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Martial Law: A License to Loot, a Permit to Plunder
« on: July 08, 2008, 11:38:43 AM »

I got this from a friend of mine in California..  I will share her note with me.. and then give you the website..

Note:
 I have been repeatedly told to take this website with a grain of
salt, but I highly recommend reading  this article. One other note...I can't
speak for other states but in California, even during, before or after a
disaster, police, rescue and firefighters were not permitted to force you to
leave your homes, even though they sometimes acted  or talked like it. Often
their bluff worked and people left, only to be prevented from returning.
THAT they could legally do..prevent you from returning.  After reading this
article, you may want to check out your own state's laws on such...that is
if you can find anyone who actually knows. Rescue personnel are frequently
advised to tell citizens otherwise so as to get them out of their way.  The
answer may be in your state's constitution or statues.  If
you intended to remain in your home to save your animals, possessions,
etc,I, personally, would advise quietly doing what you intended on doing and
not arguing with the authorities...just hide somewhere or disappear until
they have gone on to the next home.  Telling them what they want to hear
focuses their attention elsewhere.  I am speaking of rescue personnel here.
What the military might  be allowed to legally do is beyond my scope. I
would also bet good money that if  asked, your local sheriff or firefighter
would tell you you HAVE to leave.  Be prepared with a good legal argument,
if absolutely necessary.  Many many homes in Southern Calif. could have been
saved over the years if the owners had stayed and wet the roofs and eaves
down.  After floods, there was always looting because rescue personnel are
instructed to say anything to get people out of the area because of
so-called unsafe conditions. Every situation is different and one size does
not fit all. Of course lives are saved by evacuating people but sensible
people with decent eyesight can usually tell if a house if about to fall on
them .
 But then again.. you don't want to be caught doing your own thinking
now do you....?
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Re: Martial Law: A License to Loot, a Permit to Plunder
« Reply #1 on: July 08, 2008, 11:46:50 AM »
M'ette,
You always have such GREAT info on ALL kinds of things !!  :)
This place would'nt be the same without your wit. ;D
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Re: Martial Law: A License to Loot, a Permit to Plunder
« Reply #2 on: July 08, 2008, 12:38:52 PM »
While they may not have the authority to actually MAKE you leave, if a Deputy came to the door and said to get out and I knew that something bad was headed my way I'm GONE!!  Last time I checked I could replace "stuff."  Sure staying and wetting your house MAY help mitigate the damage but the water from the garden hose won't stop a wildfire or even slow it down.  Ask all the Gulf Coast residents about not leaving when told to.  They weren't victims, they were IDIOTS.  Don't blame the government if you're not smart enough to protect yourself.
When seconds mean the difference between life and death, the police will be minutes away.

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Re: Martial Law: A License to Loot, a Permit to Plunder
« Reply #3 on: July 08, 2008, 06:13:57 PM »
if they come to my house and tell me of great danger headed my way and I can see it well hen I have to make the right choice that's why I believe in having the right survival gear already packed and ready  to load , when you have little ones you need to get them out of harms way as there is no possible way you could fight a raging wildfire and watch them at the same time( I know that goes with out saying).I guess my point is being prepared is a lot better than being panicked.
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Re: Martial Law: A License to Loot, a Permit to Plunder
« Reply #4 on: July 08, 2008, 07:50:26 PM »
Here in hurricane country, if the "authorities" issue a mandatory evacuation, it can't be enforced against homeowners. The Castle Doctrine is one last stronghold here, BUT a BIG however is if the SHTF, don't call 911 in the middle of a CAT3 or 4 and ask for help.

I was here for the last Bertha, big smack in our area, and 24 hours prior, the police gave us the deal. You wanna stay? Fine, we can't guarantee ANY rescue when the water is coming up your stairs.

Some left, some stayed (me), Oh, and there was no looting on my flooded street. My 1911, and Rem 870, and neighbors with a Win. 30-30, etc,.. Very Long 4 days. 

Sorry for CA. But then again,... its CA.
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Re: Martial Law: A License to Loot, a Permit to Plunder
« Reply #5 on: July 09, 2008, 02:49:04 AM »
Here in hurricane country, if the "authorities" issue a mandatory evacuation, it can't be enforced against homeowners. The Castle Doctrine is one last stronghold here, BUT a BIG however is if the SHTF, don't call 911 in the middle of a CAT3 or 4 and ask for help.

I was here for the last Bertha, big smack in our area, and 24 hours prior, the police gave us the deal. You wanna stay? Fine, we can't guarantee ANY rescue when the water is coming up your stairs.

Some left, some stayed (me), Oh, and there was no looting on my flooded street. My 1911, and Rem 870, and neighbors with a Win. 30-30, etc,.. Very Long 4 days. 

Sorry for CA. But then again,... its CA.

I will not disagree with the folks who say"If you see a disaster coming your way you SHOULD get out" But I would respond A LOT better to being told I'm on my own than being told I have to leave or else. That would make me stay just for spite.

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Re: Martial Law: A License to Loot, a Permit to Plunder
« Reply #6 on: July 09, 2008, 04:03:55 AM »
I don't remember Bertha being that strong in Paradise Point, was it that bad in Wilmington? We left before Fran hit NC but I heard it was pretty bad. During Burtha though everybody stayed where we lived, no one evacuated; still took them 5 days to restore power.
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Re: Martial Law: A License to Loot, a Permit to Plunder
« Reply #7 on: July 09, 2008, 05:25:31 AM »
I don't remember Bertha being that strong in Paradise Point, was it that bad in Wilmington? We left before Fran hit NC but I heard it was pretty bad. During Burtha though everybody stayed where we lived, no one evacuated; still took them 5 days to restore power.

All the island communities with only 1 bridge on or off, Wrightsville, Figure Eight, Carolina Beaches all had "evac" orders. They close the bridges at sustained 50 mph. On Carolina Beach, where I lived at the time, most of the locals did stay. Fran was worse but stayed for that one also. Water to bottom of STOP sign.  But the houses are on stilts for a reason when your a block away from the beach.

Where they come ashore means alot. A CAT 5 direct hit here in Wilm? I would leave because there would be nothing left to save or protect.
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