asking.
Title: Re: Smoke'em if ya got'em...ammo availability
Post by: Rastus on September 24, 2016, 08:53:39 PM
Starting to see 22 LR prices slide a little bit and availability is up.  If I had a hundred bucks I'd buy some.  I did get 200 rounds of Winchester Super X copper swashed at Wally's a couple of weeks ago. 

There seems to be plenty of availability of 5.56 green tip but it's still a bit high to me.  Wolf Gold 55 grain at $300 is a good price.         

Widener's used to be my goto until they changed their website and prices.  Natchez Shooters Supply was my go to 5.56 before that...now they are getting much closer to being the lowest cost provider on 5.56 and 22 LR with good availability.  However for the most part, Palmetto State Armory has been winning on the price front for the last couple of years.
Title: Re: Smoke'em if ya got'em...ammo availability
Post by: billt on September 24, 2016, 09:01:02 PM
The new Sportsman's Warehouse by me that just opened has Federal "Semi Auto" .22's for $21.00 for a 325 round carton. That comes out to a little more than .06 cents a round. Or about $3.23 @ box of 50. There was no limit. I think .22's are finally coming down, and are starting to be much more available.
Title: Re: Smoke'em if ya got'em...ammo availability
Post by: Rastus on October 09, 2016, 08:39:22 AM
http://palmettostatearmory.com/9mm-124gr-fmj-blazer-brass.html (http://palmettostatearmory.com/9mm-124gr-fmj-blazer-brass.html)

124 grain fmj Blaser Brass for $9.99 a box / $199.8 a thousand
Title: Re: Smoke'em if ya got'em...ammo availability
Post by: Rastus on December 13, 2019, 06:50:06 AM
I didn't think we'd see this again.  500 rounds under $15...

https://www.midwayusa.com/product/1019409117?pid=599864 (https://www.midwayusa.com/product/1019409117?pid=599864)
Title: Re: Smoke'em if ya got'em...ammo availability
Post by: TAB on December 13, 2019, 02:17:31 PM
I did not think we would ever see a brick under $20 again.
Title: Re: Smoke'em if ya got'em...ammo availability
Post by: PegLeg45 on December 16, 2019, 05:04:25 PM
I did not think we would ever see a brick under $20 again.

Agree 100% .....sad that it's Remy Thunderbolts.  ;D ;D ;D
But it's a start.  ;)
Title: Smoke'em if ya got'em...ammo availability
Post by: Timothy on December 16, 2019, 06:35:08 PM
Great price but what is the shipping cost?
Title: Re: Smoke'em if ya got'em...ammo availability
Post by: TAB on December 16, 2019, 09:38:45 PM
Great price but what is the shipping cost?

In the past when i ordered from them ammo was about $10.  It did not matter if it was a box or a case.     Its been sveral years, but i wouod assume its simlar now.  The big issue is wieght.  Iirc a brick of 22 is  4 lb 5 oz.   

I was spoiled in or as they were in la pine, which is jmlike 10 miles from bend.   They also made the weatherby brand ammo.   So if i wanted to feed my 257wby, it was kust a quick trip to thier ahow room. 

Out side of of hunting ammo( shot and rifle) 22  rim fires and self defense  ammo.  I have not bought any thing for years.  Once i got my dillon, pistol ammo was made, been reloading shot since i was a kid.  Very important  when you have a thing for 16 ga.
Title: Re: Smoke'em if ya got'em...ammo availability
Post by: Rastus on December 29, 2019, 08:35:35 PM
I picked up some Aguila Super Extra 22LR copper plated 40 grain solid and 38 grain HP...with shipping 0.0373 cents per round delivered from Midsouth Shooters Supply. 

I've never shot any of this before.....but for the price it's gotta plink.
Title: Re: Smoke'em if ya got'em...ammo availability
Post by: PegLeg45 on December 30, 2019, 12:20:08 PM
I picked up some Aguila Super Extra 22LR copper plated 40 grain solid and 38 grain HP...with shipping 0.0373 cents per round delivered from Midsouth Shooters Supply. 

I've never shot any of this before.....but for the price it's gotta plink.

The Aguila that I have used is good stuff. I use their high velocity HP stuff and it is comparable to CCI Stinger ammo. I carry the Aguila in my NA Mini pocket gun.
Title: Re: Smoke'em if ya got'em...ammo availability
Post by: TAB on December 30, 2019, 07:05:11 PM
I use  their sss with a can all the time for pest control.  My  air rifle is louder.
Title: Under 3 cents a round : Smoke'em if ya got'em...ammo availability
Post by: Rastus on January 18, 2020, 10:13:09 AM
https://www.midwayusa.com/product/1601314170

Midway is selling Remington gold 22LR for $2.93 per 100.  If you click on the 50 or 500 quantity the price goes up.  However, unless you can bundle it up for cheaper shipping it ends up being around 3.9 cents a round for 1000 rounds (10 boxes of 100). 
Title: Re: Smoke'em if ya got'em...ammo availability
Post by: Rastus on April 05, 2020, 08:17:45 AM
Good luck finding 22 long rifle out there.  There is some and not at too high a price...maybe 5 cents a round.  But all of the sub 4 cents a round 22 is gone from the places I checked. 

So...do you guys have enough 22LR in stock?  Time to evaluate did you have enough lying around before this virus hit.   
Title: Re: Smoke'em if ya got'em...ammo availability
Post by: MikeBjerum on April 05, 2020, 09:46:03 AM
Can't remember the exact numbers, but I had enough to cover me for a full season of bullseye (100+ rounds per week) and small bore (100+ per week), and practice, and to have some left over.  This is all CCI Standard Velocity - The round my Ruger Mark III's love and that my Savage responds well to as well.

I have a lot of other .22 as well in different manufacture - A few precision an a lot of high velocity.  This is all packed away yet from the move.

I also have quite a bit of center fire, but starting to run low on self defense stuff.  Practice is done with JHP or Ball, and I do run a few of the good stuff during each session.  If this crap goes on for too long my EDC will be affected by ammo availability.
Title: Re: Smoke'em if ya got'em...ammo availability
Post by: Rastus on April 05, 2020, 10:31:50 AM
Since you brought up the Rimfire Challenge in Fort Smith this year and got me fired up about everything 22 and I took stock of what I have.  I'm good on ammo.  I bought 10k of Aguilla 22LR (which I have never run) a couple of months ago.  But I did notice that 22LR is practically gone now.

You dog.  You have me looking for new dots on the 10/22 also.  I'm going to set up a range to practice on at the place in Arkansas...so I'm also needing some additional steel targets.  Thanks a lot for costing me what little cash I have right now....

Mike, you dang well better show up at Fort Smith this year.....
Title: Re: Smoke'em if ya got'em...ammo availability
Post by: MikeBjerum on April 05, 2020, 12:08:16 PM
Thanks a lot for costing me what little cash I have right now....

Mike, you dang well better show up at Fort Smith this year.....

Sorry!!!  Michael Bane has cost me more money than my bride!

I am moving forward with plans, I am watching the Bride's health, and double checking every "save the date" thing we have been sent.  I have a nephew that is getting married this fall that is a must attend - Better not mess with Rimfire!

I am going to pull out the repeating airsofts, and ordering a Crosman 1077 for practice in the basement/garage/backyard (I'm sure I'll set someone off in the neighborhood with this one).
Title: Re: Smoke'em if ya got'em...ammo availability
Post by: TAB on April 05, 2020, 01:43:13 PM
I picked up some a couple weeks back, just no place open to go shoot.
Title: Re: Smoke'em if ya got'em...ammo availability
Post by: Timothy on April 05, 2020, 02:24:52 PM
I have about 600 or 700 rounds of Remington and Winchester to barter with.

I have no working .22..
Title: Re: Smoke'em if ya got'em...ammo availability
Post by: Rastus on April 05, 2020, 04:30:17 PM
No working 22?  Huh?   What?  ???

Title: Smoke'em if ya got'em...ammo availability
Post by: Timothy on April 05, 2020, 05:58:57 PM
My 1903 is in need of a smithy!
Title: Re: Smoke'em if ya got'em...ammo availability
Post by: PegLeg45 on April 05, 2020, 06:39:30 PM
So...do you guys have enough 22LR in stock?  Time to evaluate did you have enough lying around before this virus hit.

Does anyone ever really have enough??  8)

Title: Re: Smoke'em if ya got'em...ammo availability
Post by: MikeBjerum on April 05, 2020, 08:10:58 PM
No working 22?  Huh?   What?  ???

I used to remember, because I would come across it from time to time, but CRS is getting serious.

Who was it that made a statement referring to the quality of a man judging by the .22 he had.
Title: Re: Smoke'em if ya got'em...ammo availability
Post by: TAB on April 05, 2020, 09:22:55 PM
Does anyone ever really have enough??  8)

Yes, when the floor boards can not handle the weight  of it.  I have only a few bricks worth of 22.  Not high on my buy priorities  atm. 
Title: Re: Smoke'em if ya got'em...ammo availability
Post by: Majer on April 05, 2020, 10:24:52 PM
I have somewhere around 10,000 rounds of quality .22LR and a couple hundred .22 mag, so I'm good.
Title: Re: Smoke'em if ya got'em...ammo availability
Post by: TAB on April 06, 2020, 07:49:12 PM
Not really related, but how much of your guys ammo stash is reloads vs factory.

Right now for me out side of sd ammo, rim fire and some milsurp its all reloads. 


I am very much lacking in a few places,  i have 10 mags of 223,   i have about 100 38/357 and no 16 ga, despite me owning more 16 ga then all other shot guns.   I have plenty of 410, 20, 28 and 12.      Thats something i should fix, buy 1000 or so hulls and reload some 16.



Edit.... well i have 500 rounds of 1 oz # 8 rems coming now.   Still need to order primers, powder, shots and wads, but it will give me something to take to the range  when thry open back up.
Title: Re: Smoke'em if ya got'em...ammo availability
Post by: Majer on April 06, 2020, 07:58:36 PM
I've been reloading my ammo since 1985, I still have some .38 Jacketed hollowpoints from the 90's I loaded. I would have to do an inventory but I would say I have 1500, .38's, 1000 .357 Mag, a couple hundred 9mm over 2000 .45a.c.p and a couple hundred 30-30. Shotgun ammo I have over 2000 12 gauge loaded for CAS and a couple hundred factory in various loads (Buckshot, slugs and birdshot ) and I just picked up 500 new Starline .38 special casings that will become CAS ammo.
Title: Re: Smoke'em if ya got'em...ammo availability
Post by: Timothy on April 06, 2020, 08:08:24 PM
Do not load...
Title: Re: Smoke'em if ya got'em...ammo availability
Post by: MikeBjerum on April 06, 2020, 09:32:57 PM
I'm about 50/50.

