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Re: Wiley Clapp GP100
« Reply #60 on: August 13, 2011, 01:03:09 PM »
Doesn't the .357 have a higher percentage of one shot stops than any other caliber?
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Re: Wiley Clapp GP100
« Reply #61 on: August 13, 2011, 01:12:22 PM »
Quote from: jumbofrank on August 13, 2011, 01:03:09 PM
Doesn't the .357 have a higher percentage of one shot stops than any other caliber?

Yes!  That discussion is around the archives somewhere.
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Re: Wiley Clapp GP100
« Reply #62 on: August 13, 2011, 01:33:00 PM »
Quote from: jumbofrank on August 13, 2011, 01:03:09 PM
Doesn't the .357 have a higher percentage of one shot stops than any other caliber?

That's from Handgun Stopping Power by Evan Marshall & Ed Sanow.
Using fuzzy math and even fuzzier methodology they assigned a percentage to "one shot stops." The stats guys have stated for years that M&S used stats and conclusions that didn't make any sense.
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Re: Wiley Clapp GP100
« Reply #63 on: August 13, 2011, 01:38:35 PM »
Mitch, somewhere in the past someone posted an article written by a Metro Coroner that pretty much confirmed the data.  I never researched the validity but knowing the ballistics of the round it made sense.  It is true that bullet technology is advancing pretty quickly so in the future, the data may get diluted with other calibers.

Either way, I carried a .357 snubby in a pants pocket for over a year everywhere I went with no trouble at all.  If I was a scrawny little fella that might make a difference.
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Re: Wiley Clapp GP100
« Reply #64 on: August 13, 2011, 01:47:05 PM »
.357, .44, .41, .45, .40, .22LR: All I know is I don't want to be on the business end of these little buggers no matter what.....They're all going to hurt!....
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Re: Wiley Clapp GP100
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Re: Wiley Clapp GP100
« Reply #65 on: August 13, 2011, 02:35:14 PM »
Quote from: FullAuto on August 13, 2011, 01:47:05 PM
.357, .44, .41, .45, .40, .22LR: All I know is I don't want to be on the business end of these little buggers no matter what.....They're all going to hurt!....

True...but if I was calling the shots, everyone I faced in a gunfight would be packing a Bobcat in .22 LR.
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Re: Wiley Clapp GP100
« Reply #66 on: August 13, 2011, 02:57:19 PM »
Quote from: Timothy on August 13, 2011, 01:38:35 PM
Mitch, somewhere in the past someone posted an article written by a Metro Coroner that pretty much confirmed the data.  I never researched the validity but knowing the ballistics of the round it made sense.  It is true that bullet technology is advancing pretty quickly so in the future, the data may get diluted with other calibers.

It might depend on which years data. 1992, 1996 or 2000. I don't know the ins and outs of the different years but the '92 study has been thrashed - rightly so or not. I'm not into statistics so I can't look at their tables and say "Oh that's not right."

We all know placement is King above all other considerations. (well, right behind "Have a gun!)
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Re: Wiley Clapp GP100
« Reply #67 on: August 13, 2011, 05:46:58 PM »
Quote from: kmitch200 on August 13, 2011, 02:57:19 PM
It might depend on which years data. 1992, 1996 or 2000. I don't know the ins and outs of the different years but the '92 study has been thrashed - rightly so or not. I'm not into statistics so I can't look at their tables and say "Oh that's not right."

We all know placement is King above all other considerations. (well, right behind "Have a gun!)


Agreed!   :o  ;)
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Re: Wiley Clapp GP100
« Reply #68 on: August 13, 2011, 07:26:16 PM »
Quote from: Timothy on August 13, 2011, 01:38:35 PM
Mitch, somewhere in the past someone posted an article written by a Metro Coroner that pretty much confirmed the data.  I never researched the validity but knowing the ballistics of the round it made sense.  It is true that bullet technology is advancing pretty quickly so in the future, the data may get diluted with other calibers.

Either way, I carried a .357 snubby in a pants pocket for over a year everywhere I went with no trouble at all.  If I was a scrawny little fella that might make a difference.

I think this is the link you referenced.
http://www.gunthorp.com/Terminal%20Ballistics%20as%20viewed%20in%20a%20morgue.htm
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Re: Wiley Clapp GP100
« Reply #69 on: August 13, 2011, 08:28:22 PM »
Interesting.

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