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Re: Another reason to avoid Disney
« Reply #20 on: July 05, 2008, 11:06:33 PM »
They're about to get challenged:






http://www.wftv.com/news/16784153/detail.html

Security Guard Plans To Challenge Disney By Bringing Gun To Work - News Story - WFTV Orlando

Security Guard Plans To Challenge Disney By Bringing Gun To Work





POSTED: 5:40 pm EDT July 3, 2008
UPDATED: 6:08 pm EDT July 3, 2008

LAKE BUENA VISTA, Fla. -- A Disney security guard told Eyewitness News he's okay with being fired rather than go to work unprotected. Disney claims it's exempt from a new state law that allows employees to keep handguns in their cars.

VOTE: Allow Disney employees to have guns in cars

The employee Eyewitness News talked with is not concerned about safety at the park. He's concerned about a rise in crime everywhere else.

As a security guard, Edwin Sotomayer works strange hours and says he has a right to feel safe when he is commuting to and from the theme parks. He has been a Disney security guard for more than 13 years, but he's willing to lose his job to stand up for his right to bring a gun to work

"I am going to be a test tube of this new law. If I am the first one to get fired at Disney, let it be," he said.

Disney claims it's exempt from a new state law allowing employees to carry guns in their cars because it stores fireworks, but Sotomayer says Disney is violating his rights and he plans to challenge the company Friday by putting his gun in a case and keeping it in his car while he works security at Animal Kingdom.

"It's the law and the law is there to protect me. I hope somebody is listening to me up there too," he said.

Sotomayer said he wants to be able to protect himself from Orlando's growing crime problem

Channel 9 found a 43 percent increase in the number of calls for service to Disney in the last year, but also found the Orange County Sheriff's Office didn't file a report on most of the calls. Deputies said they will not file a report if the incident does not rise to the level of a crime.

Sotomayer said Disney is safe, but Orlando is not, and he has the right to keep a gun in his car so he is protected during his 23-mile commute to and from the theme park.

"The criminals don't care. If they have to kill someone, they will," he said.

Disney told Eyewitness News it respects Sotomayer's opinion, but safety is its top priority and employees who bring guns to work risk getting fired. Sotomayer has already hired an attorney.

He is not the only one who is upset. The NRA and the State Attorney General have also received complaints

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Re: Another reason to avoid Disney
« Reply #21 on: July 06, 2008, 12:45:37 AM »
They are too smart  to fall for that... they will just not let him into the parking lot.  Then they will fire him.
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Re: Another reason to avoid Disney
« Reply #22 on: July 06, 2008, 05:39:51 AM »
Please follow the link to the story and vote in the poll.

It is 93 to7 (%) to allow Disney employess to store in their car at work.
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Re: Another reason to avoid Disney
« Reply #23 on: July 06, 2008, 06:36:46 AM »
I'm shocked to learn that Disney stores fireworks in the employee parking lot! What BS is that? Would it not be more credible to just own up to their anti-gun beliefs? And it is not even anti-gun, it's pro-peace, love, kittens&puppies, fun, amity among men, which is great until the armed man, bent on violence, arrives, and the posted signs become irrelevant. That's when the Mouse calls for stout men with real guns to deal with the problem. And they are only minutes away.

Are the Disney security guards really unarmed??

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Re: Another reason to avoid Disney
« Reply #24 on: July 06, 2008, 06:49:06 AM »
Voted, still 93/7% with almost 8000 votes cast.

Of course the way the proposition is worded leaves a great deal to be desired:

"The NRA is taking aim at Disney. A new law just went on the books in Florida that says people are allowed to bring their guns to work, but it's not the case at Central Florida's largest employer. Do you think Disney employees should be allowed to bring guns to work?"

First, let's scare everyone, the big bad NRA is gunning for the areas largest employer.

Last, it is NOT about bringing them to work (i.e., into the park), only to the parking lot.

Typical mindless/liberal mediia?
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Re: Another reason to avoid Disney
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Re: Another reason to avoid Disney
« Reply #25 on: July 06, 2008, 07:01:20 AM »
Voted, still 93/7% with almost 8000 votes cast.

