A phrase that lots of gun owners use that just pisses me off..

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Thank you, Rastus. Well said. It's what I appreciate about this forum, as I said. And, I apologize for the "macho bullshit" line. It was uncalled for. I know, I know, The Duke said, "Never apologize, son. It's a sign of weakness."

actually no it was not uncalled for... there are lots of people that carry for the wrong reasons... one of them is acting "tough"

[Rastus]

Thank you, Rastus. Well said. It's what I appreciate about this forum, as I said. And, I apologize for the "macho bullshit" line. It was uncalled for. I know, I know, The Duke said, "Never apologize, son. It's a sign of weakness."

At the threat of being ostracized, I would be hesitant to take that kind of advice from The Duke.  In the movies that character eternally sprang forth from past disfunctional and broken relationships.  Not a good role model to look towards for advice.  

[tombogan03884]

actually no it was not uncalled for... there are lots of people that carry for the wrong reasons... one of them is acting "tough"

Another one is commiting felonies.

[Rastus]

Another one is commiting felonies.

B-I-N-G-O

[Rastus]

Another one is commiting felonies.

Necessity is the plea for every infringement of human freedom.
It is the argument of tyrants; it is the creed of slaves.
-William Pitt, British prime-minister (1759-1806)

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[tombogan03884]

Harm done by criminals, murderers and theives is smallcompared to the agony inflicted on human beings by "do gooders" and activist bureaucrats who set themselvesup as godsand ruthlessly force their views on all others - assured the end justifies "their" means.  (Henry Grady Weaver )

[twyacht]

I don't carry a gun to kill people. I carry a gun to keep from being killed.
I don't carry a gun to scare people. I carry a gun because sometimes this world can be a scary place.
I don't carry a gun because I'm paranoid. I carry a gun because there are real threats in this world.
I don't carry a gun because I am evil. I carry a gun because I've lived long enough to see the evil in the world.
I don't carry a gun because I hate the government. I carry a gun because I understand the limitations of government.
I don't carry a gun because I'm angry. I carry a gun so that I don't have to spend the rest of my life hating myself for failing to be prepared.
I don't carry a gun because my sex organs are too small. I carry a gun because I want to continue to use those sex organs for the purpose they were intended for a good long time to come.
I don't carry a gun because I want to shoot someone. I carry a gun because I want to die at a ripe old age in my bed and not on a sidewalk somewhere tomorrow afternoon.
I don't carry a gun to make me feel like a man. I carry a gun because a real man knows how to take care and protect their property, themselves and the ones they love.
I don't carry a gun because I feel inadequate. I carry a gun because unarmed and facing armed thugs I am inadequate.
I don't carry a gun because I love it. I carry a gun because I love life and the people who make it meaningful to me.
I don't carry a gun to shoot to kill someone. I carry a gun and would shoot as necessary to stay alive. If the assailant dies as a result of a desire to harm me, it's no loss to society.
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I think this about sums up my position there Blackjack. And I will state, many members of this forum (as you are a guest), agree with these positions. 

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Several have mentioned that they CCW for protection. I'd like to ask, protection from what? Do you live in such a high crime area that the LEO's can't maintain the peace?

Another member on this forum also summed this silly question : When life or death comes down to seconds, the Police are MINUTES AWAY.  The Kool-Aid is choking me.

[ericire12]

If you know it will offend a lot of people and do anyway, especially to piss off those people, then you are not upholding your rights, you're just being rude.

That is a ridiculous argument. I'm sorry, but no one in their right mind would compromise the safety of their loved ones just so someone's feelings don't get hurt.

Several have mentioned that they CCW for protection. I'd like to ask, protection from what? Do you live in such a high crime area that the LEO's can't maintain the peace? Or is it as the song says, "Paranoia strikes deep/Into your heart it will creep..."

"...an unarmed man may be attacked with greater confidence than an armed man."
--Thomas Jefferson (and that goes for women, too!)