I reload for trap, for USPSA and Centerfire Bullseye, and for SASS.
Title: Re: Smoke'em if ya got'em...ammo availability
Post by: tombogan03884 on May 04, 2020, 02:37:53 PM
You're all on crack. There's no shortage of ammo.
You just need to know where to look.
LGS is useless for ammo.
Ammo Seek.
Title: Re: Smoke'em if ya got'em...ammo availability
Post by: MikeBjerum on May 04, 2020, 06:41:26 PM
Twenty-One minutes from intro to telling us all that we are on crack.  DAMN!!! I missed you Boy!
Title: Re: Smoke'em if ya got'em...ammo availability
Post by: tombogan03884 on May 04, 2020, 07:28:36 PM
 ;D   Go ahead and laugh. Writing that post was what pushed me the last bit into rejoining.   ;D
I just got 200 rounds of 9 mm just to prove the point to another guy .   ;D
I swear by this.

   
https://ammoseek.com/

Title: Re: Smoke'em if ya got'em...ammo availability
Post by: PegLeg45 on May 04, 2020, 07:36:49 PM
We have a local area guy about fifty miles from me that didn't price gouge on guns or ammo back during the big shortages of the BHO years. He built up a large base of loyal customers because of that and he has been keeping regular stock through the Great Covid Panic of 2020 and still not raising prices from what they were before. He's still getting pallets of ammo in every week and is selling at regular prices. The only thing he does is regulate the quantities of some ammo purchases so everyone has a chance to buy some.
Title: Re: Smoke'em if ya got'em...ammo availability
Post by: tombogan03884 on May 04, 2020, 08:45:58 PM
The place I got my 9MM from was in Ga.
Title: Re: New Ammo Directory
Post by: Rastus on May 24, 2020, 06:50:47 AM
I was looking at 22LR.  It would be nice to have a column to sort on price per round.
Title: Re: New Ammo Directory
Post by: alfsauve on May 24, 2020, 09:12:10 AM
And since you're advertising on Down Range, how about a discount for forum users?
Title: Re: New Ammo Directory
Post by: tombogan03884 on May 24, 2020, 09:43:54 AM
Are those prices lowest to highest ?
Title: Re: New Ammo Directory
Post by: Rastus on May 25, 2020, 08:38:34 AM
And since you're advertising on Down Range, how about a discount for forum users?

I like how you think.....
Title: Re: New Ammo Directory
Post by: tombogan03884 on May 25, 2020, 09:08:43 AM
Compare with Ammoseek and make your own choice.
I compared prices on what I've bought in the last month and they don't have either brand.

https://ammoseek.com/
Title: Re: New Ammo Directory
Post by: alfsauve on May 25, 2020, 10:50:05 AM
There are now 3 or 4 of these sites with AmmoSeek being one of the first.

I find them helpful in finding vendors I wasn't familiar with and for a benchmark price point.   However, i've become rather picky in what ammo I get and the really best buys are reflected on these sites.   I find keeping my eye on the LGS and their sale flyers works best for me.
 
Title: Re: New Ammo Directory
Post by: tombogan03884 on May 25, 2020, 11:43:47 AM
LGS was why I started using Ammoseek.
I knew the LGS was low on 9mm, then my neighbor was whining about no ammo.
So I ordered 200 rounds of Magtech JHP to show him how.
Then when my new gat was on the way I got 300 rounds of 10 MM for $137 including shipping.
Title: Re: Smoke'em if ya got'em...ammo availability
Post by: Rastus on August 02, 2020, 09:40:48 AM
I picked up some Aguila Super Extra 22LR copper plated 40 grain solid and 38 grain HP...with shipping 0.0373 cents per round delivered from Midsouth Shooters Supply. 

I've never shot any of this before.....but for the price it's gotta plink.

I wish I had bought 4 times as much.  The best price I'm finding is fo some SK at $49.95 for 500 rounds...volume discount if you buy many at Graf's. 

This is looking as "dry" on ammo as when BHO was in play. 
Title: Re: Smoke'em if ya got'em...ammo availability
Post by: tombogan03884 on August 02, 2020, 02:50:11 PM
I'm still finding common calibers, but selection is down with prices going up.
I looked for 6.5 Carcano  and didn't find anything at all.
On that subject, any one ever heard of 7.62 X 45 ?
Title: Re: Smoke'em if ya got'em...ammo availability
Post by: Timothy on August 02, 2020, 03:49:26 PM
7.62x45 is old Czech ammo
Title: Re: Smoke'em if ya got'em...ammo availability
Post by: alfsauve on August 02, 2020, 06:41:16 PM
Dang it.  On Friday I saw that Federal Premium's web site had 147gr 9mm.  But I thought, naw.  Why pay premium for that when I got plenty of the 115gr, and lots of Winchester 115gr.  No reason to pay that much for it.   

Then I went to an GSSF Indoor League and came within 3 shots of a perfect score with that ammo.  It shoots so good in my G17.  I've got to have more to see me through September.

OF COURSE, it's now not available.
Title: Re: Smoke'em if ya got'em...ammo availability
Post by: PegLeg45 on August 02, 2020, 07:04:20 PM
We have an area guy who still gets 9mm and a few others, just not quite as regularly as a month ago.
God bless him, he still refuses to gouge on prices too..... he never raised his prices during the BHO years either, so that's why his loyal customers will line up around the building and wait. He supplies chairs, tents and water also.

The last trip over we snagged a brick of Aguila .22lr for $23 (Classic firearms was selling it for $25 online) and 9mm ball was $12 for 50 rounds. Fiocchi .40 S&W JHP was running $18 for 50 rounds.

Hornady SD ammo was around $23 per box which is what places like Academy was selling it for when stocks were plentiful. Most places that actually have it now are over $30 per box and up.

I ordered 2k CCI large pistol primers from Natchez last month but have not checked of they have any now.
1k 225gr TC bullets in .45 ACP from my lead bullet guy added to my stockpile for reloading.
Title: Re: Smoke'em if ya got'em...ammo availability
Post by: billt on August 05, 2020, 08:02:06 AM
In an abstract sort of way, this is actually a good sign. In spite of it causing guys like us a lot of inconvenience. I say that because it shows a LOT of people are waking up to the fact this country is in deep $hit..... Just as many predicted. And many now realize this may very well go to guns before it's over.
Title: Re: Smoke'em if ya got'em...ammo availability
Post by: tombogan03884 on August 05, 2020, 09:08:18 AM
The enemy is tooling up.
Liberals will donate and vote for free stuff, or abortion.
But while they may not say anything, they will ignore anti gun candidates since they now have Glocks, AR's, and GSG .22's stashed at home.
Title: Re: Smoke'em if ya got'em...ammo availability
Post by: alfsauve on August 06, 2020, 11:56:37 AM
GOT 'EM

Kept checking the Federal Premium website several times a day.  Just now the AE9FP (9mm 147gr) became available.  It hurts after paying ~$0.14/rd the first of the year to be paying $0.40 now.  But this will see me through all Glock competitions until 2021.
Title: Re: Smoke'em if ya got'em...ammo availability
Post by: TAB on August 17, 2020, 10:45:03 PM
Any one know where i can find decent 556 brass?   All i can find in any type of quanity  is  grade 2 range brass.  Starline is what i have been using.
Title: Re: Smoke'em if ya got'em...ammo availability
Post by: tombogan03884 on August 18, 2020, 08:38:39 AM
Ammo man ?
Title: Re: Smoke'em if ya got'em...ammo availability
Post by: alfsauve on August 18, 2020, 12:03:26 PM
Starline does have "basic" brass with unformed neck available.

Title: Re: Smoke'em if ya got'em...ammo availability
Post by: TAB on August 18, 2020, 12:09:13 PM
so what you need forming dyes to make it usable?   


I would like to get about 5k cases so i will have something to do for the next month or so.  while i wait for slab to cure.   trying hard not to work right now.
Title: Re: Smoke'em if ya got'em...ammo availability
Post by: alfsauve on August 18, 2020, 12:10:47 PM
MIDSOUTH Shooter Supply

https://www.midsouthshooterssupply.com/item/0001320257213b250/223-remington-unprimed-rifle-brass-bulk-250-count

About $0.40ea but are at least in stock
Title: Re: Smoke'em if ya got'em...ammo availability
Post by: TAB on August 18, 2020, 02:08:40 PM
I am actually looking for 556 brass.  That is also double the price from starline.
Title: Re: Smoke'em if ya got'em...ammo availability
Post by: MikeBjerum on August 18, 2020, 05:11:12 PM
so what you need forming dyes to make it usable?   


I would like to get about 5k cases so i will have something to do for the next month or so.  while i wait for slab to cure.   trying hard not to work right now.

A month?  What are you pouring?
Title: Re: Smoke'em if ya got'em...ammo availability
Post by: tombogan03884 on August 18, 2020, 05:19:46 PM
 ;D Mike this is his own. doing it RIGHT is more important than fast. 
That's how long it takes for concrete to properly cure .
Title: Re: Smoke'em if ya got'em...ammo availability
Post by: MikeBjerum on August 18, 2020, 05:52:10 PM
Ten days will give you a 70% cure and load ready.  Watch road builders, they are driving their trucks and equipment on the fresh before two weeks.  I understand taking your time, and that is all fine and dandy, but I always find that that is what stretches a 12 month project into a 18, 24, or more month endurance trek.

We used to set houses down on seven day laid or poured all the time with no issues.
Title: Re: Smoke'em if ya got'em...ammo availability
Post by: TAB on August 18, 2020, 06:18:00 PM
Slab for a steal building.  The slab would be fine in 2 weeks, the 4' x10' deep footers not so much.   Min 28 days, 6 weeks would be better.
Title: Re: Smoke'em if ya got'em...ammo availability
Post by: MikeBjerum on August 20, 2020, 09:19:32 PM
Got a little side distraction today.  I set one of my monitors on the security cameras (4 of them) that used to give a view of our north truck lot and exterior of the shop.  Now they just show the inside of our new freezer that is under construction (25,000 sq ft).  I have watched footings, foundation walls, five feet of compacted fill, steel framework, insulated panels, couldn't watch roof because cameras are aimed down, and glycol lines all going on.  Monday I turned the system on and saw that they had poured the grout on Saturday.  Tuesday and Wednesday were spent laying vapor barrier and foam board, and setting tube forms around all the uprights to isolate them from the slab.  Today they came in with the laser screed and riding finishers.  This is the first time I have watched a laser screed in operation, and it is damn impressive.

Jump to about the three minute point for the action:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=65YL4f2jIGY

They started pumping about 0830, and when I left at 1600, they were about 2/3 done with the pour and screed, the three riders were following very close, and the final finish rider was almost to the half way point.  Tomorrow I will look at the replay to see when they finished.  925 yards poured and finished in one day!  Not rough finish, this is glass smooth.

I said "WOW" to our CFO on my way out the door this afternoon, and he said schedule is for the boom lift and scissor lifts to be in on Monday to start running refrigerant lines and hanging units.  Once the units are hung, the racking will be stacked in, the final wall sections will be put in, and the building will be sealed for the final installations.
Title: Re: Smoke'em if ya got'em...ammo availability
Post by: tombogan03884 on August 21, 2020, 09:48:36 AM
COOL !
Thanks for sharing that one.
Beats hell out of 2 guys and a board .   ;D
Title: Re: Smoke'em if ya got'em...ammo availability
Post by: alfsauve on August 24, 2020, 05:11:31 PM
I hate to try and get this back on topic.

FederalPremium.com has American Eagle 9mm 115gr this afternoon.  $18.00/50. 
Title: Re: Smoke'em if ya got'em...ammo availability
Post by: alfsauve on August 27, 2020, 11:13:26 AM
UPDATE:   Federal Premium web site.

They have some stuff always available, .32ACP, .327Mag.  And usually once or twice a week they have 9mm and .38spl available you just have to keep checking.   I'm only looking for American Eagle, so it's easy for me to check.  Just refresh page and sort by "Available".

