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Re: Hand gun hunting calibers
« Reply #10 on: July 08, 2017, 10:30:31 AM »
Once you get past the dumb regulations that govern hunting (For fun watch a YouTube by Ted Nugent on archery draw weight), it is just like self defense choice: Energy and bullet performance at given distance on given animal.
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Re: Hand gun hunting calibers
« Reply #11 on: July 08, 2017, 10:48:08 AM »
Speaking of Ted Nugent,He carries and hunts with a 10mm,He has taken deer and wild hogs with it,I would think if it takes down a hog, it will do anything else you need it to do.
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Re: Hand gun hunting calibers
« Reply #12 on: July 08, 2017, 12:37:33 PM »
Glock G-40 is designed for hunting, 6inch barrel and reddot sight.
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Mike regulations don't enter into this, it's not about getting a license and what not. Just doing what you have to do. Dealing with things that pop up in life.

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Re: Hand gun hunting calibers
« Reply #13 on: July 08, 2017, 03:57:43 PM »
I've taken deer with a .41 Magnum.  They dropped really fast.  Never shoulda sold that gun.  I can hunt deer here with the .45 ACP.  5 inch barrel minimum.  If I were to do so, I would use a hot (+P range) hand loaded hard cast bullet in the 230 grain range.  The Ruger RedHawk is not easy to conceal, but, a 1911 just seems to disappear on my ever expanding waistline.  There are multiple options for 10mm on the 1911 platform.
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Re: Hand gun hunting calibers
« Reply #14 on: July 08, 2017, 05:29:56 PM »

Mike regulations don't enter into this, it's not about getting a license and what not. Just doing what you have to do. Dealing with things that pop up in life.
I thought this was about hunting with a handgun.  If not, then it is still all about the basics of self defense choices.
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Re: Hand gun hunting calibers
« Reply #15 on: July 08, 2017, 09:10:11 PM »
Too small for deer, to large to carry concealed.  What am I to do???  :-\

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Re: Hand gun hunting calibers
« Reply #16 on: July 09, 2017, 05:58:34 AM »
Too small for deer, to large to carry concealed.  What am I to do???  :-\



Auction, then buy a fish and a fowl since this is neither. LOL. Or trade for a TC Encore and 2  barrels. .22LR and 14 inch 45/70 , small enough for squirrels and big enough for elephant .

I thought this was about hunting with a handgun.  If not, then it is still all about the basics of self defense choices.

My thinking is that while a pistol suitable for human attackers isn't enough for animals, the reverse is not true. So that is my baseline for a "do it all" pistol.

Looks like it's down to 10mm and 357 which is OK .
Since I grew up shooting 357  my next project is to try out a 10 mm.


A thought just crossed my mind, If a 45 cal 230 FMJ wallops a 200 lb person so effectively, Why has only one comment suggested it for 200 pound deer ? Are there things I'm not taking into account ? Maybe greater stability of 4 hooves versus 2 feet, more points of contact spreading the shock, denser bone ?

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Re: Hand gun hunting calibers
« Reply #17 on: July 09, 2017, 07:36:04 AM »
A thought just crossed my mind, If a 45 cal 230 FMJ wallops a 200 lb person so effectively, Why has only one comment suggested it for 200 pound deer ? Are there things I'm not taking into account ? Maybe greater stability of 4 hooves versus 2 feet, more points of contact spreading the shock, denser bone ?

Off the cuff, a human, shot in the chest by a .45ACP 'knows' (by conditioning from movies and print) that they are dead.  A deer not so much.  A deer will run for that 50 to 100 yards before their lungs give out.
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Re: Hand gun hunting calibers
« Reply #18 on: July 09, 2017, 07:44:04 AM »
Off the cuff, a human, shot in the chest by a .45ACP 'knows' (by conditioning from movies and print) that they are dead.  A deer not so much.  A deer will run for that 50 to 100 yards before their lungs give out.

I had thought of "tenacity", but didn't mention it to see if any one else would.
Most of the African writer's mention that unless you get a one shot kill most of the game animals take a butt load of killing. Capstick mentions animals running a couple hundred yards with heart and lungs both destroyed.

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Re: Hand gun hunting calibers
« Reply #19 on: July 09, 2017, 08:31:34 AM »
My thought on the 45 is that if you stretch the range the 10MM speed takes over.  So, I went to http://gundata.org/ballistic-calculator/ and compared a 1075 fps Corbon in 45 ACP to a 1300 fps round in 10MM.  Both zeroed at 100 yards the 10MM drops 9.5"+/- at 150 yards and the 45 ACP drops 13.5" at 150 yards. 

Not significant.  My thinking was that it was.  Oh well. 

Good suggestion on the XP-100.  It only took me 50 years of waiting to get one....I think I'll run with it blindly trying to find something to shoot with it for a few more months...  ;D
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