Where does the hatred of guns come from?

[BBJohnnyT]

The gun haters have always been around, but boy, have they become emboldened lately.  In listening to all the noise from them and the media lately, you would think that AR-15s, and guns in general, are the Devil. 

But why do they hate guns so much and why is it that the vast majority of gun haters are liberal Statists? What is the root source of this hatred? I gave it much thought and came up with this... Their hatred of firearms has nothing to do with "saving lives" or "protecting children". They simply hate what guns represent. Things like liberty, challenges to the whims of the State, self-reliance and protection. These values are anathema to their Collective minds. A gun is a common tool of those believe in Individualism instead of Collectivism. And since most liberal Statists are Secularists at heart, their only recourse is more laws, since government is their god.  Laws are the only redoubt of Secularists, as Gov Perry eloquently stated today.

Simple as that.

[Solus]

I agree, BB, with most of it.

I have called that phenomenon The Pringles Syndrome.

The need and desire for everyone to fit in the same 'can' and stack nicely. 

No one who is individual enough to own and become proficient with firearms will every be made to climb into that can.  They might foolishly do it, but they can't be counted on to do it and they can resist if forced.

Most liberal Statists might be Secularists, but that does not mean Secularists tend to be Statists or that non-Secularists tend not to be.  I see a lot of conformity in non-Secularists groups.. just substituting one source of proscribed behavior with another.

[oldkat69]

   I think Lt Col. Dave Grossman would attribute it to denial.

If we acknowledge the existence of firearms then we must acknowledge the existence of both good and EVIL and that

firearms can be used either for good or evil.   That being the case a person must be responsible for his her own conduct and prepare

for the conduct of others though they can not control it.  Unfortunately the liberal mind response to this is best displayed by the photo below.

[tombogan03884]

Look at who, besides our own subversives, have implemented arms control through the centuries and it becomes blindingly clear .
Lets list more recent examples 3, The Soviet Union, Nazi Germany, and communist China .
The only purpose of gun control is to enable oppression of the population by denying them the means of effective resistance.

[BBJohnnyT]

Most liberal Statists might be Secularists, but that does not mean Secularists tend to be Statists or that non-Secularists tend not to be.  I see a lot of conformity in non-Secularists groups.. just substituting one source of proscribed behavior with another.

Good point.  Individualism/Collectivism and Secularism/Spiritualism are not bound to each other.  Just from my experience, almost all of the hard core anti-gunners I've encountered seem to be Statists who are both Collectivists and Secularists.  In thinking about it some more, it seems that being a Secularist or Spiritualist doesn't have as much bearing.  But I've never met a Collectivist who liked a gun.

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[BBJohnnyT]

Look at who, besides our own subversives, have implemented arms control through the centuries and it becomes blindingly clear .
Lets list more recent examples 3, The Soviet Union, Nazi Germany, and communist China .

Exactly.  They are all Collectivist regimes, regardless of their "right wing/left wing" ideologies.  Collectivists do not tolerate challenges to State authority.

[BBJohnnyT]

BTW, this series is probably the best I've seen on clearly describing the differences between Individualism and Collectivism.  As you'll see, it has nothing to do with Repulican vs Democrat or even right wing vs left wing.

[tombogan03884]

Check this out .

[philw]

also comes from ignorance, 

and most people that say they Hate guns,   only here and see bad things about them  from the media and movies or what they are told from there mates about them

they have not handled one before 


today and tomorrow we have Schutzenfest  (  'Shooting Festival' )  run by the German club it is a  popular festival with the attendance being around 20,000, there is German food, beverages ( most say it is about the festing and less about schutzen ) , dancing and music. A shooting competition also occurs.

I am there both days  for the shooting as I am one of the RO's we put though around 2000 people  that line up for about an hour to have a go,  ( we have 15 positions to shoot from with a comp air rifles )  most have never shot before  and it is a great to see the smiles on people  and to there amassment  it is safe and fun,   

this year is the 50th anniversary.

[cookie62]

also comes from ignorance, 

and most people that say they Hate guns,   only here and see bad things about them  from the media and movies or what they are told from there mates about them

they have not handled one before 


today and tomorrow we have Schutzenfest  (  'Shooting Festival' )  run by the German club it is a  popular festival with the attendance being around 20,000, there is German food, beverages ( most say it is about the festing and less about schutzen ) , dancing and music. A shooting competition also occurs.

I am there both days  for the shooting as I am one of the RO's we put though around 2000 people  that line up for about an hour to have a go,  ( we have 15 positions to shoot from with a comp air rifles )  most have never shot before  and it is a great to see the smiles on people  and to there amassment  it is safe and fun,   

this year is the 50th anniversary.

That's great the more that learn the better! Maybe oneday you will be able to let them shoot more than air guns, that will really put a smile on there face.