Of course the way the proposition is worded leaves a great deal to be desired:

"The NRA is taking aim at Disney. A new law just went on the books in Florida that says people are allowed to bring their guns to work, but it's not the case at Central Florida's largest employer. Do you think Disney employees should be allowed to bring guns to work?"

First, let's scare everyone, the big bad NRA is gunning for the areas largest employer.

Last, it is NOT about bringing them to work (i.e., into the park), only to the parking lot.

Typical mindless/liberal mediia?

replace with 'biased' and you have the right of it.
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Re: Another reason to avoid Disney
« Reply #26 on: July 06, 2008, 07:39:41 AM »
DDMack:
"Would it not be more credible to just own up to their anti-gun beliefs?"
They don't believe anyone should have weapons on their property.  My thought is that they are afraid of an employee going "Goofy" after hearing the theme to "It's A Small World" one too many times.  

"...until the armed man, bent on violence, arrives, and the posted signs become irrelevant."
This is the key point.  Whether it is an employee or someone from outside their kingdom, their employees are being denied the right to self protection on their way to and from work.  

"That's when the Mouse calls for stout men with real guns to deal with the problem."
The Mouse makes a lot of money for the state and for Disney.  But the Mouse has to answer to the law of the land and should this make it to court, the decision will be that employers and the state cannot trump the US Constitution.  Especially if there are no explosives being stored in the employee parking lot!  

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"First, let's scare everyone, the big bad NRA is gunning for the areas largest employer."
That was my take on that story too.  Almost made it sound like Eddie the Eagle was having baby mice and ducks for breakfast.  

"Last, it is NOT about bringing them to work (i.e., into the park), only to the parking lot."
I could be wrong but don't the employees at Disney have to park in a secure employee parking lot that is like a mile away from the actual park?  With the law in place that employees can bring a weapon to work and that there are no explosives/fireworks being stored in, on or under the employee parking lot, I don't see Disney having any legs on this one.  

Also wondering ... does Disney have the right to search someone's vehicle in their parking lot?

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Re: Another reason to avoid Disney
« Reply #27 on: July 06, 2008, 08:40:46 AM »
Today many (most?) corporate employers (Human Resources Departments) want to show they are fair and compassionate and have no reservations hiring unbalanced people.  HR departments have become all consuming in corporate America with their United Way giving punishment, special day parades, etc. etc. while punishing organizations that stand on moral principles of our founding like churches, Boy Scouts, etc.

HR departments will become corporate fascists if there is weak executive leadership twisting law to suit self-directed political goals.  I see it where I've worked.  Usually, it's not the stand-up guys that work in HR...it's the fringe element of society and generally wants to establish a corporate nanny-state with a gynocentric bent.  Rant off.

So...here we are, we must deny people a right to protect themselves to and from work so we can control what's in their personal vehicles.  If it is that big of a deal then I'm guessing everyone is passing through metal detectors after they exit the parking lot, eh?  No knives, blunt instruments, tools, etc. on location...right?  Hogfreakingwash.  It's about gun-hating agenda mixed with control.

It's a phantom control issue.  There is no significant employee problem..oh it does occur, but nothing like being accosted on the side of the road.  If that less than significant problem occurs where I work...then I would like to be able to defend myself.  Another example of trying to stop a crazy person by punishing everyone else...why must we persist in controlling the masses in failed attempts to mitigate a crazy person?  Because it "feels like" we've done something and, hey, control feels good to some people.
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Re: Another reason to avoid Disney
« Reply #28 on: July 06, 2008, 08:43:35 AM »
replace with 'biased' and you have the right of it.

I was giving them the benefit of the doubt with "mindless" as it is often apropos with a large percentage of the media.

Can't wait to hear from TAB on this thread!

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Re: Another reason to avoid Disney
« Reply #29 on: July 06, 2008, 08:45:43 AM »
I was giving them the benefit of the doubt with "mindless" as it is often apropos with a large percentage of the media.

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