.410

[Badgersmilk]

Seems more and more the little .410 is gaining popularity.  

http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2009/12/03/winchester-pdx1-self-defense-shotshell-ammo/

http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2009/06/12/birdshot-for-self-defense-federal-say-yes/

I'm not personally a fan of the .410 pistols for much other than a "camp gun", but a little pistol grip, 18" double barrel would be fun!

Still, what's to be gained over a 12 gauge?  You can manage recoil by ammo choice.

[Ulmus]

I think it depends on the shooter.

For people who are frail from extreme age, injuries, or just plain bad health, a 410 is much better than a 12 gauge.  They might not even be able to pick up and hold a 12 gauge proprely, let alone handle the recoil of firing one.

(This is also why I'm very curious about Kel Tec's new PLR-30 handgun.)

[Badgersmilk]

I think if the little .22 mag. pistol had adjustable sights it'd be a great squirrel / rabbit / coon gun.  I'm still hoping Ruger picks up on the .22 mag. idea as an option in the Mark III!

I've never owned a .410 in any form...  Just not yet understanding the appeal.    Is ammo ubber cheap like it is for .22's?

[ericire12]

Bane talked about the new Winchester rounds in the podcast....

I personally wonder why they are using those disc shaped rounds as apposed to traditional round buck.


p.s. I posted a long time ago that .410 buck and ball would be the way to go
http://www.downrange.tv/forum/index.php?topic=4437.msg52112#msg52112

[pequin06]

Is ammo ubber cheap like it is for .22's?

Nope! I wish it was but that's not the case.

The only .410 I own is my M6 Scout. Shot some clays with it last weekend.

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[Badgersmilk]

Bane talked about the new Winchester rounds in the podcast....

I personally wonder why they are using those disc shaped rounds as apposed to traditional round buck.


p.s. I posted a long time ago that .410 buck and ball would be the way to go
http://www.downrange.tv/forum/index.php?topic=4437.msg52112#msg52112

I'd guess the discs just allow for more bore sized projectiles in less overall cartridge length.  Doesn't seem like they'd lend anything to accuracy at any range.    

I gotta check out that podcast.

[r_w]

When box-o-truth did their review of the judge way back when, all the round buck came out the muzzle as disc shaped anyway.  It is awful hard to get enough buffer, shot, AND powder into a 410 shell. 

The judge really has changed the 410 the same way the keltec and ruger changed the 380.  The level of performance from the new ammo is like upsizing the gun 2 sizes compared to ammo just a few years ago. 

One thing I would like to see is a 45 judge load--a solid 230 grain ballistic tip hollowpoint loaded into a full-length brass case so it is 2 3/4 or 3" long to avoid jumping the gap.  Not to mention it would look awesome loading something resembling a 45-110 into a concealable revolver. 

[bushpilot267]

REAL MEN SHOOT .410's !

I use a .410 O/U and SXS for quail hunting.  More of a challenge; either a clean hit or clean miss.

You cannot believe what the .410 will do as a hunting gun.

On doves, in Argentina, this is the gun to have.  Thousands of shots a day will beat you to black and blue UNLESS you use a .410.

You would be a mazed by this gauge if you will try it.

[bulldog75]

The .410 is a excellent gun. I tested some rounds (12 guage) that were disk like that and it would open my pattern up quicker. I think the reasoning behind this is shooting these rounds at close range through a shotgun would be a good choice for home defense in a small caliber like the .410.

[TAB]

the only real diffrence between the guages is the ammount of shot.