Author Topic: A phrase that lots of gun owners use that just pisses me off..  (Read 57336 times)

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Re: A phrase that lots of gun owners use that just pisses me off..
« Reply #90 on: June 14, 2008, 05:24:15 PM »
I took the course and passed the test that would allow me to get my permit to carry because I got sick and tired of finding myself in places where I was pretty sure I was the only one that was not armed.  I don't go out looking for trouble, but I do find myself in the "wrong part of town" for business purposes from time to time.  Top that off with being a "naive country boy" I will occasionally do dumb things like go for a walk when staying in a big city. 

Case in point - A couple months ago I was in a large city for meetings.  It was midnight, and I had been laying in bed for two sleepless hours.  I know from experience that the best cure is a walk in the fresh night air.  I got dressed and headed out.  I stuck to the main streets, but before I knew it I was in a ruff area.  I had strapped on the .40 when I got dressed, and I did the slight arm rub to feel it under my shirt.  Did having this gun make me brave or hang around where I should not have been ... NO  WAY!!!  However, it did give me the peace of mind that I could stay aware of my surroundings and those within my "zone" without panic until I worked my way back to a safer area and eventually back to the safety of my room.

Rambo has gotten a lot of misguided abuse by virtually everyone.  However, if you watch the beginning of the first Rambo movie you will see what I think is the proper way to act when carrying or just taking care of yourself.  Rambo did not go out looking for trouble, but he did not allow himself to be abused either.  When I go out, armed or not, I will not be the meek lamb cowering in the back of the group.  I will be the piece of grissle that you don't want to bite into.  I stay aware of my setting and those around me.  If I spot trouble, I maintain awareness of them, and if need be I do not break eye contact except to scan for more threat.  I don't go out looking for a fight or to escalate a situation into a fight.  However, if you are bent on creating a situation I will be there at some level to protect myself and those with me.  A word of caution - as a former Boy Scout I take the Motto "Be Prepared" to the extreme, and I am PREPARED!
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Re: A phrase that lots of gun owners use that just pisses me off..
« Reply #91 on: June 14, 2008, 06:16:05 PM »
After the timeless quotes from not only this countries Founding Fathers, (Father's Day applies to them as well), Thank God.

I am thankful that the honest members of this forum simply don't want their few "not for debate"  rights granted by the Consitution

f***** with.  Period. The courts can interpret all they want, thankfully and hopefully DC vs. Heller realizes that you can't pick and choose how citizens rights are applied when it comes to Amendments. Are there bad Amendments? Yes. the income tax one kinda sucks.

Are we a perfect society? Hell No! But the rights of the people shall not be infringed, there is no gray area in that!

Don't even get me started on the timeless quotes from Gen. MacArthur, or Jeff Cooper. Responsible gun owners AREN'T the problem. All the laws and regulations ONLY effect the law abiding ones. The criminals don't give a f***, what the gov't does anyway.

Sorry for the rant and attitude. I enjoy civil debate and rational discussion of differing views.  I just am not understanding of the mindset that would "well, ya' know" MODIFY a Constitutional Right. 

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Col. Jeff Cooper.

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Re: A phrase that lots of gun owners use that just pisses me off..
« Reply #92 on: June 14, 2008, 06:54:40 PM »
I smell a steaming pile of troll.

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Re: A phrase that lots of gun owners use that just pisses me off..
« Reply #93 on: June 14, 2008, 08:26:40 PM »
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Yes we all have our quirks and beliefs on how issues should be approached.  We even get on each others nerves from time to time...maybe.  ;)

Regardless, it's a good thing that we all pull the wagons together when we recognize a threat.

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Re: A phrase that lots of gun owners use that just pisses me off..
« Reply #94 on: June 14, 2008, 09:12:53 PM »
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Yes we all have our quirks and beliefs on how issues should be approached.  We even get on each others nerves from time to time...maybe.  ;)

Regardless, it's a good thing that we all pull the wagons together when we recognize a threat.

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Re: A phrase that lots of gun owners use that just pisses me off..
« Reply #95 on: June 14, 2008, 10:28:34 PM »
I have not been near my computer for a few days for personal reasons, but I fired up the 'ole 0's and 1"s tonight and this was the second thread I read.  Wow! I guess this is a "big tent".  The dead horse has been beaten along with some silly ideas that were answered politely, incitefully, and illustrative of  the collective thought of this forum.

First:  I would like to thank those who dispelled some of the foolhardy ideas that were put forth with civility and those damned fact type things that the left just doesn't "feel" right about (how's that for a line).  I joined this forum for exactly that reason.  Leftist are welcome but you better strap your helmet on tight. It's gonna be a bumpy ride.

Second:  I believe the fundamental difference between the left and the right (they call it right for a reason) is feeling and thought.  I could care less about how you feel (feelings change like the wind).  I want to know how you think.  You are free to think differently than I (check out the whole Bob Barr for Pres. thread), and we may agree to disagree, but I am not worried about feelings.  This goes to the whole "phrase that lots of gun owners use that just pisses me off" theme.  Black Jack, I believe, was a guest dissenter.  There were several attempts to hurt feelings or emote a reaction in his post, but he was hung with his own words "That's why we have a Supreme Court, because the wording of the Constitution is open to discussion and interpretation".  To put it a different way, the rules are open to discussion and interpretation.  Yeah, good one.  Depends what your definition of 'touchdown' is.

TAB and Black Jack, thanks for posting.  Keep the discussion open, and please keep the leftist leanings out in CA. ;D

Feel free to hurt my feelings.  It will give me something to think about.
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Re: A phrase that lots of gun owners use that just pisses me off..
« Reply #96 on: June 14, 2008, 10:40:24 PM »


TAB and Black Jack, thanks for posting.  Keep the discussion open, and please keep the leftist leanings out in CA. ;D

Feel free to hurt my feelings.  It will give me something to think about.


I am not a liberal.   I am a conservative moderate.   Infact compared to many of the posters in this thread I am much further rigth then they are on this issuse.   
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Re: A phrase that lots of gun owners use that just pisses me off..
« Reply #97 on: June 15, 2008, 01:06:56 AM »

I am not a liberal.   I am a conservative moderate.   Infact compared to many of the posters in this thread I am much further rigth then they are on this issuse.  

                   

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Re: A phrase that lots of gun owners use that just pisses me off..
« Reply #98 on: June 15, 2008, 10:21:34 PM »

I am not a liberal.   I am a conservative moderate.   Infact compared to many of the posters in this thread I am much further rigth then they are on this issuse.   

Well, that just threw me to the right of Genghis Kahn.   :P

Now I'm gonna have to hang a couple of those swords I got off late night TV...  8)

TAB...it's good you like guns.  What is it you like to shoot the most?
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Re: A phrase that lots of gun owners use that just pisses me off..
« Reply #99 on: June 16, 2008, 12:35:26 AM »
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