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Re: Connecticut school shooting
« Reply #50 on: December 16, 2012, 01:04:04 AM »
Oregon is another that allows public school teachers to carry in class, or any other CCW permit holder.  This was played out in public by a teach, down in Medford IIRC, that got a CCW for what she thought was a real threat to her safety.
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Re: Connecticut school shooting
« Reply #51 on: December 16, 2012, 01:43:58 AM »
Here's something to ponder:  Does HIPPA prevent mental defects from showing up during a NICS?  If so, get rid of HIPPA, at least for things like NICS and you're not going to have cockholes like Laughner and the dickhead in CO being able to access firearms in the first place.
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Re: Connecticut school shooting
« Reply #52 on: December 16, 2012, 02:49:02 AM »
Part of the prob is figuring out who is a threat and who is just nuts.    thats something that is very hard to determine.   you can be nuts and be perfectly safe with a gun, or you can be sane and be a danger to everyone.
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Re: Connecticut school shooting
« Reply #53 on: December 16, 2012, 07:08:35 AM »
If people want to be angry about something they should be angry at the people who let this freak out on the street knowing he had mental issues and chose not to do anything about it, instead of fixing the problem all people want to do is change this country into something they think is better, New Jersey and New York and Connecticut already have some of the strictest gun laws we have in this country and that didn't help to prevent this tragedy, most all of these horrific shootings that were committed by these people, these people were mentally unstable and in almost every case family members and friends new and they were diagnosed with some form of mental illness and the authorities were even notify but they all looked the other way,(( that is the problem)),  , and if you look at all these horrific tragedies where they have mass shootings you will find that most all of them were committed in gun free zones where it was against the Law to have a weapon, so these murderers knew they would have no armed citizens against them so all the people are sitting ducks at the murderers Mercy, and anybody who thinks they can take the weapons away from murderers is living in a fantasy world those bad people will always find a way to get them, our own government even gives them out to the cartel in Mexico, we have had rifles and pistols with detachable magazines for as long as I can remember and I am 62 but we never had any problems like this until the last 10 or 15 years the weapons really have not changed that much, (but the people have) in this past 15 years or so, so much has changed in this country in a negative way from simple things like the food we eat is mostly chemicals today the doctors are handing out prescription drugs to our children like candy we no longer have enough jobs in this country for the people who live here creating a tremendous amount of stress on families the healthcare is a joke controlled by insurance companies who do not want to pay out for people who are mentally unstable forcing them to be out on the street to do these horrible crimes, today's children have been raised with incredible violence on TV and in the movies and videogames, our government knows this is happening but they do not do anything because they have no money they have spent it all on projects we don't need given it to other countries ,and our government knows any time a horrific tragedy like this happens they are one step closer to getting their way, there are so many ways to protect children in school but it seems nobody figured it out yet one simple door that separatesthe front lobby and office from the rest of the school that can be activated by a simple switch just like a sliding gate door you have in a prison, in most schools once you get inside the front entrance you have access to the entire school there should be a separation door between the children and the front office that is always closed and locked and can be locked remotely with a secondary lock and cannot be penetrated without a special key carried by law enforcement or  fire department

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Re: Connecticut school shooting
« Reply #54 on: December 16, 2012, 08:22:42 AM »
sweet, we can't hide from the problem. We can't blame the problem on everything in society, because you left out air and water pollution, ad nauseum. The problem is nut jobs, how do we classify them as dangerous and what can we do about them. The CT shooter didn't even own the guns he used according to reports I have heard; his mother did. Remember how the government reacted to plane hijackings. They locked the cockpit doors, etc. Your solution sounds the same. Is this how we want to live our lives in this country from now on? Lock up everything? It doesn't stop at the schools. Next are the public libraries, then all bathrooms and then, God forbid, restaurants and bars! Anyplace people congregate. Know the secret word and you get in. I personally don't want to live like the Israelis. Do any of us want that? Live with honor, yes. Live in constant fear, no.
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Re: Connecticut school shooting
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Re: Connecticut school shooting
« Reply #55 on: December 16, 2012, 08:33:11 AM »
Sweets placing the blame on outside factors doesn't work any better than any other liberal "product of his environment" BS. Neither does the "lack of morality" excuse.
Millions are subject to exactly the same influences with out ever harming any one .
Until every one accepts that the root of the problem is deranged individuals nothing constructive will be done about it.
It really should not take a high school drop out to point this out.

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Re: Connecticut school shooting
« Reply #56 on: December 16, 2012, 08:54:46 AM »
Apparently the mourning period is over for the media...nothing but talk about more gun control on the Sunday morning news programs!

Even Fox, fair and balanced as they say they are, is leaning toward "the instrument" rather than the "individual"! 

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Re: Connecticut school shooting
« Reply #57 on: December 16, 2012, 09:02:06 AM »
If people want to be angry about something they should be angry at the people who let this freak out on the street knowing he had mental issues and chose not to do anything about it, instead of fixing the problem all people want to do is change this country into something they think is better, New Jersey and New York and Connecticut already have some of the strictest gun laws we have in this country and that didn't help to prevent this tragedy, most all of these horrific shootings that were committed by these people, these people were mentally unstable and in almost every case family members and friends new and they were diagnosed with some form of mental illness and the authorities were even notify but they all looked the other way,(( that is the problem)),  , and if you look at all these horrific tragedies where they have mass shootings you will find that most all of them were committed in gun free zones where it was against the Law to have a weapon, so these murderers knew they would have no armed citizens against them so all the people are sitting ducks at the murderers Mercy, and anybody who thinks they can take the weapons away from murderers is living in a fantasy world those bad people will always find a way to get them, our own government even gives them out to the cartel in Mexico, we have had rifles and pistols with detachable magazines for as long as I can remember and I am 62 but we never had any problems like this until the last 10 or 15 years the weapons really have not changed that much, (but the people have) in this past 15 years or so, so much has changed in this country in a negative way from simple things like the food we eat is mostly chemicals today the doctors are handing out prescription drugs to our children like candy we no longer have enough jobs in this country for the people who live here creating a tremendous amount of stress on families the healthcare is a joke controlled by insurance companies who do not want to pay out for people who are mentally unstable forcing them to be out on the street to do these horrible crimes, today's children have been raised with incredible violence on TV and in the movies and videogames, our government knows this is happening but they do not do anything because they have no money they have spent it all on projects we don't need given it to other countries ,and our government knows any time a horrific tragedy like this happens they are one step closer to getting their way, there are so many ways to protect children in school but it seems nobody figured it out yet one simple door that separatesthe front lobby and office from the rest of the school that can be activated by a simple switch just like a sliding gate door you have in a prison, in most schools once you get inside the front entrance you have access to the entire school there should be a separation door between the children and the front office that is always closed and locked and can be locked remotely with a secondary lock and cannot be penetrated without a special key carried by law enforcement or  fire department
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Re: Connecticut school shooting
« Reply #58 on: December 16, 2012, 09:46:03 AM »
Blood Thirsty Media Carnage!!!

How many of the next of kin do you think gave full consent to the media to name their dead and post their pictures?

Last night school photos of the dead along with their names began showing up in newspapers and on news reports.

These were innocent victims, and they and their families are entitled to the protection of privacy at this time.
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Re: Connecticut school shooting
« Reply #59 on: December 16, 2012, 09:56:13 AM »
Snuffleupagus had four liberals against two conservatives on his program.  Again, all about the guns and how to restrict their availability to those who do harm with them.

M58...privacy no longer exists in this country!  Sadly, these children will be used to further an agenda and will have been forgotten by all but a very select few over the next few years.

 

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