#4 buckshot for home defense?

[tt11758]

That is the key phrase that goes with any gun - caliber or gauge!  Shoot what you got, shoot what you can handle, and practice with them!

ZACTLY!!!

A .22 in your hand is a MUCH more effective SD tool than a 12 gauge locked in the safe.

[Timothy]

ZACTLY!!!

A .22 in your hand is a MUCH more effective SD tool than a 12 gauge locked in the safe.

Heck, a big stick is better than a 12 ga locked in a safe!

Shillelagh

Google that...if it's good enuf for a crazy Mick, it's good enuf for anyone...since I'm half crazy Mick, it's allowed by Gaelic custom!  Probably a law somewhere if anyone could read the fuggin Gaelic language!

 

[Solus]

Heck, a big stick is better than a 12 ga locked in a safe!

Shillelagh

Google that...if it's good enuf for a crazy Mick, it's good enuf for anyone...since I'm half crazy Mick, it's allowed by Gaelic custom!  Probably a law somewhere if anyone could read the fuggin Gaelic language!

 

The Blackthorn bush is found throughout Ireland and the British Isles. It has been prized for centuries as a material for premium walking sticks. The original Blackthorn sticks were 2 to 4 foot long Irish shillelaghs (the national weapon of rural Ireland). In expert hands the shillelagh was so fearsome that during the final occupation of Ireland, the English outlawed it. To get around the law, the Irish turned the shillelagh into a 3-foot walking stick. The English didn't want to appear unreasonable by outlawing walking sticks too, so the Irish kept their modified shillelaghs and the world gained a beautiful and functional walking stick known simply as the Blackthorn.

[tombogan03884]

I hate to be the killjoy here but perhaps if the "wild Micks" had used something a bit more potent than a Shillelagh it would not have taken them 600 years to defeat the Tower Muskets, Brown Bess's, Martini's, Lee Enfields and FAL's of the British Army.

[Timothy]

I hate to be the killjoy here but perhaps if the "wild Micks" had used something a bit more potent than a Shillelagh it would not have taken them 600 years to defeat the Tower Muskets, Brown Bess's, Martini's, Lee Enfields and FAL's of the British Army.

Did ya ever think we're a bit slow on the uptake?

 

Erin go Bragh, Bogan!

Timothy SEAN

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[tombogan03884]

Up your Republic !
The Irish have won every European or American war since  Cromwell's day.
It was easy to do since they have fought on both sides of every European or American war since  Cromwell's day.

[fightingquaker13]

As for bird shot, there are Ts and BBs, made for turkey and goose. Either should be good for across the room. Here's the conudrum. Both are made in steel (same with most #2s and #4s). This means less foot pounds. But, it also means greater dissapation of energy. OTOH, greater pentration as they're going faster, but less likelyhood of continuing to penetrate. Thoughts?

[MikeBjerum]

As for bird shot, there are Ts and BBs, made for turkey and goose. Either should be good for across the room. Here's the conudrum. Both are made in steel (same with most #2s and #4s). This means less foot pounds. But, it also means greater dissapation of energy. OTOH, greater pentration as they're going faster, but less likelyhood of continuing to penetrate. Thoughts?

What 

They come in lead!

[fightingquaker13]

Not the ones you buy if you're a duck hunter as the things are illegal for waterfowl (and who buys #2s, #4s or BBs if not for waterfowl?). I've got a case load of each. So the question is, how will they do as SD rounds? I'm just curious as to whether anyone has any info.

[tombogan03884]

Steel ? Or Bismuth ?