Eric Holder Is Resigning

[fatbaldguy]

Un-'civil' war anyone?

edit to reflect that I'm opining upon the presumption that 'Martial Law' might could be declared.

Also, what part of the military might choose to disobey those orders.

[tombogan03884]

FBG, If it hasn't happened yet I don't think it ever will.
As long as the sheep have their "Dancing with the Stars" they will talk trash and do nothing.

[Solus]

FBG, If it hasn't happened yet I don't think it ever will.
As long as the sheep have their "Dancing with the Stars" they will talk trash and do nothing.

This is true....and it is a intriguing aspect of the "plan". 

If the citizens do nothing in response to outrageous violations of power by the government, the way is open for even greater power grabs.

If, eventually, The People, rise up, and it becomes less and less likely with each submission, then the greater will be the turmoil that ensues.

Capitulation or Civil War are the choices.

Only one of them has an outcome other than servitude and slavery.

[Ulmus]

Been lurking for a bit and had a thought on this. 

Personally I don't see anything anywhere near bad enough to cause a revolution.  (No, I don't watch Dancing with the Stars.  Is it still on?  If so, why?) Why do I think this?  Well, there was a mini-series of episodes on how Hitler got into power.  It showed how the driving force was the economy, all the other stuff was contributing factors.

There were also some points on how the horrible movement mirrored the start of our own revolution.  Bad economy, hardship on the people, ranting in bars, alcohol, anger, leaflets, books, speeches, fights, organization, speeches, ideology, us vs them, army building, revolution.

This way will never happen again in any modern society.  Why?  Nobody goes to the bar to talk politics anymore.  You might hear grumbling for a person or two, maybe get a whole group bitch about them getting laid off, but if someone got really laid, they'd be shut down and thrown out by the other patrons who don't want to hear it.  Bars are for fun, sports, or diving.  I've never seen a highbrow, deep thought, political bar in my life and don't expect to.

Coffee shops were big in the 90's among the college crowd, but the ones that frequented those leaned left and would have enjoyed the Obama era.

Think the internet is the new political bar?  Maybe, but not as much as you think.  Yeah, we had Occupy Wall Street, but it was more of a happening than a movement.  Yes some people got hurt and some property was damaged, but percentage wise, it was just a summer sit it.  When they got bored and it got cold, they moved on.

The economy doesn't lead towards revolution either.  People aren't dancing in the streets and spending money like drunken sailors, but people are feeling more at ease about the economy and they are getting raises again.  Gas is lower than $4.00 a gallon, bright colors are in, and corporations are showing their products in parties again instead of stoic sceneries of endurance and resolve.  The over all mood is lighter than it was and it's ok to party again. (Cautiously.  Not wildly and without abandon.)  People aren't gonna risk this.

We still have international war and terrorism to give a level of united for the better good.  The events in Ukraine brings back the days of the cold war and ISIL/ISIS/IS-whatever is insane extremism run amuck.  When was the last time a country had a revolution when threatened by an outside force?  (Ukraine does not count.  Their so called civil war is caused by Russian soldiers that infiltrated the country and attacked from within.  This is an invasion, not a revolution.)

Those that do complain about how things are don't get much of a following.  They might get a few people to agree with them or debate against them, but it doesn't get larger than a card game.  Outsiders will watch and munch on popcorn while this goes on, but will quickly move on.  There are more enjoyable "sports" to pay attention to.

Oddly enough the biggest reason why nothing will happen is the fact that the people that actually get something done through civil disobedience, or protest are dismissed or even heckled by others who think even bigger movement should happen while not realizing the power of change that happened at that grass roots level.  If all the tiny, grass roots, microscopic changes happen, then there is the same change result as a revolution without generations of anger, resentment, and backlash.

To put it simply:  There will be no civil war or revolution.
The general populace feels a bit better today than yesterday.
The pay is a little bit better.  Gas is a little cheaper. Work is a little easier to find.  People can have a little more fun.  Life is perceived better.
There are enemies, but they're worlds away and we don't have boots on the ground... yet.  (I know that's wrong and we do, but I'm talking about the general public here.)
Those that see otherwise are divided and against each other instead of standing united and proving their points.

Things are perceived to be moving to happier times and people are not going to risk that.

The best way to prove my point will be in November.  Watch the urban areas.  I'll predict that in these areas the percentage of votes for any Tea Party candidate will be less than it was four years ago.

Dancing with the stars not needed.

[Ulmus]

I had a horrible thought about the timing of Holder leaving before going to bed.  I think it was planned to go this way to help them out during the election.

The dems are "pushing" for a quick vote on a new AG, but I think they would be happy either way. If the vote does go fast, they get who they want and all the cover that goes with that person.  If they don't and it's held up, the democrats get to paint republicans as "obstructionists" and how they are the ones bogging down government.

They are not worried about pissing of the base republicans or the tea partiers, they'll never vote dem anyway; no.  they are trying to mobilize the "dancing with the stars" crowd.  You get them angry enough to actually get up and go to the polls and the expected shift towards a Republican majority doesn't look so expected.

The game's afoot.

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[MikeBjerum]

[Here's my contribution to the conspiracy industry.]


Okay, the theory that Obama might nominate him for justice on the SCOTUS is scary.

HOWEVER, I think there are far more devious plots afoot.

Yes, if there's a Supreme Court opening in the next 2 years, I can see Obama nominating Holder, BUT, he's not being nominated with the idea that he would be confirmed.  No, he would be nominated knowing he  won't be confirmed and thereby creating an even greater divide in the congress and country. 

Perhaps even, with a little community organizing there might be widespread riots and even the talk of marshal law.   If things get bad enough the current POTUS just might have to stay on in the White House indefinitely.  I mean if the country is in such turmoil they couldn't possible hold FAIR elections.

Will you please quit stating the obvious

When I was young I heard the phrase "Divide and Conquer."  This administration has perfected the game 

[alfsauve]

Will you please quit stating the obvious

Captain Obvious

 

[tombogan03884]

Fair elections ? Ha Ha Ha !

http://clashdaily.com/2014/09/busted-video-catches-liberal-tx-group-covering-illegal-voter-registration/

Vote early and often. And who cares if Julio is illegalio? Behold, the lawless Liberals in action.

    HOUSTON, Texas — Battleground Texas (BGTX) may have failed to take any action regarding the “admission” of an undercover volunteer with BGTX that she had broken multiple election laws, according to a new video investigation by journalist James O’Keefe’s organization Project Veritas. The allegations come on the heels of sting earlier this year that busted BGTX, a group attempting to turn Texas blue, for illegally copying voters’ personal data for campaign purposes.

    Project Veritas claims that BGTX personnel did not take action after being told by a volunteer that voters were registered by an individual who did not have the authority to do so, and that completed voter forms were lost.

    Under Texas law, voter registration can only be performed deputized voter registrars. Volunteer deputy registrars must deliver completed forms to the registrar, and they must receive proper training.

    These rules are “very important. It’s a crime to handle a completed registration form without being officially certified as a [volunteer deputy registrar],” Mimi Marziani, the Voter Protection Director for BGTX says in a video on the organization’s website.

    Read more: Breitbart

[Solus]

Doing what it takes to get elected and in power......

I'd not mind seeing election fraud at any level  be termed Treason and a capital offense.

If the ballot box is rigged that only leaves the ammo box, and anyone who causes that should be guilty of Treason.

[tombogan03884]

"that only leaves the ammo box," 

Been telling you that for years.