It's taking 3 weeks from order to my house.  Last order was 8/6 which arrived today.

Title: Re: Smoke'em if ya got'em...ammo availability
Post by: TAB on August 27, 2020, 11:50:40 AM
Cheapest m193 i can find is $.68/ shot


10 mm is 10 cents cheaper than 9 mm luger.   45 acp is 20 cents cheaper and its win white box.  Vs some brand i have never heard of.    I am glad i roll my own, and i have a good supple of everything other than 556.   Which i can not find brass for.   I have primers, powder and bullets.  Just only about 200 cases.  I gave away my brass when we moved as it was dirty needed tp be sorted amd i did not want to move it.   Other than a few odd balls/ hunting rifles i have 10k plus of factory and/ or my reloads of everything i would like to shoot.
Title: Re: Smoke'em if ya got'em...ammo availability
Post by: alfsauve on August 27, 2020, 02:24:55 PM
Primers are as unavailable as ammo right now.  Maybe more so.  Got a laugh on another forum when a guy said he was going to start reloading because of the ammo shortage.   Oops, that horse already left the barn buddy.

I've settled on reloads for practice and  factory ammo for matches.  My current ammo sponsor (me) doesn't pay very well, so on the highly unlikely event I win a match I could conceivably hit up the factory ammo company for sponsorship.  A shirt maybe?



Title: Re: Smoke'em if ya got'em...ammo availability
Post by: Majer on August 28, 2020, 08:41:55 AM
Cheapest m193 i can find is $.68/ shot

   I am glad i roll my own, and i have a good supple of everything other than 556.   Which i can not find brass for.   I have primers, powder and bullets.  Just only about 200 cases.
TAB, I got this in a email, might want to hurry it will go fast.
https://www.midsouthshooterssupply.com/dept/reloading/rifle-brass/223-remington?instock=true&trk_msg=12T85RGKT6S41F5LN8TU63GSPK&trk_contact=J2RR325KASKEF52TPND9MR6ABC&trk_sid=QBDQG6D56Q4NCF5MV59J45CBDK&utm_source=listrak&utm_medium=email&utm_term=turn+on+images+to+shop+in+stock+223+brass&utm_campaign=Reloading+Essentials+Just+For+You!
Title: Re: Smoke'em if ya got'em...ammo availability
Post by: les snyder on August 28, 2020, 10:17:25 AM
Alf... your new mantra....  Mark7 ,  Mark7 , Mark 7 
Title: Re: Smoke'em if ya got'em...ammo availability
Post by: alfsauve on August 28, 2020, 01:56:21 PM
Alf... your new mantra....  Mark7 ,  Mark7 , Mark 7

Federal Primers....hmmmm.    Federal Primers....hmmmm.   Federal Primers....hmmmmm.
Title: Re: Smoke'em if ya got'em...ammo availability
Post by: TAB on August 29, 2020, 01:59:10 PM
Found some!  Starline  556. Bought 3k pieces( all they had) at .22/ each.  Should be delivered  on the 5th
Title: Re: Smoke'em if ya got'em...ammo availability
Post by: tombogan03884 on August 29, 2020, 04:02:14 PM
Went on ammo seek yesterday     :o
Holy SHIT !.
Prices have doubled, or more.
9mm I paid $18 for is now $32, 357 magnum, $42 a box.
Hope you stocked up before because only a crazy person or REALLY ignorant new shooter will be paying that.
There is a bit of a silver lining though.
Dems claimed guns were easier to buy than books or veggies.
Well I've sure never seen a $40 cucumber.
Title: Re: Smoke'em if ya got'em...ammo availability
Post by: Rastus on August 31, 2020, 10:59:02 AM
Ammo is high everywhere Tom.  The only place it get's towards a reasonable price is if it's been on the shelf and has not been marked up over the last several months.  I had to pick up a prescription at the drug store the other day and scored a couple of boxes of .243 for $30 each.  All the new stuff is $50 and up.

That's right.  Our drug store sells ammo and guns.   https://hectorpharmacy.net/services.html (https://hectorpharmacy.net/services.html)

Pick your Poison is their motto....  Wait for it to pop up on their website.
Title: Re: Smoke'em if ya got'em...ammo availability
Post by: alfsauve on August 31, 2020, 11:17:44 AM

That's right.  Our drug store sells ammo and guns.   


You mean like this one in N. GA?

Title: Re: Smoke'em if ya got'em...ammo availability
Post by: Rastus on August 31, 2020, 11:42:17 AM
Yep.  I'd post a pic if I could....oops.  I guess I can.  Does anyone else have a forward thinking, progressive pharmacy as well?

Title: Re: Smoke'em if ya got'em...ammo availability
Post by: tombogan03884 on August 31, 2020, 02:34:10 PM
No, mine just sells drugs and alcohol.   ;D
Title: Re: Smoke'em if ya got'em...ammo availability
Post by: TAB on August 31, 2020, 03:31:16 PM
There use to be a store in rosvile ca that sold booze porn and ammo.  Its been closed for a long time but i remember going into it as a teen and getting kicked out.  Bought some ammo from them around 01-02
Title: Re: Smoke'em if ya got'em...ammo availability
Post by: Rastus on September 13, 2020, 09:00:48 AM
I bought a bunch of 22LR for 3.8 cents a round back a few months.  I think I'm going to sell off most of it at the next gun show.  The prices now are unbelievable...and people are paying it.
Title: Re: Smoke'em if ya got'em...ammo availability
Post by: PegLeg45 on September 13, 2020, 09:57:38 AM
I bought a bunch of 22LR for 3.8 cents a round back a few months.  I think I'm going to sell off most of it at the next gun show.  The prices now are unbelievable...and people are paying it.

The last I bought before it dried up was $25 a brick (.05 per round) for Aguila standard velocity 36 gr lead.
Title: Re: Smoke'em if ya got'em...ammo availability
Post by: billt on September 13, 2020, 10:13:44 AM
I am actually looking for 556 brass.  That is also double the price from starline.

Everglades Brass has 5.56 MM new brass for $59.00 for 250... Or $236.00 @ 1,000. They're out of stock right now on their Mil-Surp once fired brass. But when they have it, you can buy it cleaned, processed, resized, and ready to load for $85.00 per 500. I've actually gotten 1,000 for that price. But times being what they are, it's higher. You can have them E-Mail you when they get it in. They usually have fresh supplies coming in quite often.

https://www.evergladesammo.com/brass/223-new-brass.html
Title: Re: Smoke'em if ya got'em...ammo availability
Post by: alfsauve on September 24, 2020, 10:25:34 AM
Federal Premium just, I mean just, posted AE9AP, 124gr 9mm, available.  $0.40ea, high but available.  Get them while they're hot.   I'm waiting on the 147gr, AE8FPs
Title: Re: Smoke'em if ya got'em...ammo availability
Post by: billt on September 24, 2020, 11:28:27 AM
Posted where?
Title: Re: Smoke'em if ya got'em...ammo availability
Post by: alfsauve on September 24, 2020, 01:14:28 PM
Sorry, Federal Premium's web site.   You have to check it several times a day.   Over the course of each month they do seem to have some of each of their ammo available at least once.

https://www.federalpremium.com/handgun/ (https://www.federalpremium.com/handgun/)

Title: Re: Smoke'em if ya got'em...ammo availability
Post by: Timothy on September 27, 2020, 03:17:26 PM
Any small pistol primers anywhere?
Title: Re: Smoke'em if ya got'em...ammo availability
Post by: TAB on September 27, 2020, 06:00:47 PM
All components  are going to make ammo right now.
Title: Re: Smoke'em if ya got'em...ammo availability
Post by: MikeBjerum on September 27, 2020, 06:20:07 PM
Any small pistol primers anywhere?

In my cabinet of supplies  ;D
Title: Re: Smoke'em if ya got'em...ammo availability
Post by: billt on September 28, 2020, 12:43:18 AM
I think this shortage is going to last a lot longer than the others. Rioting is getting worse by the day. And if Trump and the Republicans clean house in November, they'll all go nuts because they'll feel they have nothing to lose. Hell, the radicals in Congress like AOC, are all but calling for it. They see this happening on the horizon...... And want it.
Title: Re: Smoke'em if ya got'em...ammo availability
Post by: Rastus on September 28, 2020, 08:00:01 AM
<snip> Hell, the radicals in Congress like AOC, are all but calling for it. They see this happening on the horizon...... And want it.

Right up to the point where they start getting their behinds kicked.  Then they will want a truce....good luck with that.
Title: Re: Smoke'em if ya got'em...ammo availability
Post by: PegLeg45 on September 28, 2020, 11:52:51 AM
Right up to the point where they start getting their behinds kicked.  Then they will want a truce....good luck with that.

Indeed so....nothing says, "Hold up on that car wash, gentlemen" like getting shot in the face when you weren't expecting it.
Title: Re: Smoke'em if ya got'em...ammo availability
Post by: Pathfinder on September 28, 2020, 04:20:56 PM
Right up to the point where they start getting their behinds kicked.  Then they will want a truce....good luck with that.

Don't be too sure about that:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SONBeUSnTts&ab_channel=AustinZone (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SONBeUSnTts&ab_channel=AustinZone)

A very interesting and uber-informative video of the tactics they are developing while we are here banging on our keyboards. Note that at the end the cops detained the DRIVER who was attacked. Granted, it's LA, still . . .

I remember saying some years ago here that the cops will NOT support the law-abiding who are defending themselves. They will protect their jobs and their pensions, at our expense. There will be a few who will quit, but that just makes room for more bad actor-types to be cops.

There're also the cops in Moscow, ID - freakin' IDAHO - who arrested 3 people at the mayor's orders for singing outside City Hall without masks. This after a BLM "protest" a week or so earlier in which NO ONE was arrested.

The progs are in mostly charge, and even if the mayor is a Constitutionalist, Soros has been buying DAs and AGs left, right and sideways.



PS: I need .300BLK in sub-sonic. PM me and I'll send you my address.   ;D  :o  :P  ;D
Title: Re: Smoke'em if ya got'em...ammo availability
Post by: tombogan03884 on September 29, 2020, 07:57:52 AM
That's why I have no more use for "Blue lives" fools than I do for BLM.
Some fat ass who would taze a lady for not wearing a mask deserves to get shot, and any one who has a problem with that can kiss my skinny white ass.
Title: Re: Smoke'em if ya got'em...ammo availability
Post by: J. Kennedy-ar154me on September 29, 2020, 07:59:29 AM
I think this shortage is going to last a lot longer than the others. Rioting is getting worse by the day. And if Trump and the Republicans clean house in November, they'll all go nuts because they'll feel they have nothing to lose. Hell, the radicals in Congress like AOC, are all but calling for it. They see this happening on the horizon...... And want it.

