Wranglers (relaxed fit--yeah, Crusader needs the room) Carhardts Canvass and maybe Dickies work out well for me. Haven't bought Levis since the '80s when the price hit double what they charged for the "off" brands. That and the whole made out of the country thing really p!ssed me off. These days, I wouldn't buy Levis if they made them in Florida and sold 'em for $5 a pair. Freakin' commies are right in line with the MoveOn.org crowd and those b@st@rds could all fall in a hole and I'd sell shovels to fill it up.