CLIPS KILL - ( I know this will be a shock to Haz)

[alfsauve]

The latest from the Brady Center with emphasis in bold being mine. 

Who knew?  Who knew that "clips" are people killers.

Brady Campaign to Prevent Gun Violence
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CALL YOUR U.S. REPRESENTATIVE TODAY 
Ban Large Capacity Ammunition Clips

Dear sheepal

Columbine: 13 killed, 23 wounded. Virginia Tech: 32 killed, 17 wounded. Fort Hood: 13 killed, 34 wounded. And now Tucson: 6 people killed and another 13 wounded, including Congresswoman Gabrielle Giffords, in a matter of seconds.

What do these tragedies have in common? The shooters used large capacity ammunition magazines to kill a lot of people in a short amount of time.

It's time to ban these people-killing ammunition magazines once and for all.

Strong legislation, H.R. 308, has been introduced by Rep. Carolyn McCarthy (D-NY) to ban large capacity ammunition magazines, like the one used by the Tucson shooter.

[fightingquaker13]

Damn, here I thought it was guns I had to watch out for. Now apparently the guns are blameless, its just the "people killing magazines". A step in the right direction?
FQ13

[twyacht]

I'd like to ban all vehicles with more than 100 horsepower.

Vehicles with more power than that are dangerous, and especially those damned SUV's, they are indiscriminate in they're blatant disregard for human life.

How dare folks want high powered vehicles for their daily commutes. THIS MUST BE STOPPED!!!!!

The Horror....

Kinda sounds stooooopid don't it?

[fightingquaker13]

I'd like to ban all vehicles with more than 100 horsepower.

Vehicles with more power than that are dangerous, and especially those damned SUV's, they are indiscriminate in they're blatant disregard for human life.

How dare folks want high powered vehicles for their daily commutes. THIS MUST BE STOPPED!!!!!

The Horror....

Kinda sounds stooooopid don't it?

Not to the Greens. I had a sticker stuck on my truck window making basially that point, as well as how I was killing the planet. Likewise, EArTH FIRST has burned a few SUvs at the dealership. Damn those machines! Can't trust them.
One of my favorite lessons was telling a student who was talking about the evils of SUVs about how I'd pulled a guy in a Prius out of a snow bank in a parking lot the day before. "How many MPGs was Earth Boy getting? None, because his ass was  stuck".
FQ13

[tombogan03884]

I knew 2 guys who got killed in a 90 HP vehicle.

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[oldkat69]

  I hate to get all serious on you guys but lets look at these incidents for a bit:

Virginia Tech: 49 casualties, 32 killed, 17 wounded. "Gun Free Zone",   authorities wait outside until the evil doer is done

Fort Hood: 47 casualties,13 killed, 34 wounded.  "Gun Free Zone", "when seconds counted authorities were minutes away"

Columbine: 39 casualties, 13 killed, 23 wounded.  "Gun Free Zone",   authorities waited outside until the evil doers were
                                                                     done.

Tucson: 19 casualties, 6 people killed, 13 wounded.  Constitutional Carry Zone  Armed and unarmed citizens stop the evil
                                                                          doer in a matter of seconds and prevent even more casualties.

At this point  A.C.P. 45 trumps  H.R. 308, as introduced by Rep. Carolyn McCarthy (D-NY) to ban large capacity ammunition magazines, like the one used by the Tucson shooter.

[TAB]

my understand is no one drew on him, he was rushed.


there is also a diffrence between shooting from the middle of a crowd and shooting around the out side.

[jaybet]

I read somewhere that a couple of the people who jumped him were carrying and declined to draw on him, instead tackling him. Doesn't THAT count for something? Why doesn't THAT get out in the media? (Assuming it's true)

[PegLeg45]

I read somewhere that a couple of the people who jumped him were carrying and declined to draw on him, instead tackling him. Doesn't THAT count for something? Why doesn't THAT get out in the media? (Assuming it's true)

From all indications it is true.

There was a video on here, in another thread, with an interview of a local CCW (Joe Zamudio) who helped subdue the shooter.
Basically the guy said he couldn't tell who the "bad guy" was in the fracas, so he chose not to draw his weapon at the time. When he sets the record straight in the interview, suddenly they are "out of time".....

**Aha....found it:
http://www.downrange.tv/forum/index.php?topic=15199.0

[TAB]

My $.02  Having a ccw means nothing. 

Having one does not make you a shooter, great at SD, tactically mind ful  etc etc


Infact I'd say most of the people that I've met over the years(remember I traveld all over the us working in construction) that had a ccw are NOT prepared.  Many have had no idea what would happen if they need to use the gun or even when it is or is not a good idea to draw it.

There are those that flat out would not use it,( but still have it     ) to those that are "gung hoe"  ( you know stop a bank robbery when no shots have been fired)

So in my mind all that some one saying they have a ccw means is they filled out some paper work and paid a fee.