And if Biden wins through fraud I feel a lot of conservatives will be fed up to the point to start shooting. (IMHO)
Title: Re: Smoke'em if ya got'em...ammo availability
Post by: TAB on October 07, 2020, 01:56:07 PM
Any 10 mm sd ammo out there? Normally i carry gold dots, but i can not find any.  Any recommendations  on what elae to look for?
Title: Re: Smoke'em if ya got'em...ammo availability
Post by: tombogan03884 on October 07, 2020, 02:01:30 PM
Last time I checked Ammo seek it was cheaper than 9MM.
Title: Re: Smoke'em if ya got'em...ammo availability
Post by: les snyder on October 07, 2020, 08:25:35 PM
bought myself a birthday present... ok, two... to help me add to the .22lr shortages... a Holosun 507c for the M41, and a 510c for the 10/22... I am becoming a fanboy of the Holosun line...

the Trijicon RMR2 that I put on the house G17 in the Recover Tactical brace is 1 year on the  battery.... the RMR2 is constant on.... will change it out next week

regards
Title: Re: Smoke'em if ya got'em...ammo availability
Post by: Rastus on October 18, 2020, 08:24:32 PM
Any 10 mm sd ammo out there? Normally i carry gold dots, but i can not find any.  Any recommendations  on what elae to look for?

www.doubletapammo.com
 (http://www.doubletapammo.com)

They have full power 10MM.  I first bought from Mike 15 or so years ago.  Somehow in the order process I had stated I had a Kimber EclipseII and he threw in a heavy spring at no charge and said it would add life to the gun.  So...I'm sold on them and their product...which is a good full power like it ought to be product.
Title: Re: Smoke'em if ya got'em...ammo availability
Post by: Big Frank on November 21, 2020, 06:22:43 AM
Got a little side distraction today.  I set one of my monitors on the security cameras (4 of them) that used to give a view of our north truck lot and exterior of the shop.  Now they just show the inside of our new freezer that is under construction (25,000 sq ft).  I have watched footings, foundation walls, five feet of compacted fill, steel framework, insulated panels, couldn't watch roof because cameras are aimed down, and glycol lines all going on.  Monday I turned the system on and saw that they had poured the grout on Saturday.  Tuesday and Wednesday were spent laying vapor barrier and foam board, and setting tube forms around all the uprights to isolate them from the slab.  Today they came in with the laser screed and riding finishers.  This is the first time I have watched a laser screed in operation, and it is damn impressive.

Jump to about the three minute point for the action:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=65YL4f2jIGY

They started pumping about 0830, and when I left at 1600, they were about 2/3 done with the pour and screed, the three riders were following very close, and the final finish rider was almost to the half way point.  Tomorrow I will look at the replay to see when they finished.  925 yards poured and finished in one day!  Not rough finish, this is glass smooth.

I said "WOW" to our CFO on my way out the door this afternoon, and he said schedule is for the boom lift and scissor lifts to be in on Monday to start running refrigerant lines and hanging units.  Once the units are hung, the racking will be stacked in, the final wall sections will be put in, and the building will be sealed for the final installations.

I've never seen a laser screed before or even heard of one. Now I know what they do when they don't use a long 2x4. :) The drone work was pretty good too. When it pulled way back it looked like a bunch of bugs at work and the ride-on trowels reminded me of water bugs flitting around the surface of a pond.
Title: Re: Smoke'em if ya got'em...ammo availability
Post by: Big Frank on November 21, 2020, 06:52:03 AM
A few days ago I saw one place that had 5.56mm ammo for sale. 200-round belts of M855 in SAW boxes. If you don't have anything belt-fed it may be time to get a new upper and a magazine adaptor, or buy a de-linker and get busy.
Title: Re: Smoke'em if ya got'em...ammo availability
Post by: tombogan03884 on November 21, 2020, 08:18:16 AM
Should be fun.
But the AR 15 isn't heavy enough to hold up.
I've wondered if it would hold up better if the belt feed mechanism were built on an AR 10 upper chambered for 5.56.
All the working bits would be in the upper and could therefore be of heavier construction than the standard rifle.
Title: Re: Smoke'em if ya got'em...ammo availability
Post by: alfsauve on November 21, 2020, 11:03:37 AM
Visited a number of stores yesterday.

10mm, 32Long and 32S&W were the calibers that were available.   I should have gotten the .32S&W for my Lemon Squeezer.

Title: Re: Smoke'em if ya got'em...ammo availability
Post by: Big Frank on November 21, 2020, 04:39:27 PM
I sometimes get mixed up and may not have the facts right, but a few days ago I think I read that Federal had $1 Billion dollars worth of ammo back-ordered and it will take them over a year to make it. Maybe it was $1.5 Billion but I think I got the rest right. Some people say you only use 10% of your brain but I'm using 100% of mine. I almost got my cell phone number memorized but forgot my social security number at the same time.

ETA: ^ That may not have even been Federal I read about.  Last month I was looking for pistol ammo at Midway and they had 1 kind of ammo for .45 ACP. I can't remember if that was all the pistol ammo they had at all, or just all they had in the calibers that I was looking at. That may have been all of it.
Title: Re: Smoke'em if ya got'em...ammo availability
Post by: Big Frank on November 21, 2020, 04:48:36 PM
Vista Outdoor Back Ordered to the tune of $1 Billion.

Vista Outdoor, owner of the Federal, CCI, Speer, and Remington brands of ammunition, announced that they have back orders that extend over a year, and amount to over a billion dollars of orders at wholesale cost.

I didn't read it yet but saw the headline.

https://www.gunnuts.net/2020/11/13/vista-outdoor-back-ordered-to-the-tune-of-1-billion/


I knew I wasn't imaging this.
Title: Re: Smoke'em if ya got'em...ammo availability
Post by: TAB on November 22, 2020, 10:13:46 PM
I am not shocked.   When can had freedom week they bought the country  out of mags.  That is only a small % of the population.  Now it is about 50% of the population is buying guns/ ammo.

I have not bought any ammo in a long time, but did buy a couple of used guns
Title: Re: Smoke'em if ya got'em...ammo availability
Post by: tombogan03884 on November 23, 2020, 08:33:05 AM
Vista Outdoor Back Ordered to the tune of $1 Billion.

Vista Outdoor, owner of the Federal, CCI, Speer, and Remington brands of ammunition, announced that they have back orders that extend over a year, and amount to over a billion dollars of orders at wholesale cost.

I didn't read it yet but saw the headline.

https://www.gunnuts.net/2020/11/13/vista-outdoor-back-ordered-to-the-tune-of-1-billion/


I knew I wasn't imaging this.
 

F#ck Obama, WE built that.    ;D
Title: Re: Smoke'em if ya got'em...ammo availability
Post by: alfsauve on November 23, 2020, 10:21:27 AM
Federal includes not just all the Federal brands for ammo, but their primers and the Alliant brand of powder.  (Think Bullseye, Unique, Power Pistol, etc.)

CCI includes the Blazer brand.

Remington could be a black hole.  Their primer production wasn't doing to well to begin with, then the Flu and the bankruptcy.  In order to keep the Remington ammo brand alive Vista might have to utilize Federal and CCI primers. 

All told, buy when you can, hoard what you can.  It's going to be a long dry 2021.
Title: Re: Smoke'em if ya got'em...ammo availability
Post by: alfsauve on November 23, 2020, 10:40:09 AM
And if you haven't seen Powder Valley's article on the subject.

https://www.powdervalleyinc.com/why-is-there-a-primer-supply-shortage/ (https://www.powdervalleyinc.com/why-is-there-a-primer-supply-shortage/)

Title: Re: Smoke'em if ya got'em...ammo availability
Post by: Rastus on November 24, 2020, 07:31:51 AM
Good article.
Title: Re: Smoke'em if ya got'em...ammo availability
Post by: billt on November 24, 2020, 08:30:08 AM
"In the U.S., only four companies (Winchester, Remington, Federal, and CCI) manufacture primers for civilian use, law enforcement, and the military."

Worldwide there are also these 3...

https://ammoterra.com/primers-manufacturer-makers

Plus Fiocchi, along with Wolf in Russia also manufacturers them. Graf & Sons, Widener's, and Powder Valley all sell them. And I know Cheddite makes shotgun primers for reloaders. A lot of trapshooters use them.
Title: Re: Smoke'em if ya got'em...ammo availability
Post by: alfsauve on November 24, 2020, 09:25:21 AM

Other primer manufacturers:

And Volga makes cars but I ain't buyin' them. 
Title: Re: Smoke'em if ya got'em...ammo availability
Post by: billt on November 24, 2020, 09:58:06 AM
Fiocchi has been making primers and ammo 40 years longer than Federal.
Title: Re: Smoke'em if ya got'em...ammo availability
Post by: alfsauve on November 24, 2020, 11:37:02 AM
Have never been able to find any Fiocchi primers for sale locally.  And of course right now, nada anyway.

I was really referring to the  Wolf and Eastern European stuff.  Not buying their ammo, not buying their primers.

BTB, on the subject of Fiocchi, had 3 squibs in 1,000rd box.  I let them know.  They were most apologetic and want to replace the whole lot.
Title: Re: Smoke'em if ya got'em...ammo availability
Post by: Pathfinder on November 24, 2020, 02:45:10 PM
Just found a place where they had .300BLK allegedly in stock. 150gr, wait-list for the 220gr I wanted.

https://www.gorillaammo.com/ (https://www.gorillaammo.com/)

I asked at one of the local gunshops and they said they shoot it (former Marine) so I ordered a bucket - 175 rounds for $250 including shipping. Not great, but better than the $50.00 for a box of 20 of Rem green/white box I saw at the same gunshop.

Title: Re: Smoke'em if ya got'em...ammo availability
Post by: Majer on November 24, 2020, 05:18:18 PM
During the last primer shortage I bought a brick of Fiochi Small pistol primers,They came 1500 in a brick which priced them about $27.00/1000 compared to the $38.00/1000 for Federal,Winchester I normally use. They all went bang and seated smoothly on the brass.I would definitely buy them again if I found them.
Title: Re: Smoke'em if ya got'em...ammo availability
Post by: billt on November 25, 2020, 02:54:55 AM
During the last primer shortage I bought a brick of Fiochi Small pistol primers,They came 1500 in a brick which priced them about $27.00/1000 compared to the $38.00/1000 for Federal,Winchester I normally use. They all went bang and seated smoothly on the brass.I would definitely buy them again if I found them.

Same here. I've had very good luck with Fiocchi ammo and primers over the years. The only Wolf I shoot is 7.62 X 39 MM out of my AK's. And they all run good on it. Wolf primers tend to be a bit on the hard side. They'll fire fine in AK's, but I've seen them cause misfires in Mini-14's chambered in 7.62 X 39 MM.
Title: Re: Smoke'em if ya got'em...ammo availability
Post by: tombogan03884 on November 25, 2020, 08:03:30 AM
Local Range uses Fiochi, never had any trouble.
Title: Re: Smoke'em if ya got'em...ammo availability
Post by: Big Frank on November 26, 2020, 02:18:47 AM
Just found a place where they had .300BLK allegedly in stock. 150gr, wait-list for the 220gr I wanted.

https://www.gorillaammo.com/ (https://www.gorillaammo.com/)

I asked at one of the local gunshops and they said they shoot it (former Marine) so I ordered a bucket - 175 rounds for $250 including shipping. Not great, but better than the $50.00 for a box of 20 of Rem green/white box I saw at the same gunshop.

