Machine gun or not this sounds like a bunch of idiots

[Pathfinder]

did you actually read the Affidavit from the ATF?  This guy was asking for it.

Right. And BATFE agents never ever lie or set people up or in any way otherwise cause good guys to be persecuted. And they have rock solid testing procedures, well documented and vetted by a number of independent agencies. </sarcasm off>

Son, never ever believe anything the gummint says about someone unless you personally have the facts. Ask Len Savage, et al.

You've been in LA-LA land too long.

[TAB]

Lets see my choices are to beleave some one that has a history of firearms violations ( was arrested but never charged for CC with out a permit) was doing questionable things on the internet and on trail for a felony or a law enoforcement officer?

I'm going to go out on a limb here and say the LEO, as I'm sure just about every one else would.

Now, do I agree with the testing procedure, from what I have heard, no, but I've not seen the testing procedures.  So I will with hold "IMO" about that until I do.

He was convicted by a jury of his peers.

I still think there is is more going on here then has been released.

[DDMac]

Notwithstanding Pathfinder's rock solid, never was an honest ATF Agent convictions, to which he is absolutely entitled, my take on this and similar cases is very simple. If a man demands to wear a grass skirt while dancing around the bonfire, don't be outraged when he turns into a sparkler. And it's not the bonfire's fault.
Mac.

[JohnJacobH]

This guy is from my neck of the woods and what he did and how he handled this problem. Well lets just say no way in hell with my 40 yrs. time with firearms would I have even considered do what this clown did. Do I have any love for the BATFE?

Everything about machineguns, BATFE, etc is complete foolishness.

Link:

http://johnjacobh.wordpress.com/2008/06/22/speaking-of-machineguns/

Best regards,

[CJS3]

Hey this guy was a total dumbass,but this case looks to me like an attempt by the ATF to codify in case law a piciune regulation that really didn't have an adequate definition. Didn't it say he was using someone elses FFL. That's called Illigal Arms Trafficing and carries a hell of a lot longer sentence than 30 months. Looks like he gave them a choice of felonies to slam him with. They just chose the one that would make a New Law.

[Sponsor]

[tombogan03884]

Hey this guy was a total dumbass,but this case looks to me like an attempt by the ATF to codify in case law a piciune regulation that really didn't have an adequate definition. Didn't it say he was using someone elses FFL. That's called Illigal Arms Trafficing and carries a hell of a lot longer sentence than 30 months. Looks like he gave them a choice of felonies to slam him with. They just chose the one that would make a New Law.

How would that work in case of a "partnership" where one guy is supplying all the labor and knowledge, while the other guy is just supplying paperwork and maybe finances  ?

[DDMac]

There are so many variables it makes my head spin. It's just too easy to stay legal, IMHO.
Mac.