CLIPS KILL - ( I know this will be a shock to Haz)

[tt11758]

My exp is for every 1 ccw holder that "gets it" and gets training/practice there are atleast 25 that don't.

I'd bet if we really looked into it that number would be closer to 1 in a hundred.


Most of the so called heros, that have done simlar things( not always stoping a man with a gun) will tell you that if they had to think about it, they would not have done it.

Can you cite a source for your ratio, or is this just another in a long line of tidbits that the all-knowing, all-powerful TAB pulled out of his ass?

[TAB]

Can you cite a source for your ratio, or is this just another in a long line of tidbits that the all-knowing, all-powerful TAB pulled out of his ass?

I take it reading comprehension is not taught in iowa...

[JC5123]

Can you cite a source for your ratio, or is this just another in a long line of tidbits that the all-knowing, all-powerful TAB pulled out of his ass?

Racist!!!!

[jaybet]

  the rudest was the upper eastern coast. 

Hey...I resemble that remark. I got yer f*****g "rude" RIGHT HERE!

[tombogan03884]

 the rudest was the upper eastern coast.

North of  Mass. and East of Vermont there is a good reason for that.
We have dealt with so many a**holes from Mass South and NY West.

[Sponsor]

[oldkat69]

I hate to get all serious on you guys but lets look at these incidents for a bit:

Virginia Tech: 49 casualties, 32 killed, 17 wounded. "Gun Free Zone",   authorities wait outside until the evil doer is done

Fort Hood: 47 casualties,13 killed, 34 wounded.  "Gun Free Zone", "when seconds counted authorities were minutes away"

Columbine: 39 casualties, 13 killed, 23 wounded.  "Gun Free Zone",   authorities waited outside until the evil doers were
                                                                     done.

Tucson: 19 casualties, 6 people killed, 13 wounded.  Constitutional Carry Zone  Armed and unarmed citizens stop the evil
                                                                          doer in a matter of seconds and prevent even more casualties.

At this point  A.C.P. 45 trumps  H.R. 308, as introduced by Rep. Carolyn McCarthy (D-NY) to ban large capacity ammunition magazines, like the one used by the Tucson shooter.

   Norway;  146 casualties,  76 killed, 70 wounded  "Gun Free Zone",  authorities waited until they had permission to get their firearms to confront the evil doer

[MikeBjerum]

I take it reading comprehension is not taught in iowa...

I know that I'm only about six months late to this party, but TAB I need an answer:

You made a comment about people that carry and their training.  Tom asked if you had facts, and this is how your reply.  I went back an reread everything, and all I find is people, including you, saying things like "in my experience" and the like.  Do you have facts or did you just pull these numbers out of your ass?  (sound familure)

[tombogan03884]

It's TAB, you know what he's like.

[tt11758]

I take it reading comprehension is not taught in iowa...

Not enough time to teach reading comprehension.  Here they're too busy teaching capitalization, spelling and sentence structure.

[MikeBjerum]

Not enough time to teach reading comprehension.  Here they're too busy teaching capitalization, spelling and sentence structure.

Besides, the reading teachers are busy installing Astroturf to stop the cheerleaders from grazing