"A man that hath a sword by his side shall have least occasion to make use of it."
-- J. Trenchard & W. Moyle

"It's quicker to pull your Smith & Wesson than to dial 911."
--Lt. Lowell Duckett, special asst. to DC Police Chief; President of the Black Police Caucus, Washington Post March 22, 1996.

As a gun owner, I do fully support the 2nd Amendment. I just think my interpretation of it is different than yours. That's why we have a Supreme Court, because the wording of the Constitution is open to discussion and interpretation. It's the very cornerstone of our society, and one of the best things about this forum and especially this thread. We can discuss. If you leave the discussion, you're violating your own right as an American citizen...free speech.

Wrong! the constitution is NOT a "living Breathing document" that is open to interpretation!



"The said constitution shall never be construed to authorize Congress to prevent the people of the United States who are peaceable citizens from keeping their own arms."
-- Samuel Adams

"Firearms are second only to the Constitution in importance; they are the people's liberty's teeth."
--George Washington

"To preserve liberty, it is essential that the whole body of people always possess arms."
--James Madison

"Arms discourage and keep the invader and plunderer in awe, and preserve order in the world as well as property... Horrid mischief would ensue were the law-abiding deprived of the use of them."
--Thomas Paine

"The very atmosphere of firearms anywhere and everywhere restrains evil interference; they deserve a place with all that's good. When firearms go, all goes; we need them every hour."
--George Washington

"Americans have the will to resist because you have weapons. If you don't have a gun, freedom of speech has no power. "
-- Yoshimi Ishikawa

"The Constitution of the United States of America clearly affirms the right of every American citizen to bear arms."
-- Malcolm X, in Malcolm X at 337, J. Clarke ed. (New York, N.Y., 1969)

"A fear of weapons is a sign of retarded sexual and emotional maturity. "
- - Sigmund Freud, General Introduction to Psychoanalysis (1952)




Something else to ponder:

"Waiting periods are only a step. Registration is only a step. The prohibition of private firearms is the goal."
-- Janet Reno

"Our task of creating a socialist America can only succeed when those who would resist us have been totally disarmed."
-- Sara Brady, Chairman, Handgun Control International

[kmitch200]

Are you honestly telling me that if you had your wife and kids in the car with you and somebody did something threatening that you'd get into a gun fight with them? What if a stray bullet struck little Suzie in the head?

I smell a steaming pile of troll.
That bullet you're so afraid of may hit little Suzie in the head whether you fight or just sit there and piss yourself wishing there was someone that would protect you and yours.

If deadly force is the ONLY out, in a very short time frame the creep in question is going to weigh a couple of ounces more than when they started their ill thought out plan.

[tombogan03884]

There's something  more basic than the law or even rights here. The fact that you can do something or have the right to do it does not mean you have to do it. If you know it will offend a lot of people and do anyway, especially to piss off those people, then you are not upholding your rights, you're just being rude. Manners, people, manners. A civilized society has to have rules of conduct. In a civilized society, the common citizen shouldn't have to go healed.

There's been a lot of talk about how you couldn't pass or enforce any rules that would target black people or women. That shows that this forum is peopled mostly by white males. Ah, testerone!

Several have mentioned that they CCW for protection. I'd like to ask, protection from what? Do you live in such a high crime area that the LEO's can't maintain the peace? Or is it as the song says, "Paranoia strikes deep/Into your heart it will creep..." Are you honestly telling me that if you had your wife and kids in the car with you and somebody did something threatening that you'd get into a gun fight with them? What if a stray bullet struck little Suzie in the head? Or is the varmints that you're worried about? Lions and tigers and bears, oh my!

I don't think this is about 2nd Amendment rights, which I fully support. It's just macho bullshit. I am a man and I can do whatever I want whenever I want and you can't say me nay! And woe betide if you try!

Typical Socialist comment, smell the bullsh!t