I've heard of Gorilla Ammo but know even less about them than I do Detroit Ammo, which isn't a lot. Detroit Ammo Co. calls themselves Your Source for Custom Ammunition from American Manufacturers and says they have ammo in stock. They have 12.7x42mm, the generic equivalent of .50 Beowulf, 85gr Lehigh Xtreme Cavitator ammo for .30 Carbine, and some reloading components including the 176gr Lehigh subsonic .308 Controlled Fracturing bullet, among other things. These are both unusual looking bullets, but what do you expect from Lehigh? Some ammo is on sale including .500 S&W Magnum shotshells loaded with 300 grains of #12 shot. I've used .22 LR and .22 WMR with #12 shot but never seen it in such a large caliber. CCI usually loads #9 shot in other calibers but also sells light loads of #4 in some of them. BTW, in case you didn't already know it, #13 shot is also called dust, and #12 isn't much bigger.

https://detroitammoco.com/

I got an email from TacPlaceLLC that says save $10 off each case of ammo until the end of the day Friday November 27th. Use code 10OFFTURKEY. I don't think I ever heard of them, but if they have cases of ammo and they're $10 off, it's worth looking into. They say, "If something is sold out, or you don't see what you want. Please come back tomorrow, as we upload new ammo daily. We offer fast and affordable shipping, as well as special deals for signing up for our ammo club email!" All I see right now is Barnaul from Russia in a half-dozen calibers, with polymer-coated steel cases and non-corrosive Berdan primers. 123gr 7.62X39mm FMJ is $210/500, 115 grain 9mm FMJ is $285/500, and 62-Grain .223 Remington JSP is $350/500rds. They have 145gr .300 Blackout FMJ at a price I wouldn't want to pay, and the cheapest ammo is 60 Grain 5.45x39mm.

https://www.shootammo.com/
Title: Re: Smoke'em if ya got'em...ammo availability
Post by: billt on November 26, 2020, 05:10:37 AM
I think all of the specialty and gimmick ammo companies will always have ammo in stock. Because the cost of some of this stuff is off the chart. And their uses are extremely limited. And a lot of it won't run in semi autos very well. It is the high volume ammunition that is, and will continue to be hard to get, or else all but non existent for a long time to come.
Title: Re: Smoke'em if ya got'em...ammo availability
Post by: Big Frank on November 26, 2020, 06:41:57 AM
All of the Barnaul ammo should run in the semi-autos and full autos it was made for. Give it until next August and we should see more of the regular ammo on the shelves too, but the price won't be close to what it was before.
Title: Re: Smoke'em if ya got'em...ammo availability
Post by: Timothy on December 06, 2020, 03:36:15 PM
Just left the BPS here in Foxboro and I have only two words on ammo and gun availability!

Bup kis!
Title: Re: Smoke'em if ya got'em...ammo availability
Post by: TAB on December 23, 2020, 11:58:43 AM
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Title: Re: Smoke'em if ya got'em...ammo availability
Post by: Big Frank on December 24, 2020, 08:28:37 PM
Fiocchi Shooting Dynamics Rifle 223A $39.99    https://www.mysmokinguns.com/products/ammo-fiocchi-223a-762344704968-3449

Frontier Cartridge FR200   Email for price.   https://www.mysmokinguns.com/products/ammo-hornady-fr200-090255711394-3449

They say they had Winchester Repeating Arms USA556L1. Loose ammo packaged in 100 round packages $0.60 CPR yesterday but are out now. 
https://www.mysmokinguns.com/products/ammo-winchester-repeating-arms-usa556l1-020892225008-3449?ct=t(GunsNAmmo-Oct17_COPY_02)&mc_cid=73cfabb1ed&mc_eid=8ce452b608
Title: Re: Smoke'em if ya got'em...ammo availability
Post by: Big Frank on December 30, 2020, 10:54:22 PM
To say thank you for being our customer in 2020
we are giving our loyal customers $15 off each case purchased.
12/31/20 until midnight 1/3/2021
use code NEWYEAR15
at checkout to get $15 off per case.

THEY HAVE .22 LR IN STOCK HERE.

https://www.shootammo.com/collections/all?page=1
Title: Re: Smoke'em if ya got'em...ammo availability
Post by: billt on December 30, 2020, 11:48:25 PM
To say thank you for being our customer in 2020
we are giving our loyal customers $15 off each case purchased.
12/31/20 until midnight 1/3/2021
use code NEWYEAR15
at checkout to get $15 off per case.

THEY HAVE .22 LR IN STOCK HERE.

https://www.shootammo.com/collections/all?page=1

37 cents each for .22's. ($18.50 @ box of 50). This world is fast accelerating well beyond fucked up!
Title: Re: Smoke'em if ya got'em...ammo availability
Post by: Big Frank on December 31, 2020, 12:28:54 AM
I think I still have a brick or 2 of Wildcat-22 I bought on sale for 99 cents a box, 2 cents a round. That was a little over 20 years ago IIRC, so it needs to be used before the newer ammo. That should be easier to do now that I have a 110-round drum for my 10/22.

https://www.gsg-waffen.com/site/index.php/en/accessories-en/rotary-en
Title: Re: Smoke'em if ya got'em...ammo availability
Post by: billt on December 31, 2020, 12:58:17 AM
My best rimfire ammo score were these Federal 550 round Bulk Packs for just $8.88 at Wal-Mart, back in the mid 90's. My neighbor down the street and I ended up buying several thousand rounds each. (There was no limit). Shortly afterward he passed away, and his son had no interest in guns, so I ended up with double the amount. I'm still shooting them.

(https://i.imgur.com/WdKGVGp.jpg)
Title: Re: Smoke'em if ya got'em...ammo availability
Post by: Big Frank on December 31, 2020, 08:36:06 AM
1.6 cents a round?!??!!??? :o Wow, Bill! You hit the jackpot. Bill, my bestest friend in the whole wide world who loves to share ammo. ;D
Title: Re: Smoke'em if ya got'em...ammo availability
Post by: alfsauve on December 31, 2020, 01:28:23 PM
LGS posted today (Cherokee County, GA)  Expensive?  Yes.  Available? Yes.

Title: Re: Smoke'em if ya got'em...ammo availability
Post by: MikeBjerum on December 31, 2020, 02:41:08 PM
(https://i.imgur.com/WdKGVGp.jpg)

I still have about six cartons I purchased for the same price at local stores in the early 2000's.  I need to look at what I had last paid for the last few thousand rounds of CCI's for my competition gun, but if it had been this butt hurt I wouldn't have bought them.
Title: Re: Smoke'em if ya got'em...ammo availability
Post by: Big Frank on December 31, 2020, 07:51:04 PM
I think we'll be asking this at least until late spring.
Title: Re: Smoke'em if ya got'em...ammo availability
Post by: Big Frank on January 17, 2021, 01:54:37 PM
I just got an email from a place that has ammo in stock. Besides having a few of the usual suspects, they have .17 Mach 2, 5mm RFM, .218 Bee, 6mm Norma BR, .30-378 Weatherby Mag, 8mm Lebel Revolver, 33 Nosler, 9.3X62mm, .375 Ruger, .376 Steyr, .404 Jeffery, .450-400 N.E 3 inch AKA .400 Jeffery N.E., .416 Rigby, .416 Rem Mag, .416 Ruger, .500-416 N.E., .458 Win Mag, .458 Lott, .450 Rigby, .450 Nitro Express 3.25 inch, .470 N.E., and .500 N.E.. But mostly they have a wide variety of snap caps, plus plenty of choices in 10, 12, 20, and 28 gauge ammo.

https://globalordnance.com/ammunition/
Title: Re: Smoke'em if ya got'em...ammo availability
Post by: tombogan03884 on January 17, 2021, 04:26:48 PM
In other words "The odd ball crap no one but a collector would be interested in".
Classic Arms the same, "NEW DELIVERY, JUST IN !  one listing for Tulammo .45 and a shit load of 12 Ga.
Title: Re: Smoke'em if ya got'em...ammo availability
Post by: Big Frank on January 18, 2021, 06:43:14 AM
They have leftovers like everyone else, so there wasn't a huge variety to choose from in things like typical hunting and pistol calibers. But other than a ton of shotgun and dangerous game ammo, there was also 5.56mm/.223, some .308 and 300 BLK, and Tula Ammo in "normal" calibers. Not all oddball stuff, but not like back when you could walk into a gun store and buy nearly any caliber you wanted either. These are the times we live in.

As long as people are willing to pay stupid high prices for ammo, other people will sell it for stupid high prices. It will start coming down later this year when the shelves start to fill up (and almost immediately empty out again I imagine) but it still won't be anywhere near the old "normal" for a long time, if ever. It is what it is.
Title: Re: Smoke'em if ya got'em...ammo availability
Post by: TAB on January 19, 2021, 04:56:05 PM
Bought a brick of yellow jackets  today for 59.99.    I figured  why not. More than I thought it should be, but who knows if they even are going to make them.  Never the most accurate and didn't feed in everything, but they do a lot of damage when you hit something
Title: Re: Smoke'em if ya got'em...ammo availability
Post by: Dirty Bob on January 20, 2021, 10:31:37 AM
I recently found a Wally World with a few of the 20ga. Federal bulk packs (100 rounds each). I bought two and wish I'd bought more. My cost before taxes was $0.23/round, which I consider a bargain these days, even for #7-1/2 shot low-brass 20ga.

At this point, buying ammo when you find it at a good price is like buying gold when it was $200/ounce. There's only one direction the price can go, at least for the next coupla' years. I don't have an AK, but I wish I'd bought a stack of AK mags and 7.62x39mm ammo when they were super-cheap and available everywhere. Oh, well.
Title: Smoke'em if ya got'em...everyman has his price...
Post by: Rastus on January 25, 2021, 08:20:00 PM
Every man has his price.  I found mine....500 rounds of 22 LR at an unbelievable $XXX.XX...you gotta see it to believe it  I'm not kidding...take a look:

https://www.the-armory.com/shopsite_sc/store/html/product1239.html (https://www.the-armory.com/shopsite_sc/store/html/product1239.html)

Title: Re: Smoke'em if ya got'em...everyman has his price...
Post by: TAB on January 25, 2021, 09:35:36 PM
Every man has his price.  I found mine....500 rounds of 22 LR at an unbelievable $XXX.XX...you gotta see it to believe it  I'm not kidding...take a look:

https://www.the-armory.com/shopsite_sc/store/html/product1239.html (https://www.the-armory.com/shopsite_sc/store/html/product1239.html)
if some one is willing to pay it, more power too them.   I just will remember  to not buy from them. 

If I could get primers I would go shooting about twice a week.  I just can not get them and don't expect to be able too any time soon.  No point in shooting up my supply of ammo if there is no hope of replacing it.
Title: Re: Smoke'em if ya got'em...everyman has his price...
Post by: tombogan03884 on January 26, 2021, 10:02:19 AM
if some one is willing to pay it, more power too them.   I just will remember  to not buy from them. 

If I could get primers I would go shooting about twice a week.  I just can not get them and don't expect to be able too any time soon.  No point in shooting up my supply of ammo if there is no hope of replacing it.

Might need it for the neighbors.    ;D
Title: Re: Smoke'em if ya got'em...ammo availability
Post by: Dirty Bob on January 26, 2021, 02:41:09 PM
Just so ya' know, colibrí is the Spanish word for hummingbird. Águila (eagle, BTW) makes their Colibri as a very low-powered .22LR ammo. They even caution against shooting it from long barrels, as it may or may not make it to the muzzle. Super Colibri has a pinch of powder. I've used that on squirrels at close range. A grand for a brick of Colibri? Buy an airgun and save a lot of money. I have words in Spanish I'd use, but I'm tryin' to keep this family friendly.

