What is the difference?

[CLP]

  Like all of you I am having a real hard time with this election cycle.  The thought of President Hillary or President Obama really make  me sick.  And when that thought comes in my my mind I think of all the scenarios that come with it.
1.  Schumer, Feinstein, Kerry etc, to SCOTUS
2.  Passage of HR1022 with lots of amendments.
3.  Ammo is already high price, but a sizeable tax would be ok
etc, etc
I don't like McCain 1 grain but if he's the nominee, I'll vote for him.
2A people always had enemy's, but not as threatening as today.

[Hazcat]

CLP,

I of course respect your right to vote as you wish but I do disagree with your decision.

Here is my thinking.

McCain is just as bad as HilObama on 2A, Taxes, amnesty, illegal immigration and much more. soooo

If we vote McCain in, the D congress will vote for all of the above and many of the Rs will go along as we (the people) voted in an R POTUS that has the same agenda so they (the Rs) will think we must agree.

If HilObama is POTUS then MAYBE the Rs will get a backbone and try to halt much of the 'crap' and will be more inclined to listen to us when we complain about the D direction.

In any case the POTUS will get the blame for it all and I would rather have a D get blamed.

In the meantime we support all of the R we can for Congress in 2008 and I think we will be in a better position for Congress 2010 as the country will be screaming for a change.

[Bill Stryker]

Hazcat,
I shed blood and time to defend your right to talk, think and act anyway you please.
But on this one, IMO you are advocating cutting off your nose to spite your face.

[Hazcat]

Bill,

I am not doing this out of 'spite'.  I cannot bend my principles far enough to permit me to vote for McCain.  I think he is a disaster for this country.  Yes HilObama is worse but does that mean I have to support the lesser?

[tombogan03884]

With the economy slumping and the average voter having a memory span of about 2 days, It is likely that the next POTUS will be blamed for, Higher gas prices, unemployment, Higher taxes, and continuing warfare in Iraq and possibly Iran. Hazcat may have a valid point. Reagan got elected because of 4 years of carter. I personaly would slit my throat before I would vote for either of those socialist scum so will vote third party rather than the manchurian candidate, But it iIS food for thought.

[Sponsor]

[clayflingythingy]

Since no one among us has a crystal ball, hanging our hat on the hope of a Rep resurgence in 2010/2012 is a slim one. An Obama/Hillary victory might set the stage for 20 years of Dem dominance for all we know.

If the Supremes rule against indviual right intrepretation of the 2A it's all over anyway so I guess your vote for Obama/Hillary won't really matter.

[Hazcat]

Clay,

I am NOT voting for Hil/Obama.

[Bill Stryker]

Hazcat,
A vote for a 3d party is a vote for Hilobama. IMO
Glad you are not voting out of spite, but that's the way your posts have seemed to me for a while.
Just be sure to vote the 2A candidates for House and Senate. If we have enough there it may not matter who is POTUS.
I will vote for the Republican this time. Because I am sure the Republican will be better for the country than either of the Dems. I will vote for the House and Senate for whoever is better on the 2A. I am quite sure that will not be Sen Levin. I am also pretty sure he will be reelected here anyway. He has not been our friend at all.

[DDMac]

I understand that S. Richard Burr, R-NC is on McCain's short list for VP. He has a very good 2A record, and McCain might get the sniffles.   Mac.

[gunman42782]

Hazcat,
A vote for a 3d party is a vote for Hilobama. IMO

I completely disagree.  I have used this same reasoning in the past, so I don't fault you for saying it (as I said in the original post).  However, voting for the lesser of two evils is still voting for evil.  McCain is NO friend to gun owners.  You can try and justify it anyway you would like, but a vote for McCain is no different than a vote for Hillary or Obama.