1911A2 Combat NCO-The world’s only 400-yard open sight accurate production pisto

[Hazcat]

According to the 2010 Federal ballistics calculator a 230 FMJ Match round is as follows

Zero 50 yards

Trajectory    25yd is +1.1, 100 yd -11.8, 200 -77.2, 300 -205.2, 400 -405

FPS                     844          799               745           697           654

ME                       364         326               284           249            218

[kmitch200]

From the Lippard BS site:

Future Military Models and Weapons
A3 Pistol Model
All pistol parts identified with "A3" nomenclature are derived from this advanced model of a 1911. Parts are upgradeable to the 1911 A2 model pistols today.
This model pistol is not available at this time and considered KLD Classified. The key feature of this new pistol is advanced technology functionality with ammunition exceeding 4,000 feet per second.

So you see, "KLD Classified" must mean something like double secret probation, or a number 2 amber alert.
All you have to do is change the pistol and change the ammo and then change......AAWWW SCREW IT!!!
JUST PICK UP A DAMN RIFLE!!

This guy certainly is ambitious - his A5 model is "Slated for military use in 2100"
Dude, if your company is still slinging bullshit around in 89 years it will be a freaking MIRACLE!

[tombogan03884]

From the Lippard BS site:

Future Military Models and Weapons
A3 Pistol Model
All pistol parts identified with "A3" nomenclature are derived from this advanced model of a 1911. Parts are upgradeable to the 1911 A2 model pistols today.
This model pistol is not available at this time and considered KLD Classified. The key feature of this new pistol is advanced technology functionality with ammunition exceeding 4,000 feet per second.

So you see, "KLD Classified" must mean something like double secret probation, or a number 2 amber alert.
All you have to do is change the pistol and change the ammo and then change......AAWWW SCREW IT!!!
JUST PICK UP A DAMN RIFLE!!

This guy certainly is ambitious - his A5 model is "Slated for military use in 2100"
Dude, if your company is still slinging bullshit around in 89 years weeks   it will be a freaking MIRACLE!

FIFY   

[Herknav]

Two questions:

1)  Didn't Elmer Keith routinely do 400+ yards (exact distance unknown) with a sixgun?
2)  Why isn't this pistol effective within 2 feet?

[tombogan03884]

Two questions:

1)  Didn't Elmer Keith routinely do 400+ yards (exact distance unknown) with a sixgun?
2)  Why isn't this pistol effective within 2 feet?

To answer :
1) Not sure it was "routinely", and it definitely was not a .45ACP, EK was using loads that were somewhat toned down to become the 44Mag.

2) I don't even want to take a guess on this . Some of the statements in the ad are just to stupid to comment on.

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[TAB]

actually tom at contact distance many autos won't even function.

You can try this by taking a unloaded gun and pushing it into something like a stiff pillow. The gun can go slightly out of battery from teh presure on the pillow.  the same thing can happen with a body.

There have been a few cases over the years with LEOs having thier guns not go bang do to this .

[ratcatcher55]

actually tom at contact distance many autos won't even function.

You can try this by taking a unloaded gun and pushing it into something like a stiff pillow. The gun can go slightly out of battery from teh presure on the pillow.  the same thing can happen with a body.

There have been a few cases over the years with LEOs having thier guns not go bang do to this .

+1  It a chamber check using some one elses body.

We shoot at plates to 300 yards for shit's and giggles. I never hit anything past 200 yards and I have to walk them in like a mortar taking a couple of rounds. Some folks are getting hits at 300.  Teaches trigger control and sight picture  but not else.

It's tough to get hits at 400 yards with an M-4 and open sights if you don't practice.

[tombogan03884]

actually tom at contact distance many autos won't even function.

You can try this by taking a unloaded gun and pushing it into something like a stiff pillow. The gun can go slightly out of battery from teh presure on the pillow.  the same thing can happen with a body.

There have been a few cases over the years with LEOs having thier guns not go bang do to this .

True enough, but there is 24 inches difference between what your talking about and what those pinheads are saying.

[twyacht]

Assuming a 230 gr bullet with 0.200 drag coefficient (e.g. a Sierra 45 Tournament Master) and an MV of 1000 fps then the GNU Ballistics Computer gives for 800 yards a drop of 1421 inches (118 ft), velocity 580 fps, flight time 3.26 secs. If the MV were 1200 fps the calculated drop would go down to 98 feet. That would be a power factor of 276, a really hot 45 ACP.

Aiming 118 ft (or 98 feet) over the target with ordinary iron sights would be interesting.

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It gets even better, until I see the vid,.. 800yds?...I call BS....

http://thetruthaboutguns.com/2011/06/robert-farago/karl-lippard-nco-800-yard-grouping-confirmed-ish/#more-50039

[Solus]

If you had a rear sight tall enough, you could zero your pistol for 400ydr.....but then it would shoot a bit  high at 25 yds.  

At 2 ft you probably would get a hit....unless you were using those sights and trying for a head shot.