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Re: You Tube Star "FPS Russia" Home & Office Raided.
« Reply #20 on: April 03, 2013, 11:12:18 AM »
I'm going to say this one last time: we cannot trust any leo at any level, local, state and federal. If any of you are offended, so be it.
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Re: You Tube Star "FPS Russia" Home & Office Raided.
« Reply #21 on: April 03, 2013, 12:46:40 PM »
I'm going to say this one last time: we cannot trust any leo at any level, local, state and federal. If any of you are offended, so be it.

Many are good and trustworthy.  But you can't tell which is which by looking at them.  And even if you personally know one, you don't know how long they will stay that way under the pressure they will receive to follow orders.

I always remember a story I read out of Indianapolis, I believe it was, about a woman who asked a police officer into her living room to answer questions he had about an investigation of one of her neighbors.

During the conversation, the woman notices it is time to take her prescription meds., opens her pill box and take the medication. 

The police officer asked her to show him her prescription for the medication which she did not have, so he arrests her.

Law states that a prescription drug must be kept in it's original container or the original prescription must be carried with it.

A judge dismissed the charges, but I bet she spent time downtown and perhaps on a lawyer. 

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Re: You Tube Star "FPS Russia" Home & Office Raided.
« Reply #22 on: April 03, 2013, 01:18:48 PM »
Many are good and trustworthy.  But you can't tell which is which by looking at them.  And even if you personally know one, you don't know how long they will stay that way under the pressure they will receive to follow orders.

I always remember a story I read out of Indianapolis, I believe it was, about a woman who asked a police officer into her living room to answer questions he had about an investigation of one of her neighbors.

During the conversation, the woman notices it is time to take her prescription meds., opens her pill box and take the medication. 

The police officer asked her to show him her prescription for the medication which she did not have, so he arrests her.

Law states that a prescription drug must be kept in it's original container or the original prescription must be carried with it.

A judge dismissed the charges, but I bet she spent time downtown and perhaps on a lawyer. 



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Re: You Tube Star "FPS Russia" Home & Office Raided.
« Reply #23 on: April 03, 2013, 01:25:13 PM »
weaver sold sawed off shot guns to several people including a atf agent.  Thats what prompted the raid.  Things went down hill on both sides after that.

Never convicted of selling sawed off shotguns.

Again TAB, I ask you what law Vicki Weaver broke?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Randy_Weaver
Weaver was charged with multiple crimes relating to the Ruby Ridge incident, a total of ten counts including the original firearms charges and murder. Attorney Gerry Spence handled Weaver's defense, and argued successfully that Weaver's actions were justifiable as self-defense. The judge dismissed two counts after hearing prosecution witness testimony. The jury acquitted Weaver of all remaining charges except two, one of which the judge set aside. Weaver was found guilty of one count, failure to appear, for which Weaver was fined $10,000 and sentenced to 18 months in prison. He was credited with time served plus an additional three months, and was then released. Kevin Harris was acquitted of all criminal charges.[17]

In August 1995, the US government avoided trial on a civil lawsuit filed by the Weavers, by awarding the three surviving daughters $1,000,000 each, and Randy Weaver $100,000 over the deaths of Sammy and Vicki Weaver. The attorney for Kevin Harris pressed Harris' civil suit for damages, although federal officials vowed they would never pay someone who had killed a U.S. Marshal (Harris had been acquitted by a jury trial on grounds of self-defense). In September 2000 after persistent appeals, Harris was awarded a $380,000 settlement from the government
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Re: You Tube Star "FPS Russia" Home & Office Raided.
« Reply #24 on: April 03, 2013, 05:28:08 PM »
Even if he had sawed off a shotgun, it was a TAX offense.  The SBS stamp is a $200 TAX, same with Waco.  It was all about the money if you believe the ATF  ::)
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Re: You Tube Star "FPS Russia" Home & Office Raided.
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Re: You Tube Star "FPS Russia" Home & Office Raided.
« Reply #25 on: April 03, 2013, 06:38:16 PM »
I beleave the members of waco fired 1st.
I always break all the clay pigeons,  some times its even with lead.

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Re: You Tube Star "FPS Russia" Home & Office Raided.
« Reply #26 on: April 03, 2013, 06:58:28 PM »
I beleave the members of waco fired 1st.

Again you are wrong.
The first gun shot at Waco was when an ATF agent storming out of one of the cattle cars tripped and had an AD.
When Koresh came to the door unarmed, to ask what they wanted, he was shot in the stomach by a trigger happy Govt thug.
It is also worth noting that every one of the ATF casualties recovered was proven to have been shot by other ATF agents.
Funny, the forensic evidence that got Harris acquitted in the Ruby Ridge case so that that Marshal had also been shot in the back by his partner.
Maybe every one BUT cops should be allowed to have guns.
I'm curious to know what you think the Branch Davidian's did to deserve being murdered by ATF and other federal agents.

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Re: You Tube Star "FPS Russia" Home & Office Raided.
« Reply #27 on: April 03, 2013, 07:28:06 PM »
There was recently a good show on Waco where they talked to the FBI negotiators. They said most every time they were making progress with Koresh, the ATF Tactical guys would rachet up the tension. One guy outright said if the ATF would have taken their helo's and tanks and all gone home, they would have been able to talk Koresh out, no sweat. Typical government agencies. No one cooperates with anyone.

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Re: You Tube Star "FPS Russia" Home & Office Raided.
« Reply #28 on: April 03, 2013, 10:59:49 PM »
Remember at Waco that Reno gave the go ahead.
It was for the children.
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Re: You Tube Star "FPS Russia" Home & Office Raided.
« Reply #29 on: April 04, 2013, 03:12:54 AM »
It was for the children.

You mean the dead ones, right?
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