Taurus 617 vs Ruger sp101

[capbyrd]

Thanks but I sold the SP this weekend.  Now I'm waiting on my shop to get my SR9c in. 

[billt]

Even the Judge is no more than a modification of the S&W design made in Brazil. If you have to buy a second tier pistol at least get a Charter Arms and help save AMERICAN jobs.

I tried that buying 2 Springfield Armory .45's. Even they are made in Brazil by Imbel. The whole "Made In America" thing is carrying less and less weight anymore.  Bill T.

[Timothy]

No Bill, you're just running out of gun models to buy so you've gone overseas...   

Most of us don't have the resources to buy anything we want.  Made in America means everything to me and Springfield is, and has been, on my "No Buy" list for some time.  Last year I went to buy a nice little Browning BPS and found there were being made in SE Asia.....the quality was terrible.  I left it on the counter.....

[bafsu92]

I tried that buying 2 Springfield Armory .45's. Even they are made in Brazil by Imbel. The whole "Made In America" thing is carrying less and less weight anymore.  Bill T.

I've seen more and more of the Springfields with the Brazzo markings. It's my understanding that those are actually completely made down there and imported in as complete pistols. Even many of the Springfields that are stamped IL still had the frames made in Brazil and sent up for assembly. I'm pretty sure only their super high end stuff like the TRP's are all US and I wouldn't even guarantee that. If I want a Brazzo 1911 I'll just buy a Taurus. If I want an American 1911 I'll buy a STI or Doublestar or maybe even consider a S&W. I prefer to buy American whenever I can and especially in something that's as American as a 1911. I mean a non American 1911 is like a Chevy truck made in Mexico... oh wait that's another discussion. 

[tombogan03884]

Sig 1911's are made in Exeter NH, I've watched them machine frames and slides (Job interview a few years back ).

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[Big Frank]

Don't forget about Para USA.

[Timothy]

Don't forget about Para USA.

Mines from Ft Lauderdale, FL.....

 

[fightingquaker13]

One of three good things to say about kel-tec.
How did we get stuck with the high end and low end, and the vast majority of middle of the road guns are imported?
Substitute guns and add the product of your choice.
How long is this going to be sustainable?
FQ13

[billt]

How did we get stuck with the high end and low end, and the vast majority of middle of the road guns are imported?FQ13

We didn't. Ruger, Marlin, S&W, Remington, Mossberg, and a host of others I'm forgetting are all made here, and are "middle of the road". High end, as well as junk can come from overseas, as well as here. As I said, it isn't where it's made, but the process involved in making it. Quality costs money everywhere, except for the mining of Sierra Leone blood diamonds. And even that doesn't happen without a gun to someones head.    Bill T.

[fightingquaker13]

We didn't. Ruger, Marlin, S&W, Remington, Mossberg, and a host of others I'm forgetting are all made here, and are "middle of the road". High end, as well as junk can come from overseas, as well as here. As I said, it isn't where it's made, but the process involved in making it. Quality costs money everywhere, except for the mining of Sierra Leone blood diamonds. And even that doesn't happen without a gun to someones head.    Bill T.

Are you sure about that? Becauseif I'm wrong, Ill be the first to say thanks. But my understanding was that Remington, Browning, Winchester etc. were using overseas parts. Ruger still seems "made in USA", but Mossberg/Maverick comes from Mexico in a lot of parts. Please correct me if I'm wrong.
FQ13