Freedom under fire (CNN)

[MikeBjerum]

Is this a practice run to try and keep their jobs with the possible new bosses picked in November?

If so ... vote early vote often.

[tombogan03884]

Ruby Ridge was mostly FBI. Waco was ATF, you know when they went in with stock trailers full of body armored auto weapon equipped troops to serve a knock and serve warrant. That's why they brought the assault ladders and tried to break in through upper story windows.

Oh yeah, the warrant? It was for drugs, which last time I checked is not within the ATF's jurisdiction.

edit: Oh yeah, the agent in charge just kinda disappeared, no idea where she ended up. She was the one joking as she opened up packages of VHS video tapes to record their "successful" assault - er, warrant serving. And just how successful was it? Well the ATF had its ass handed to it, ran out of ammo (killing caged dogs in part) and had to negotiate a safe departure as most of its people were pinned down. Left with their tail between their legs.

Maybe their ego was tweaked, and this may be the reason they are such assholes to the rest of us.

The best part was that all but one of the ATF agents shot were hit with ATF proprietary ammo. Same thing at Ruby ridge, The US Marshal who was killed was shot in the back by his partner.

[2HOW]

This is so bad I dont have words. And how many years did he serve? Sometimes Im glad im gettin old , cause I could have clarity in a situation like this .

[Dakotaranger]

So, what happens if my sear breaks when I'm at the range or hunting coyotes and a game warden is around?  Where was the ATF when a car went off a bridge driven by an alcoholic Senator?  Shoudn't his car collection be consfisicated under the same reasoning?

[Teresa Heilevang]

So, what happens if my sear breaks when I'm at the range or hunting coyotes and a game warden is around?  Where was the ATF when a car went off a bridge driven by an alcoholic Senator?  Shoudn't his car collection be consfisicated under the same reasoning?

oh yeah... it should be... and if it was you or me.. it would have been... but since it is a man of the cloth (government)  unfortunately... we all know the answer to that!~~~

[Sponsor]

[tombogan03884]

oh yeah... it should be... and if it was you or me.. it would have been... but since it is a man of the cloth (government)  unfortunately... we all know the answer to that!~~~

Senatorial Privalege, The laws don't apply if your "special", same reason that disbarred lawyer (The one who's wife is running for president) does not have to register like the rest of the countries sex offenders.

[Teresa Heilevang]

One day a florist goes to a barber for a haircut.  After the cut he asked about his bill and the barber replies, 'I cannot accept money from you. I'm doing community service this week.'  The florist was pleased and left the shop.

When the barber goes to open his shop the next morning there is a 'thank you' card and a dozen roses waiting for him at his door.

 Later, a cop comes in for a haircut, and when he tries to pay his bill, the barber again replies, 'I cannot accept money from you.  I'm doing community service this week.'  The cop is happy and leaves the shop.

 The next morning when the barber goes to open up there is a 'thank you' card and a dozen donuts waiting for him at his door.

 Later that day, a college professor comes in for a haircut, and when he tries to pay his bill, the barber again replies, 'I cannot accept money from you.  I'm doing community service this week.' The professor is very happy and leaves the shop.

 The next morning when the barber opens his shop, there is a 'thank you' card and a dozen different books, such as 'How to Improve Your Business' and 'Becoming More Successful.

 Then, a Congressman comes in for a haircut, and when he goes to pay his bill the barber again replies, 'I cannot accept money from you.  I'm doing community service this week.'  The Congressman is very happy and leaves the shop.

 The next morning when the barber goes to open up, there are a dozen Congressmen lined up waiting for a free haircut.

 And that, my friends, illustrates the fundamental difference between the citizens of our country and the members of our Congress.—

Vote carefully this year.

[2HOW]

I would like to identify my self on forums so if this kind of crap happened to me I would have a record of my posts , but more so my fellow members would know what happened, and be able to make a more informed opinion of what transpired. Unfortunately this cannot be so. I would like to think somehow we would know when our brothers and sisters are in trouble. Sucks big time, .

[tombogan03884]

He was posting on highroad.com

[Marshal Halloway]

Here is part 2 of Lou Dobbs coverage:

The right to bear arms 4:24
Some say a Wisconsin gun owner's conviction threatens their right to bear arms. CNN's Bill Tucker reports.

http://www.cnn.com/video/#/video/politics/2008/03/14/tucker.government.guns.part.2.cnn