Anyone paying $1,000 for this stuff and thinking it's regular .22LR ammo is gonna be real disappointed! This is like the definition of caveat emptor.
Title: Re: Smoke'em if ya got'em...ammo availability
Post by: alfsauve on January 27, 2021, 09:52:49 AM
Air Gun:  Yeah, one of the ones gaining favor is the Umarex Gauntlet PCP.   $325 from Pyramid Air in .25 caliber.  I've got 2 springers in .22 which are good for squirrels, rats and chips out to 20 yds.  Bunnies closer.   The .25 would up the range and give me raccoon  stopping power in the back yard.

https://www.pyramydair.com/s/m/Umarex_Gauntlet_PCP_Air_Rifle_Synthetic_Stock/4311 (https://www.pyramydair.com/s/m/Umarex_Gauntlet_PCP_Air_Rifle_Synthetic_Stock/4311)

Title: Re: Smoke'em if ya got'em...ammo availability
Post by: tombogan03884 on January 27, 2021, 10:21:33 AM
Just so ya' know, colibrí is the Spanish word for hummingbird. Aguila (eagle, BTW) makes their Colibri as a very low-powered .22LR ammo. They even caution against shooting it from long barrels, as it may or may not make it to the muzzle. Super Colibri has a pinch of powder. I've used that on squirrels at close range. A grand for a brick of Colibri? Buy an airgun and save a lot of money. I have words in Spanish I'd use, but I'm tryin' to keep this family friendly.

This is what I meant, the ORIGINAL Hummingbird   ;D

This or a Barrett, no in between   
This should work better


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=THsDpGJcpk8

Title: Re: Smoke'em if ya got'em...ammo availability
Post by: PegLeg45 on January 27, 2021, 12:27:57 PM
Just so ya' know, colibrí is the Spanish word for hummingbird. Águila (eagle, BTW) makes their Colibri as a very low-powered .22LR ammo. They even caution against shooting it from long barrels, as it may or may not make it to the muzzle. Super Colibri has a pinch of powder. I've used that on squirrels at close range. A grand for a brick of Colibri? Buy an airgun and save a lot of money. I have words in Spanish I'd use, but I'm tryin' to keep this family friendly.

Anyone paying $1,000 for this stuff and thinking it's regular .22LR ammo is gonna be real disappointed! This is like the definition of caveat emptor.

Maybe I need to move my Aguila standard velocity stuff to a "safer" location......looks like it's now more valuable than gold (at least in the eyes of idiots).  ;D ;D ;D

I only paid $24 for a brick back in September.

I might need to buy a bigger safe for my CCI stuff.  8)
Title: Re: Smoke'em if ya got'em...ammo availability
Post by: TAB on January 27, 2021, 01:07:54 PM
Its sad when the price of the ammo exceeds the price of the mag by double.  Thats what it is with 223/556 and pmags right now.
Title: Re: Smoke'em if ya got'em...ammo availability
Post by: tombogan03884 on January 27, 2021, 02:40:45 PM
Its sad when the price of the ammo exceeds the price of the mag by double.  Thats what it is with 223/556 and pmags right now.

Hell, Rastus's .22 LR cost more than a couple of the guns.
Title: Re: Smoke'em if ya got'em...ammo availability
Post by: Rastus on January 27, 2021, 06:35:04 PM
Yeah...I paid like $350-375 for 10k rounds of 22LR back in Dec. 2019.  I'll sell it for $20k...heck, I'll go $15k for 10,000 rounds.  For $17.5k I'll drive over and deliver it where it's legal.  It's still in the boxes of 5,000.  I need to pay for a new heating and cooling unit and some tile in the new place.
Title: Re: Smoke'em if ya got'em...ammo availability
Post by: tombogan03884 on January 27, 2021, 07:19:59 PM
Buy precious metals they said,
They can only go up they said,
Then they F'ed  it all up by going with Gold and Silver instead of Lead, Brass and Aluminum   ;D
Title: Re: Smoke'em if ya got'em...ammo availability
Post by: PegLeg45 on January 27, 2021, 07:27:32 PM
Got a notice form a local area shop today saying they got two pallets of steel-cased Tula in .223 and 7.62x39.
The .223 is $10 a box (.50 cents per round) with a five box per customer limit and the 7.62 stuff is $20 per 40rd box with a two box per customer limit.

The shop is about forty miles away in the middle of a little crossroads town and a couple weeks ago someone posted a video showing folks lined up nearly a 1/8 mile down the street because only five people at a time can go in (three hour wait to get in). No way in hades my back would ever hold up that long.
Title: Re: Smoke'em if ya got'em...ammo availability
Post by: tombogan03884 on January 27, 2021, 07:42:59 PM
Got a notice form a local area shop today saying they got two pallets of steel-cased Tula in .223 and 7.62x39.
The .223 is $10 a box (.50 cents per round) with a five box per customer limit and the 7.62 stuff is $20 per 40rd box with a two box per customer limit.

The shop is about forty miles away in the middle of a little crossroads town and a couple weeks ago someone posted a video showing folks lined up nearly a 1/8 mile down the street because only five people at a time can go in (three hour wait to get in). No way in hades my back would ever hold up that long.

Call them up.
They may be able to do something.
Delivery, skip the line, something.
If you get to skip the line you might not want your prosthesis, jumped conclusions and all.   ;D
Title: Re: Smoke'em if ya got'em...ammo availability
Post by: PegLeg45 on January 28, 2021, 12:11:43 PM
Call them up.
They may be able to do something.
Delivery, skip the line, something.
If you get to skip the line you might not want your prosthesis, jumped conclusions and all.   ;D

They are such a small family shop and so busy that actually getting through by phone is nothing short of miraculous.

Your last line made me think of this guy....funny I just saw it yesterday.  ;D ;D
Title: Re: Smoke'em if ya got'em...ammo availability
Post by: TAB on January 28, 2021, 12:47:34 PM
They are such a small family shop and so busy that actually getting through by phone is nothing short of miraculous.

Your last line made me think of this guy....funny I just saw it yesterday.  ;D ;D


Speaking  of that. My mom gets hers today at 1.   She had 2 prototypes.   The guy that built it has come to her house 4 times  now.   It cracks me up, he says your insurance/ Medicare  pays for X, but we know they don't last that long so hers x+ 1 or 2.

Like suspesion sleeves. They pay before 2.  He said most people get 3-6 months with them.  Here is 4, if you need a 5th just call.  We don't ever want some one to not have something.   The misses use to work at shriners sacramento.  Turns out she knows the guy, he  made all the really exotic  stuff for the kids there. 


I have no complaints
Title: Re: Smoke'em if ya got'em...ammo availability
Post by: tombogan03884 on January 28, 2021, 10:43:26 PM
Speaking  of that. My mom gets hers today at 1.   She had 2 prototypes.   The guy that built it has come to her house 4 times  now.   It cracks me up, he says your insurance/ Medicare  pays for X, but we know they don't last that long so hers x+ 1 or 2.

Like suspesion sleeves. They pay before 2.  He said most people get 3-6 months with them.  Here is 4, if you need a 5th just call.  We don't ever want some one to not have something.   The misses use to work at shriners sacramento.  Turns out she knows the guy, he  made all the really exotic  stuff for the kids there. 


I have no complaints

Wicked glad to hear that.
Title: Re: Smoke'em if ya got'em...ammo availability
Post by: TAB on January 29, 2021, 12:38:43 PM
Wicked glad to hear that.

Its funny how  small the world is some times.  She did not remember  the name until she saw his face.  I talked to him on the phone a bit and he remembered  the misses.  Kind of hard not too.  Not too many tall redheads that are docs ;D

Some days I wonder why the hell she said yes.  It certainly wasn't for my looks, money or personality.  I am ugly, was in the hole almost 1 mill when we met and I am a jerk.
Title: Re: Smoke'em if ya got'em...ammo availability
Post by: alfsauve on January 29, 2021, 03:04:07 PM
Its sad when the price of the ammo exceeds the price of the mag by double.  Thats what it is with 223/556 and pmags right now.

Revolvers:  non-sequitur

Sig Saur:  Seen the price of our mags lately?


I just realized with what all my Sig mags cost I could buy another pistol.   But then I'd just need more mags.  Oh the viscous circle.
Title: Re: Smoke'em if ya got'em...ammo availability
Post by: tombogan03884 on January 29, 2021, 06:22:02 PM

Some days I wonder why the hell she said yes.  It certainly wasn't for my looks, money or personality.  I am ugly, was in the hole almost 1 mill when we met and I am a jerk.

Take my advice  BTDT.
Do what ever it takes to make her happy .
And TELL her, apparently they like to hear it out loud.
From one jerk to another, that isn't what I did so it will probably work.   :D
To paraphrase Tuco, "If you got a keeper, KEEP HER"        ;D
Had to add that.    ;D  ;D
Title: Re: Smoke'em if ya got'em...ammo availability
Post by: J. Kennedy-ar154me on February 01, 2021, 08:51:09 AM
Take my advice  BTDT.
To paraphrase Tuco, "If you got a keeper, KEEP HER"        ;D
Had to add that.    ;D  ;D

^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
WHAT HE SAID.

I am very lucky that my wife said yes. I take every opportunity to tell her. "Happy wife, happy life".
Title: Re: Smoke'em if ya got'em...ammo availability
Post by: tombogan03884 on February 01, 2021, 09:20:44 AM
Sometimes learning by experience really sucks.
Title: Re: Smoke'em if ya got'em...ammo availability
Post by: Rastus on February 21, 2021, 09:43:23 AM
Reasonable 308 available at Wideners:
https://www.wideners.com/rifle/308-ammo (https://www.wideners.com/rifle/308-ammo)
Title: Re: Smoke'em if ya got'em...ammo availability
Post by: TAB on February 22, 2021, 10:51:00 AM
Take my advice  BTDT.
Do what ever it takes to make her happy .
And TELL her, apparently they like to hear it out loud.
From one jerk to another, that isn't what I did so it will probably work.   :D
To paraphrase Tuco, "If you got a keeper, KEEP HER"        ;D
Had to add that.    ;D  ;D

Well I am not really ugly, and I have had a 6 pack most of my life.  Everything else is true.  Well ok I am not really a jerk, but I do a damn fine job of hiding that I am a nice guy.
Title: Re: Smoke'em if ya got'em...ammo availability
Post by: tombogan03884 on February 22, 2021, 05:43:51 PM
Well I am not really ugly, and I have had a 6 pack most of my life.  Everything else is true.  Well ok I am not really a jerk, but I do a damn fine job of hiding that I am a nice guy.


 :o   NO.
Who would have guessed ?   ::)  ;D  ;D  ;D
Title: Re: Smoke'em if ya got'em...ammo availability
Post by: PegLeg45 on February 24, 2021, 04:38:46 PM
PSA emailed me advertising 200 rd packs of 5.56 for $160........ it lasted about as long as a fart in a hurricane. Click on the link and gone baby gone.
Title: Re: Smoke'em if ya got'em...ammo availability
Post by: TAB on February 26, 2021, 12:36:53 PM
I found primers!  They were 80/1000

Nope
Title: Re: Smoke'em if ya got'em...ammo availability
Post by: Rastus on February 26, 2021, 01:05:38 PM
I think we've seen the bottom for now.  That doesn't mean that when bad news comes out of Washington it won't get worse than it is now.
Title: Re: Smoke'em if ya got'em...ammo availability
Post by: PegLeg45 on February 26, 2021, 07:12:34 PM
Powder Valley had some projectiles for reloading yesterday and some shotgun powder. When they do have reloading stuff, it is usually at regular prices like Winchester powder for $24 per pound. I ordered some .308 Sierra Gameking bullets for $30 per hundred which is not much more than the last time I ordered. Stuff like Berger bullets are high, but they were high before.
They actually had some 9mm FMJ which is rare as hens teeth....ONLY $46 per 50 rds.

