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Re: A look at open carry in San Diego
« Reply #20 on: July 17, 2009, 02:03:29 PM »
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This is exactly how other radicals have forced the powers that be to deal with them.  Think about the gays, abortion righters, etc.  MB has mentioned this before.  We NEED to get out there and in peoples faces (politely).
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Re: A look at open carry in San Diego
« Reply #21 on: July 17, 2009, 02:06:33 PM »
E,

This is exactly how other radicals have forced the powers that be to deal with them.  Think about the gays, abortion righters, etc.  MB has mentioned this before.  We NEED to get out there and in peoples faces (politely).

Its not polite..... if you are scaring them to the point that they feel they need to call the police, then it is too brash and over the top....... and it certainly was not an effective encounter.

Shoving it down their throats might work in the short term...... but you have to change minds and win the war of ideas if you are going to win in the long term...... Dont look to the gay pride movement as a template..... If they are being so successful, then why are so many states putting gay pride issues to a vote and officially changing state constitutions? Cramming it down their throats is no way to win the war. 
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Re: A look at open carry in San Diego
« Reply #22 on: July 17, 2009, 02:10:15 PM »
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Lots of people scared of dogs so we keep em on a leash.  These guns are holstered and of no threat.  If a pantywaist is 'scared' too bad!  Many people are scared of anyone have the right to carry concealed, you gonna stop carrying to ease their minds?
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Re: A look at open carry in San Diego
« Reply #23 on: July 17, 2009, 02:12:32 PM »
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Lots of people scared of dogs so we keep em on a leash.  These guns are holstered and of no threat.  If a pantywaist is 'scared' too bad!  Many people are scared of anyone have the right to carry concealed, you gonna stop carrying to ease their minds?

Angering and scaring people is not going to make them vote pro gun at the next election.


*I'm not saying to stop trying to convince people, I am saying to find a more effective way.
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Re: A look at open carry in San Diego
« Reply #24 on: July 17, 2009, 04:15:17 PM »
Angering and scaring people is not going to make them vote pro gun at the next election.


*I'm not saying to stop trying to convince people, I am saying to find a more effective way.


Any suggestions?
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Re: A look at open carry in San Diego
« Reply #25 on: July 17, 2009, 04:40:53 PM »
Angering and scaring people is not going to make them vote pro gun at the next election.


*I'm not saying to stop trying to convince people, I am saying to find a more effective way.

The people practicing open carry are not scaring anyone. They are simply excersizing their Constitutional rights as specified under state law. The fear comes from the lies of the anti's and the observers own prejudice, just like locking your car door because you saw a young black man walking down the side walk.

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Re: A look at open carry in San Diego
« Reply #26 on: July 17, 2009, 04:43:03 PM »
The people practicing open carry are not scaring anyone. They are simply excersizing their Constitutional rights as specified under state law. The fear comes from the lies of the anti's and the observers own prejudice, just like locking your car door because you saw a young black man walking down the side walk.


Doesn't that make us a downtrodden minority?
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Re: A look at open carry in San Diego
« Reply #27 on: July 17, 2009, 04:46:06 PM »

Any suggestions?

education is the best way.

there are 4 basic types of "antis"

1 the ones that have no "hands on exp"( which is most of them)
2 people that have had bad exps with guns
3 people that are afraid of them
4 people that just hate them


2 of the 4 you can change thier minds with education ( 1.3)
1 of the 4 you can atleast bring them back to neutral. (2)
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Re: A look at open carry in San Diego
« Reply #28 on: July 17, 2009, 04:50:28 PM »
education is the best way.

there are 4 basic types of "antis"

1 the ones that have no "hands on exp"( which is most of them)
2 people that have had bad exps with guns
3 people that are afraid of them
4 people that just hate them


2 of the 4 you can change thier minds with education ( 1.3)
1 of the 4 you can atleast bring them back to neutral. (2)



1 of the 4 (4) can be used as targets for the other 3.  ;D




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Re: A look at open carry in San Diego
« Reply #29 on: July 17, 2009, 04:58:09 PM »

Doesn't that make us a downtrodden minority?

Yes, we are being discriminated against under color of the law.
People who exercise their 2A rights are the MOST oppressed segment of society.
 Imagine the uproar if  Blacks could vote only if approved by the FBI.
Or if public writings such as editorials or letters to the editor had to be registered and include the writers address, SSN, and finger prints.
Or how about if walking down the street with a book gave Cops the right to stop you for suspicion of possession of porn.

 

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