A phrase that lots of gun owners use that just pisses me off..

[tombogan03884]

Show me one post where I said I was against Concealed carry.  

How about the whole string of posts where you said it was wrong for LEO's to be able to CC nation wide, or did you "Forget" that.

So its ok for some one to bring anything on to anyones property as long as no one knows its there?

If you ain't paying my wages, I don't care what your "Company policy" is. I'm going to do what the law says I can, CARRY CONCEALED, and if you don't like it there are 2 things you can do, one of which is asking me to leave.

"To date, no one has ever been sued for having a "no weapons policy (and actually had it go to trial )" Weyerhouser for their parking lot ban. When you don't know what you are talking about shutting up is a reasonable option.

[tombogan03884]

I am not a liberal.   I am a conservative moderate.   Infact compared to many of the posters in this thread I am much further rigth then they are on this issuse.  

Like Hillery and B-Ho support the second amendment.

[TAB]

You need to go reread those posts... they were infact directed towards One LEO in general, that was a LEO in name only, strickly for so he could carry nationwide.


Last time I checked conserving the rights of every one is about in conservative as it gets.    But since all you ever think about is ME, ME, ME... its hard for you to see that.

[kdcarlso]

Just got back from a trip. Boy this thread exploded...

Nothing is stoping you from droping your kid off on the street and findig another parking lot for work.

Your correct about the teenager but the three year old may not make it to where she belongs. 
As for the the work parking, lot there aren't any within at least a mile. Ultimately I don't care about the work parking lot anyway (it's a policy). It's my car and I'll keep whatever I want in there...

I try very hard to obey the law, do I break it every once in awhile, yes.  Do I do it intentionaly, some times.  Do I violate other peoples rights in the process, no.

You keep mentioning that this is about other peoples "rights". Is this like Roosevelts freedom from fear? Is there some hoplophobia going on here. Do you just have a fear of others carrying? I am totaly in dark as to how my carrying a concelled handgun violates anyone elses rights. I'm not religious but if I carried a pocket bible would that vioates someones rights as well? Please don't take these as insults I'm just trying to understand your point of view..

[tombogan03884]

You need to go reread those posts... they were infact directed towards One LEO in general, that was a LEO in name only, strickly for so he could carry nationwide.


Last time I checked conserving the rights of every one is about in conservative as it gets.    But since all you ever think about is ME, ME, ME... its hard for you to see that.

What I don't like is some one using a loop hole in the law, to get what they want.    I do like, him becuase he says what he thinks, I just don't like what he does when it comes to CCWs.

As far as the post about CCWs being good anywhere, I disagree with that aswell.   Not only from a USCONs of states rights, but from a pratical side... tell me, do you know every single state law when it comes to where and when its illegal to carry?

Thats an issue you need to take up with your state, not use a federal law to bipass a state one.

While my state allows CCWs, my sherriff will not issuse them unless your a LEO, retired LEO, work for the DOJ or gave larage ammounst of cash to thier relection fund.( in fact recently he was nailed giving out permits to people that were prohibated from even owning guns, but had given thousands to him)

It also needs to be said, that if you beleave the only thing that will protect you and your family is a gun, chances are it won't.

AND MY PERSONAL  FAVORITE

Simple. I beleave LEO should not be a class, its an ouccpation...They should have to go thru the same process as every one else.  In other words, if the average person can not get one, a leo should not get one.
Also for the same reason why I don't think CCWs should be good in every state... the laws change from state to state, not only on where and when, but who.

there is a big diffrence between a infraction( ticket) and a felony.   

   Do you really think all of the LEO groups that are behind  gun control would still be behind them if they applied to them?     

trust me the same LEO groups that wanted CC for off duty officers nation wide will be against it for every one else.

There are alot of other professions that are at risk or more so then a LEO when it comes to people coming after them.   what about them?


THE ABOVE WERE CUT AND PASTED DIRECTLY FROM THE TREAD TAB SAYS I SHOULD RE READ
I don't think I'm the one who needs to re read those posts, you show much about yourself with your own words 

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[TAB]

Just got back from a trip. Boy this thread exploded...

Your correct about the teenager but the three year old may not make it to where she belongs. 
As for the the work parking, lot there aren't any within at least a mile. Ultimately I don't care about the work parking lot anyway (it's a policy). It's my car and I'll keep whatever I want in there...


You keep mentioning that this is about other peoples "rights". Is this like Roosevelts freedom from fear? Is there some hoplophobia going on here. Do you just have a fear of others carrying? I am totaly in dark as to how my carrying a concelled handgun violates anyone elses rights. I'm not religious but if I carried a pocket bible would that vioates someones rights as well? Please don't take these as insults I'm just trying to understand your point of view..

Do you have the right to restirct who and what comes on to your property... that is the right I speak of... if you beleave its ok for you to bring a gun against some ones wish on to thier property... when do you want me to set up a KKK rally on your front lawn?  ( I am not a member of the kkk, just using them as an example)   you can't thump the 2a with out thumping the rest of the USCONS  in this case the 1a for its free speach.

[TAB]

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TAB, YOU ARE FULL OF YOURSELF, and you are full of crap.

prove me wrong...

All you have done is say ME, ME, ME... insult people and post butt head smiles.  Yet I'm the one that is full of crap? 

Take a look in the mirror.

[tombogan03884]

prove me wrong...

All you have done is say ME, ME, ME... insult people and post butt head smiles.  Yet I'm the one that is full of crap? 

Take a look in the mirror.

Read the post I re posted , yes you are full of crap.
PS consider yourself proven wrong.
And the things I've said I don't apply to ME but GUN OWNERS in general Just think, EVERY ONE who carries concealed legally can say if you don't like don't take my money

[TAB]

 Really I'm full of crap becuase I beleave that the entire USCONs is important, not just 1 of the many amendments? 

I love that logic.

[tombogan03884]

Really I'm full of crap becuase I beleave that the entire USCONs is important, not just 1 of the many amendments? 

I love that logic.

Without that one the rest are toilet paper. take a couple days and work that out. By the way, I hope you apreciate the extra work i went to high lighting the areas where you DO bad mouth nationwide CC for ALL LEO's