By the time I get email notifications the supply is gone.
I read on the Brownells FB group page where people are actually using Apps/Bots to auto order as soon as notifications are out from suppliers.

My son was in the local walmart one morning after getting off duty just checking on ammo a while back. They had got a shipment in the night before and one guy was in there buying it ALL....as in two shopping buggies full. My son was like, "Hey, all I want is a box or two of .30-06" and the guy wouldn't come off any. My son asked the manager how the guy just happened to know they had all that ammo and how much he was making off the deal for letting him know....and what about walmart having a 2 box limit per purchase etc. The manager persuaded the guy to let go of a couple boxes.
I calculate they were in on it to gouge on the net for some of it.

Title: Re: Smoke'em if ya got'em...ammo availability
Post by: tombogan03884 on February 26, 2021, 07:48:50 PM
Only thing you can do is log into your ammo search engine of choice and instantly buy the first deal at the top of the list, it's going to be the most recent.    :(
Title: Re: Smoke'em if ya got'em...ammo availability
Post by: alfsauve on February 27, 2021, 09:55:40 AM
LGS is getting one pallet a month now from the mid-east.  Iguana. Igna? Something or nother. 60 cents a round no limit.  I won't buy it but I encourage everybody else to.  I also don't do Privi party or Tula bankhead stuff either.  I'll wait for the USA brands.
Title: Re: Smoke'em if ya got'em...ammo availability
Post by: Majer on February 27, 2021, 11:27:28 AM
I found a box of UMC 9mm Ball that I had, looked at the price tag, $7.99 for 50, date on tag is 7/14/99. Showed it to my wife and told her I could probably get $60.00 for it now. She asked why don't I sell it,Told her I couldn't replace it for that.Ah,The good old days of cheap ammo.
Title: Re: Smoke'em if ya got'em...ammo availability
Post by: TAB on February 27, 2021, 01:06:17 PM
I found a box of UMC 9mm Ball that I had, looked at the price tag, $7.99 for 50, date on tag is 7/14/99. Showed it to my wife and told her I could probably get $60.00 for it now. She asked why don't I sell it,Told her I couldn't replace it for that.Ah,The good old days of cheap ammo.

I remember  in the very early 2k. I could buy win white box in 45 for around 5.50/ 50 if I bought 1000 rounds.
Title: Re: Smoke'em if ya got'em...ammo availability
Post by: billt on February 27, 2021, 01:42:32 PM
I can't count the CCI Blazer Brass I have stockpiled in both 9 MM and .45 ACP from Wal-Mart. I would buy it 10 boxes at a time for $7.99 @ box, and $9.99 @ box. Now they're knocking each other over to pay $1.00 a round. The insanity continues.
Title: Re: Smoke'em if ya got'em...ammo availability
Post by: TAB on February 27, 2021, 02:14:55 PM
I can't count the CCI Blazer Brass I have stockpiled in both 9 MM and .45 ACP from Wal-Mart. I would buy it 10 boxes at a time for $7.99 @ box, and $9.99 @ box. Now they're knocking each other over to pay $1.00 a round. The insanity continues.
my ammo stock pile has far exceed  my stocks in increased value lol
Title: Re: Smoke'em if ya got'em...ammo availability
Post by: tombogan03884 on February 28, 2021, 08:32:53 AM
my ammo stock pile has far exceed  my stocks in increased value lol

That NRA ad was right,
INVEST IN PRECIOUS METALS !
They just picked the wrong metals to consider "Precious",
 lead is doing FAR better than Gold or Silver.   ;D
Title: Re: Smoke'em if ya got'em...ammo availability
Post by: Rastus on February 28, 2021, 10:15:40 AM
That NRA ad was right,
INVEST IN PRECIOUS METALS !
They just picked the wrong metals to consider "Precious",
 lead is doing FAR better than Gold or Silver.   ;D

My spiel is "Lead, silver and gold...the three precious metals. 

Absolutely correct.  At least until now.  Gold and silver went down a good bit Friday....gold had been trending down mostly the entire week.  If you have it now may be the time to by some silver or gold to counter the inflation (a little insurance maybe not an investment) coming our way.  I think the stock market tanks by end of summer and later this year I suspect inflation will begin to eat us up. 
Title: Re: Smoke'em if ya got'em...ammo availability
Post by: TAB on February 28, 2021, 10:31:52 AM
My spiel is "Lead, silver and gold...the three precious metals. 

Absolutely correct.  At least until now.  Gold and silver went down a good bit Friday....gold had been trending down mostly the entire week.  If you have it now may be the time to by some silver or gold to counter the inflation (a little insurance maybe not an investment) coming our way.  I think the stock market tanks by end of summer and later this year I suspect inflation will begin to eat us up.

The inflation scares me.  I can total see  a million  being worth what 100k is at the end of bidens  term.    While yes that would hurt, it will really not effect me as everything I have is paided off.  Its the people that have significantly less that I worry about. 

I have never  been a preper, but I do have 30 days worth of food on hand, a 72 hour kit a 2700 gallon water storege tank, 500 gal of diesel ( off road) and naturally  guns and ammo.   

I am not religious  by any means, and I know there have been lots of the sky is falling stuff.   But I do remember as a kid being told that the world trade centers would burn by air craft and the constitution  would hang by a thread in the later days. 

Title: Re: Smoke'em if ya got'em...ammo availability
Post by: alfsauve on February 28, 2021, 12:52:38 PM
Looking around today, online.  Ammo is there but expensive.  That's a good sign.  I even found some Amer Eagle 9mm 147gr, but I'm not paying $1/ea.  But it's there. 
Title: Re: Smoke'em if ya got'em...ammo availability
Post by: tombogan03884 on February 28, 2021, 02:54:19 PM
The inflation scares me.  I can total see  a million  being worth what 100k is at the end of bidens  term.    While yes that would hurt, it will really not effect me as everything I have is paided off.  Its the people that have significantly less that I worry about. 

I have never  been a preper, but I do have 30 days worth of food on hand, a 72 hour kit a 2700 gallon water storege tank, 500 gal of diesel ( off road) and naturally  guns and ammo.   

I am not religious  by any means, and I know there have been lots of the sky is falling stuff.   But I do remember as a kid being told that the world trade centers would burn by air craft and the constitution  would hang by a thread in the later days.

The people who made out best during the Wiemar Republic were people who had things like Home loans .
3,000,000 Marks might not have bought a loaf of bread, but it sure knocked hell out of a 25,000 M home loan.
Title: Re: Smoke'em if ya got'em...ammo availability
Post by: Rastus on February 28, 2021, 07:08:10 PM
The people who made out best during the Wiemar Republic were people who had things like Home loans .
3,000,000 Marks might not have bought a loaf of bread, but it sure knocked hell out of a 25,000 M home loan.

Exactly.  Unless you have an adjustable rate mortgage....
Title: Re: Smoke'em if ya got'em...ammo availability
Post by: billt on March 01, 2021, 03:50:20 AM
Inflation is a borrowers best friend. The bigger the loan, the better. The theory is you're paying it back with inflated money. Depending on the inflation rate, a home mortgage can make up the interest being paid over the life of the loan. It all depends if the interest rate on the loan itself is low enough, and the inflation rate, along with the appreciation on the home itself, is high enough.

The problem with home mortgages today, is a LOT of areas are set to crash price wise. Places like California, Oregon, and Washington state have very high real estate prices. Along with equally high taxes, (both property, sales, and gas), to support their nanny states. But the jobs are drying up, and people and companies leaving left and right. Sooner or later the bottom has to fall out.

Especially in places like Southern California. Where real estate prices are in the stratosphere. That bubble is ready to burst. Then look out, because it could easily start a chain reaction in places like Illinois and New York. Both are maxed out price wise, and they're underfunded $h!t holes that can't pay their bills.   
Title: Re: Smoke'em if ya got'em...ammo availability
Post by: les snyder on March 01, 2021, 08:08:59 AM
re:paying off your mortgage (actually her taxes, sorry).... unless you have a prick demanding that the bill be paid in person...didn't work so well for Martha Custis Lee... her husband, Robert, was out of town for work, she was justifiably worried about her safety, so a servant was sent with the money, but it was not accepted... unable to pay the taxes on their Virginia estate it was defaulted to the US government...to add to the insult then they buried Yankees in her rose garden...

modified... taxes not mortgage
Title: Re: Smoke'em if ya got'em...ammo availability
Post by: tombogan03884 on March 01, 2021, 08:19:34 AM
Exactly.  Unless you have an adjustable rate mortgage....

Fixed rate is a better choice because you can Refi if rates go down.
Ex-MIL did that, as well as bank shopping and got her interest reduced by about a  1/3.



re:paying off your mortgage.... unless you have a prick demanding that the bill be paid in person...didn't work so well for Martha Custis Lee... her husband, Robert, was out of town for work, she was justifiably worried about her safety, so a servant was sent with the money, but it was not accepted... unable to pay the mortgage on their Virginia estate it was defaulted to the US government...to add to the insult then they buried Yankees in her rose garden...

The fact that her husbands "work" involved kicking hell out of the Army he refused to command might have had a BIT to do with that refusal.   ;D
Title: Re: Smoke'em if ya got'em...ammo availability
Post by: les snyder on March 01, 2021, 08:38:34 AM
always a good trivia question... what was the name of the Custis-Lee mansion?

  I always thought it humorous that Union tombstones had rounded tops, while Confederate tombstones were pointed to keep the Yankees from sitting on them


Title: Re: Smoke'em if ya got'em...ammo availability
Post by: tombogan03884 on March 01, 2021, 05:02:32 PM
always a good trivia question... what was the name of the Custis-Lee mansion?

  I always thought it humorous that Union tombstones had rounded tops, while Confederate tombstones were pointed to keep the Yankees from sitting on them

Arlington ?   ;D
Title: Re: Smoke'em if ya got'em...ammo availability
Post by: les snyder on March 02, 2021, 08:02:03 AM
Yes... and I can without reservation state that Rastus is winning  :)
Title: Re: Smoke'em if ya got'em...ammo availability
Post by: Rastus on March 02, 2021, 10:06:47 AM
I don't know what I'm winning but I'm old now and have my house paid for so I don't have need of a mortgage.  On this level....if you have the stuff you need it's best to be paid for, if you can't pay off or need to buy something because you are starting out then get a fixed rate mortgage (and dump the credit cards as quick as you can...borrow enough to zero them out if you have the discipline to not run them up again).

I'm thinking the market is going to have a correction soon...not a huge dump this time...but maybe.  I am concerned a really bad and long lasting market downturn comes some time after late June earliest but most likely after mid-September...when these idiots in business who attacked Trump and supported the communist realize what they've done. If you have gold and silver it could be a way to retain value like insurance. 

I've started selling off some stocks that don't produce income...it may be a couple of weeks or so early but again, I'm old and not working so...I like what I have and I'm selling 90% of each one that is up and not producing income.  What I'm not selling off right now are food and utility stocks.  I'm also not selling off pipeline stocks because they have dividends near 10%.  This is for what may be the first correction to hopefully gain a little from the drop and a buyback.  The big drop, if it happens, is probably in the intermediate future. 

