A phrase that lots of gun owners use that just pisses me off..

[TAB]

As far as I understand it they actually have no right to deny a person carrying concealed or open. State law at least in my state supersedes it. If they happen to spot the firearm they can ask you to leave which you have to comply with or be charged with trespass. But like it was stated earlier concealed is just that they have no right to know.
Mike Mc

If you commit a crime and were never cuaght, did you commit a crime?

[Hazcat]

My .02.

Here in FL the law states that the State occupies the whole field on gun regulations, meaning you can't change them.  The state law lists places you cannot carry. So I read it this way.  A mall cannot post 'no guns' but private property is just that, private (by direct invitation only).  If I work at a business that is open to the public then it is no longer 'private'.

[TexGun]

If you commit a crime and were never cuaght, did you commit a crime?

If I render an opinion in the middle of the woods and my wife does not hear me, am I still wrong? 

[TAB]

If I render an opinion in the middle of the woods and my wife does not hear me, am I still wrong? 

Ask her.

[Teresa Heilevang]

If I render an opinion in the middle of the woods and my wife does not hear me, am I still wrong? 

Yes.

[Sponsor]

[TexGun]

 

[tombogan03884]

NH law says 1) open carry is allowed to any one who can legally possess a pistol and 2) concealed carry is allowed any where as long as you have a legal right to be there. Except "Those areas commonly used by the courts". If you want me on your land whether to visit or to do work, I will have a gun,to ask me to not bring it is like asking me not to where pants (Boney knees  ) My employer has a no weapons policy, the ONLY reason I comply is because I NEED A JOB and I do not have a car to leave my pistol in, If I had something like a Kel tec or LCP I would disregard that rule but a 1911 is not suitable for deep concealment. They say no weapons and then issue everyone a razor knife, go figure. But it does not realy matter, I know 2 ways to kill with a rolled up magazine. There are no dangerous weapons. Only dangerous people.

[Pathfinder]

They are not denying you your rights... you are going there BY CHOICE.  you don't have to go there.    They are allowing you to come on too thier properity...

If you allow some one into your home, do you expect them to fallow your rules? 

most companys that have a no weapons policy are not anti or pro... they are just trying to stay in biz.   Also most every single comp policy I have ever seen states very clearly no weapons.

To answer, I am there to earn a living and perform a service for my company in return. Given your last statement, this effectively prevents me from earning a living and exercising my rights. I ask again, does a corporation have the right to deny me - a human being - my rights?

Others have noted that if my business is open to the public is a good one. Trouble is, I work for a bank which has all sorts of spaces open to the public, but I personally work in a secured facility (data center), not routinely open to the public as a branch is.

Comparing a corporation's "rights" to an individual's rights is a dangerous and slippery slope. For one this country was founded on religious and merchantile freedoms, in fact the latter is a large part of what has made this country such a great place. So it is easy for us to see corporate "rights" where they do not exist. This is similar to seeing "rights" for homosexuality where none are in fact defined.

On the other hand, corporations are rapidly becoming totalitarian substitutes for the royal or imperial governments of the past, in which humans are becoming nothing more than little cogs in a huge and complex set of gears - with the attenuated rights of those totalitarian regimes..

So yes, if you come onto my (individual) property, my rights trump yours. If I do business in a corporation's location, their "rights" do not trump mine. Ever.

[DDMac]

A little good news. I attended a wedding in Pineville, NC last week. It is a suburb of Charlotte, the largest city in NC. After the event, we went to the monster mall in town to return tuxedos. As I entered, I saw where the "NO FIREARMS" notice used to be posted! The familiar outline was still visible among the other notices, like NO Smoking!

I take that as progress, and perhaps some legal acknowledgment that the mall, as a business entity, has a liability exposure if they fail to adequately protect CCW licensed customers who have been rendered defenseless by no guns restrictions.

Mac.

[TAB]

The answer is yes a corperation does have the right to deny you your "rights", if you agree too it( of which almost every company makes you sign some type of document  waving  a right in one form of another).  In other words, if you want to work here fallow the rules, or get the boot.  Same thing if you were to come into my shop, fallow my rules or get the boot.  I don't preform a life saving task, so I am under no legal oblegation to do biz with anyone.