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Re: Questions for any armed security guards out there.
« Reply #20 on: March 02, 2011, 12:26:29 PM »
I'd buy what ever the company recomends... 

If I had my choice, I'd buy a LE turn in 3rd gen smith.  You can pick one up for about $350, they are built very stong, are very reliable and actually shoot very well.   There only down side is mags are about $50 each.  The good news is most le turn ins come with 2 or 3 mags, so you are covered.
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Re: Questions for any armed security guards out there.
« Reply #21 on: March 02, 2011, 12:39:29 PM »
Wow, If I were a "high profile elected official" I wouldn't allow my security detail to carry a Sigma.  It, arguable, has one of the worst trigger pulls and there is little to nothing that can be done to improve it.  People in the shop affectionately call it the "stigma."

you think the protecteee know or cares about the details - a gun is a gun to most folks
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Re: Questions for any armed security guards out there.
« Reply #22 on: March 03, 2011, 08:45:31 PM »
High profile elected officials only care about their next election.

So can you use +P ammo in 9 or .38 special?
I'm guessing the .380 is used as a BUG?

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Re: Questions for any armed security guards out there.
« Reply #23 on: March 03, 2011, 09:21:06 PM »
During my 3 year tour as a Nuclear Security Officer at the local Nuke power plant, we were issued Berreta 92's (compact version) in 9mm. Start of shift was issued my sidearm, got my long gun from the officer I was relieving at the post and then turned in my sidearm at the end of shift. Basically everything was supplied by the Security Contractor.
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Re: Questions for any armed security guards out there.
« Reply #24 on: March 04, 2011, 08:50:57 PM »
This is all great information.  It's also helping me learn what sort of security job are being done. I was truly expecting to be guarding some sort of warehouse or something along those lines.

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Re: Questions for any armed security guards out there.
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Re: Questions for any armed security guards out there.
« Reply #25 on: March 04, 2011, 08:59:36 PM »
During my 3 year tour as a Nuclear Security Officer at the local Nuke power plant, we were issued Berreta 92's (compact version) in 9mm. Start of shift was issued my sidearm, got my long gun from the officer I was relieving at the post and then turned in my sidearm at the end of shift. Basically everything was supplied by the Security Contractor.

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Re: Questions for any armed security guards out there.
« Reply #26 on: March 05, 2011, 07:49:44 AM »
In Florida with an armed security or PI license you are restricted to a .38spl (or .357 mag with .38spl ammo, get caught with .357 amm and lose your license) or 9mm. I have either/and/or armed security, PI or personal protection specialist licenses in 8 different states and I believe 4 of those have similar restrictions.

Hmm.....357Mag revolver with .38SPL ammo only.....this looks like a problem a reloader can solve easily....  ;)
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Re: Questions for any armed security guards out there.
« Reply #27 on: March 05, 2011, 08:36:39 AM »
Hmm.....357Mag revolver with .38SPL ammo only.....this looks like a problem a reloader can solve easily....  ;)


Why?  there are tons and tons of great comm'l 38 spl loads( and even +p and +p+)  no reason what so ever to go with reloads.

thats a legal can of worms, best left unopened.
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Re: Questions for any armed security guards out there.
« Reply #28 on: March 05, 2011, 03:53:21 PM »

Why?  there are tons and tons of great comm'l 38 spl loads( and even +p and +p+)  no reason what so ever to go with reloads.

thats a legal can of worms, best left unopened.
Exactly, there's no written restrictions on +P so there are plenty of good loads out there. Being someone who's sat through a (civil) court case and who had to testify for a co-worker who shot someone, listening to the plaintiff's (dumb ass who deserved to get shot but sued anyway) attorney try to make a federal case of every one of even the slightest modifications to the pistol "so these night sights are to make it easier for you to attempt to kill someone in the dark, before you can properly identify them?" I would NEVER in any situation use handloads in a self defense or duty weapon. You would spend hours in cross exams trying to explain why you "had to custom engineer a more deadly bullet since you were out to be a more efficient killer and nothing on the market would satisfy your taste for blood". No thanks, I'd rather use a well known factory load that is established within the law enforcement community, even for my personal self defense uses. That's why I always laugh when I see those ads for the DIRT ammo, I don't want to load anything I might have to use with an ammo that advertises itself as a more efficient killer.
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Re: Questions for any armed security guards out there.
« Reply #29 on: March 05, 2011, 04:03:02 PM »
Exactly, there's no written restrictions on +P so there are plenty of good loads out there. Being someone who's sat through a (civil) court case and who had to testify for a co-worker who shot someone, listening to the plaintiff's (dumb ass who deserved to get shot but sued anyway) attorney try to make a federal case of every one of even the slightest modifications to the pistol "so these night sights are to make it easier for you to attempt to kill someone in the dark, before you can properly identify them?" I would NEVER in any situation use handloads in a self defense or duty weapon. You would spend hours in cross exams trying to explain why you "had to custom engineer a more deadly bullet since you were out to be a more efficient killer and nothing on the market would satisfy your taste for blood". No thanks, I'd rather use a well known factory load that is established within the law enforcement community, even for my personal self defense uses. That's why I always laugh when I see those ads for the DIRT ammo, I don't want to load anything I might have to use with an ammo that advertises itself as a more efficient killer.


Well stated, my friend.  I might even suggest asking your local constabulary what kind of loads they carry in their duty weapons.  If it's good enough for the cops, it's good enough for me.
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