The only thing most congressmen and senators are worried about is lining their own pockets ( mostly lawyers, right! ).  Expect when the next market correction comes that the news media begins preparing the ground in earnest (they have already started) that we need China's trade to fix our economy.  The idiots who put this Bozo party in will buy it.  Biden will cave and go back to the trough but he will be covered by the news media because it had to be done.  So then Wall Street will proclaim we have saved the republic financially and the market climbs again.  All the while the Pelosi's and Schumer's and their congressional minions will stuff their pockets again from the special interests who benefit.  It's after that the real drop comes....that's the one I think is most likely after mid-September. 

The stock market is doing well right now.  It's based on the Trump economy.  When the effects of the new regulations and taxes begin to dawn on the business bozos who pushed Biden and they begin to understand there are no grownups capable of running things the market will tank...that follows what we will already know, the fall of the economy the rest of us rely on.

This is not advice.  This is just my commentary which may not be worth 2 zinc pennies.



     
Title: Re: Smoke'em if ya got'em...ammo availability
Post by: alfsauve on March 02, 2021, 02:36:02 PM
Like Rastus, retired and drawing down.

My retirement funds (403s and 401s) are still set for moderate growth.  Miss Kitty and I are drawing those down to zero on a 20year plan.  Enjoy the money, travel, etc.  The idea is that until we're 90 we can/will travel as much as we like.  After that it'll be more stay-at-home life.   My non-retirement funds I hope not to touch the principal so I can leave it to the kids.   If adjust those funds to stocks and funds that have both growth and dividend potential.  Sonovus, Exxon, Global Payments to name a few.

Hopefully these funds will increase along with inflation.
Title: Re: Smoke'em if ya got'em...ammo availability
Post by: billt on March 02, 2021, 03:42:39 PM
Like Rastus, retired and drawing down. My retirement funds (403s and 401s) are still set for moderate growth.  Miss Kitty and I are drawing those down to zero on a 20year plan.  Enjoy the money, travel, etc.  The idea is that until we're 90 we can/will travel as much as we like.  After that it'll be more stay-at-home life.....

That's pretty much our plan as well. 2 of my bigger funds will run dry when I'm 92..... Somewhere around 2045. Assuming I even make it that long. After that it will most likely to be an accomplishment to make to to the john without messing myself.
Title: Re: Smoke'em if ya got'em...ammo availability
Post by: Rastus on March 02, 2021, 06:16:34 PM
My concern is the big drop.  I see a fork in the road.  If the commies (aka demoncrats) take over it's over.  The plans the left has will deprive anyone who worked and saved of what they earned.  Or, the demoncrats lose elections (right...cheating bastards) and people turn right.  On one side what is saved doesn't matter...hell, the state may end up owning your house...and on the other side the damage may take a decade or two to repair.  Either option is not good for anyone especially old people.  I guess we are to blame though...for not whipping ass when we should have.

I think having something real like land is good for the better of the two options.  Having enough gold and silver to pay the property taxes would be a good idea. 

Title: Re: Smoke'em if ya got'em...ammo availability
Post by: tombogan03884 on March 03, 2021, 08:43:46 AM
My concern is the big drop.  I see a fork in the road.  If the commies (aka demoncrats) take over it's over.  The plans the left has will deprive anyone who worked and saved of what they earned.  Or, the demoncrats lose elections (right...cheating bastards) and people turn right.  On one side what is saved doesn't matter...hell, the state may end up owning your house...and on the other side the damage may take a decade or two to repair.  Either option is not good for anyone especially old people.  I guess we are to blame though...for not whipping ass when we should have.

I think having something real like land is good for the better of the two options.  Having enough gold and silver to pay the property taxes would be a good idea.

It was our parents who dropped the ball by allowing the HUAC to be dissolved and not allowing J. Edgar to crush communism in the US.
The democrats fought to get CPUSA legalized in America.
Title: Re: Smoke'em if ya got'em...ammo availability
Post by: alfsauve on March 30, 2021, 05:32:35 PM
As you may know I'm picky.  Well my revolvers are picky.  So I prefer to shoot American Eagle 147gr 9mm.  I'll take 115gr but the revolvers and the Glock group so much better with 147 gr.

Some of the bulk dealers have some AE now but for ~$0.80/rnd.   I'll pass.

The good news. The light at the end of the tunnel, my LGS has them now, limit 2 boxes, in stock for range users.  $0.62/rd for the 115gr and $0.66/rd for the 147gr.   No I didn't buy any, but it's a good sign.
Title: Re: Smoke'em if ya got'em...ammo availability
Post by: tombogan03884 on March 30, 2021, 09:15:00 PM
Seems like some of the gun prices are getting a little less ridiculous as well.
Title: Re: Smoke'em if ya got'em...ammo availability
Post by: MAUSERMAN on April 06, 2021, 12:43:49 AM
I was helping a friend clean out his garage and I stumbled on two spam cans of 7.62x 54r. My friend Bobby said I could have them since he doesn’t own a rifle that could shoot it. He’s not sure how he got them. I’m just happy to have it.
Title: Re: Smoke'em if ya got'em...ammo availability
Post by: billt on April 06, 2021, 04:43:06 AM
The Wal-Mart here still rarely has ANY 12 gauge ammo. I'm hoping that will get better as the long hot desert Summer ensues. People out here don't care to shoot outdoors when it's 120 F in the shade. I still have well over half a ton of shot, 32 pounds of powder, and several cases of wads. Not to mention around 10,000 #209 shotshell primers.

I'm seriously thinking about selling them off at these incredible prices, and just buy ammo from here on out. The only problem is I have to do one before I can do the other. Then I'll be left without either ammo OR reloading supplies. That's not an advantageous position to be in at this, or any other time.
Title: Re: Smoke'em if ya got'em...ammo availability
Post by: tombogan03884 on April 06, 2021, 08:32:44 AM
Friend of mine was in Cabela's the other day.
Their entire ammo inventory was 2 boxes of 44 Mag.
Title: Re: Smoke'em if ya got'em...ammo availability
Post by: billt on April 06, 2021, 08:48:34 AM
$40.00 @ box, with a 1 box limit.

https://www.budk.com/MaxxTech-9MM-115-Grain-FMJ-33296?sourcecode=IZ040621&email=billt3160@gmail.com&trk_msg=SMNLLSH2K0IK90DMNSO4MD1LEO&trk_contact=INHMC0H4DP7G4MVD0BLERCIMP0&trk_sid=QTIA3JSH71FQKDAND1HA262EJC&smtrctid=F4326409B45C540C4564D3936D&utm_source=listrak&utm_medium=email&utm_term=MAXXTECH+9MM+115+GRAIN+FMJ&utm_campaign=ADABBG4+-+Guns+%26+Shooting+(Gmail)+180-1+days&utm_content=Email+1
Title: Re: Smoke'em if ya got'em...ammo availability
Post by: alfsauve on April 06, 2021, 10:04:10 AM
I consider American Eagle to be the top brand of plain nosed cartridges.  My LGS now has them in stock for $32 and $33 per box (115gr and 145gr) limit 2 boxes per day.
Title: Re: Smoke'em if ya got'em...ammo availability
Post by: PegLeg45 on April 07, 2021, 03:39:09 PM
The Wal-Mart here still rarely has ANY 12 gauge ammo. I'm hoping that will get better as the long hot desert Summer ensues. People out here don't care to shoot outdoors when it's 120 F in the shade. I still have well over half a ton of shot, 32 pounds of powder, and several cases of wads. Not to mention around 10,000 #209 shotshell primers.

I'm seriously thinking about selling them off at these incredible prices, and just buy ammo from here on out. The only problem is I have to do one before I can do the other. Then I'll be left without either ammo OR reloading supplies. That's not an advantageous position to be in at this, or any other time.

Our younger son was over last night and one of his co-workers from the fire department called and said our walmart had just put out about thirty of the Federal 100 round boxes of standard load 12 ga for $22 per. I told him to grab me a couple since he was there.
There was a two box limit, but the clerk let him ring up three separate purchases (since he was going to leave and come back and do that anyway).

I don't shoot a lot of shotgun, but I could always use some regular multi-use shells since the bulk of my 12 ga stuff is buck and slugs.
Title: Re: Smoke'em if ya got'em...ammo availability
Post by: Big Frank on May 04, 2021, 03:29:02 AM
I got an email yesterday from Tactical Sh*t titled, .22 LR New Low Prices✔✔

When I clicked  on the main thing it was Armscor .22lr 36gr JHP 500rd Brick = $124.95  https://shop.tacticalshit.com/armscor-22lr-36gr-jhp-500rd-brick

If these are the New Low Prices I'm sure as heck glad I don't have to pay the Old High Prices. That's still 10 times what I'm willing to pay. Of course things will change as I use up my supply, but I hardly shoot anymore. I'll have to put some rounds through my 10/22 this summer to try out my 110 round drum mag.
Title: Re: Smoke'em if ya got'em...ammo availability
Post by: tombogan03884 on May 04, 2021, 07:51:49 AM
I got an email yesterday from Tactical Sh*t titled, .22 LR New Low Prices✔✔

When I clicked  on the main thing it was Armscor .22lr 36gr JHP 500rd Brick = $124.95  https://shop.tacticalshit.com/armscor-22lr-36gr-jhp-500rd-brick

If these are the New Low Prices I'm sure as heck glad I don't have to pay the Old High Prices. That's still 10 times what I'm willing to pay. Of course things will change as I use up my supply, but I hardly shoot anymore. I'll have to put some rounds through my 10/22 this summer to try out my 110 round drum mag.

Do not use Tactical Shit.

The service sucks and the prices are no better than any one else.
I just ordered  some 300 and 5.56.
Took 2 weeks before they even shipped the 5.56 and another 2 weeks for the .300
 My order went in 4/4 and I just got the last of it last Saturday.
Title: Re: Smoke'em if ya got'em...ammo availability
Post by: billt on May 04, 2021, 08:56:13 AM
Jesus Christ, $12.50 @ box for .22's!
Title: Re: Smoke'em if ya got'em...ammo availability
Post by: J. Kennedy-ar154me on May 04, 2021, 10:24:43 AM
Jesus Christ, $12.50 @ box for .22's!

That is what I used to pay for a box of .45's. (S&B) WOW.
Title: Re: Smoke'em if ya got'em...ammo availability
Post by: alfsauve on May 04, 2021, 10:47:41 AM
Federal is a sponsor of the 2021 USPSA LoCap Nationals this week.

Federal made available 500 or 1,000 round boxes of 9mm 150gr Syntech Action Pistol ammo for competitors at $26.99 a box.   Yes, that's 54cents a round.  But yes they have it.

Title: Re: Smoke'em if ya got'em...ammo availability
Post by: TAB on May 04, 2021, 01:52:50 PM
Federal is a sponsor of the 2021 USPSA LoCap Nationals this week.

Federal made available 500 or 1,000 round boxes of 9mm 150gr Syntech Action Pistol ammo for competitors at $26.99 a box.   Yes, that's 54cents a round.  But yes they have it.
that is not terrible
Title: Re: Smoke'em if ya got'em...ammo availability
Post by: Majer on May 04, 2021, 05:11:13 PM
I was at a gun show this weekend and saw .22 rimfire for $150.00 for a 500 round brick.I don't know if they sold any of it,But I sure as hell wasn't going to pay that much.I have a small fortune in my ammo locker at those prices.