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Russia's Staggering Losses In Ukraine
« on: September 18, 2022, 01:26:21 AM »
Russia has lost as many troops in the last 7 months of fighting in Ukraine, (almost 54,000), than we lost in 10 YEARS in Vietnam! Their equipment losses are even more staggering.

This war is going horribly wrong for Putin. It is devastating Russia both morally, as well as economically. They can't keep this up, and Putin knows it. Last week someone from his elite inner circle gave up his location. They hit his limousine, and damaged it.

Ukraine is now taking back captured Russian territory with the advanced weapons they're receiving from us and other countries. The Javelin Missiles are proving to be devastating to their tanks and armored personnel carriers.

The people of Russia are turning against him, and he is on borrowed time. It's only a matter of time before they get him. He has cost the politically powerful Russian oligarchs there billions of dollars in seized property and currency worldwide. They are NOT happy with him.... And remember, they are the ones who put him in, and keep him in power.   

https://www.ukrinform.net/rubric-ato/3571795-russias-military-death-toll-in-ukraine-rises-to-53850.html

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Re: Russia's Staggering Losses In Ukraine
« Reply #1 on: September 18, 2022, 12:40:50 PM »
Russia has lost as many troops in the last 7 months of fighting in Ukraine, (almost 54,000), than we lost in 10 YEARS in Vietnam! Their equipment losses are even more staggering.

This war is going horribly wrong for Putin. It is devastating Russia both morally, as well as economically. They can't keep this up, and Putin knows it. Last week someone from his elite inner circle gave up his location. They hit his limousine, and damaged it.

Ukraine is now taking back captured Russian territory with the advanced weapons they're receiving from us and other countries. The Javelin Missiles are proving to be devastating to their tanks and armored personnel carriers.

The people of Russia are turning against him, and he is on borrowed time. It's only a matter of time before they get him. He has cost the politically powerful Russian oligarchs there billions of dollars in seized property and currency worldwide. They are NOT happy with him.... And remember, they are the ones who put him in, and keep him in power.   

https://www.ukrinform.net/rubric-ato/3571795-russias-military-death-toll-in-ukraine-rises-to-53850.html

Who they? Source?

The cited source is Ukrainian, not trustworthy as they have a serious axe to grind in this, may just be propaganda.

OTOH, Russia is buying materiel from North Korea, stuff they sent the Koreans back in the Soviet days. The losses in men and materiel are high, though. It's tough watching the MSM because they show old, burned out and rusty equipment while crowing over  the materiel seized by the Ukrainians after it was abandoned by the Russkies. Can't trust the MSM at all.

Also, the recent cozying up between Putin and Xi is disturbing for a whole lot of reasons. Two in particular are the fact that Russia now has an outlet for oil sales (China), and China now has a target for its goods (Russia) that have been tied up due to Xi's insane zero-covid lockdown policy as well as diminished demand from the West. If you look at the marine traffic maps, China has hundreds (if not thousands) of ships anchored at sea, dormant, with no crews. They've been moved into harbors and bays of late due to the pending typhoon, but in a couple weeks they will be towed back out and anchored again. No demand for them.

Lots of cargo flights, though, from China to the States. Probably real necessities that are now much more expensive because air freight is more expensive than boat.

Boat traffic in China IS flowing northward, though. To Beijing's harbor area and beyond.

Another issue with the Ruskkies is that they have Europe over a barrel. Come winter NATO may well be an organization in name only.

I follow Forward Observer and Monkeywerx to get a better picture of stuff the MSM won't even hint at.



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Re: Russia's Staggering Losses In Ukraine
« Reply #3 on: September 20, 2022, 07:32:05 PM »
Trump's Javelin missile sale saved them until the Ukrainians help arrived.  We've lost a couple of special forces advisors over there as carried in the news.  If not for those Javelin's the war would have been in Russia's favor and would likely be over now.

However that stymied them along with a few other weapons.  The news coming out is that we are the ones telling the Ukrainians what to do and when to do it using our intelligence and our weapons.  I think had we not gotten involved so quickly and because of Trump's 700+ Javelin missiles that Ukraine would be lost.  It was looking like a rout at the beginning.  HIMARs system has made a huge difference in striking command and control coupled with intelligence that identified HQ's and Russian military leadership. 

It's also not over yet.  I've heard a lot of people complaining about our munitions getting used up but who would we have used them on?  Maybe they are getting used up but someone else is doing the job and our guys are able to, mostly, sit this one out. 

It will be interesting to see what gives with Putin's coming announcement. 

I doubt Russia will escalate until winter when Europe is freezing and needing Russian's natural gas.  However, without Ukrainian food Europe will begin to starve.  I was amazed at how quickly help flowed into the Ukraine not knowing they supply so much food to Europe...I bet had that not been the case the action would be over now. 

But, if Putin does escalate in a manner other than just a swelling of numbers of warm bodies and bullets then thing may get really unstable very quickly.

Trump tried to tell Europe...but they did not listen.  I really enjoy looking at the German diplomats in the UN laughing and ridiculing Trump when he was warning everyone of reliance on Russian natural gas and oil.  Like a contract or piece of paper really means something to a sovereign nation.  Who is laughing now bitch?
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