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Re: Episode 1: Safe at Home
« Reply #70 on: January 01, 2009, 02:03:15 PM »
We also didn't want to present info out of sequence because one of the problems we identified on some other programming was mixed beginner and advanced information presented sequentially — "There's a knock on your door...now here's how to transition to your battle rifle..." We want to keep everyone moving along the same path throughout the season.


This would be especially appreciated if the series is released on DVD. If giving the set as a gift to someone who isn't fully "up to speed," the sequence would mean a lot.

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Re: Episode 1: Safe at Home
« Reply #71 on: January 01, 2009, 04:00:38 PM »
Rob/Michael:  I have just finished watching the first episode and I want to congratulate you guys on a great job.  I am a CSI with a PD in the greater Atlanta area and I spend a lot of time working burglaries and home invasions.  I have read all of the various comments and I want to make a few myself.

1:  Burglars ring the door bell and when they don't get an answer because in most instances the victims, who are usually women, say to themselves, "I'm not expecting anybody or I don't want to be bothered so I won't answer the door", they proceed to kick the door in!

2.  Doors are kicked in because they are in 98% of the time "pre-hung" doors.  It doesn't matter if it is a solid door, a metal skin door with a hollow interior or even an interior door hung as an exterior door.  The problem is the PRE-HUNG wood.  It is usually made up of pieces of wood finger joined and glued together and it is generally not nailed or screwed to the 2 X 4 studs, they are just floating in the opening.  Replace the striker side of the pre-hung frame with a solid piece of wood (5/4 deck board or a 2X4 if possible) and then screw it into the closest 2X4 stud and it will be a much more difficult for the burglar to kick in your door.

3.  The Master lock door bars that you used on the sliding glass door are 1000 times better than little hinge pins that are easily bent out of shape.   Also, many, many sliding doors are installed backwards.  That is, the slider portion is outside of the fixed door.  No way to put door bar into use.  I know of one housing area of  about 350 homes and every one of the sliding doors was installed backwards. 

4.  You continuity was a little off.  The female victim used a Master door bar lock to strike the burglar and she entered the bedroom/safe room with it in her hand.  The next shot showed her going around the bed and the door bar was not in sight.  It did not appear that she dropped it, it just disappeared.

5.  Also in the safe room.  The female was on the cell phone reading from a piece of paper and then magically a semi-auto pistol appeared in her hand.  Where did it come from?

I am looking forward to the rest of the series.  Dave 

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Re: Episode 1: Safe at Home
« Reply #72 on: January 01, 2009, 04:32:17 PM »
Great 1st episode.
 Another idea for the gun mount would be a 90 degree angle bracket with another piece of plywood or plexiglass attaches to side the assembly.  Mount it by sliding the thin side between the matress/boxspring at the headboard or alongside the nightstand.  That way you could acess it, and it would be easily accessable be out of sight.  (depending if children are in the home)

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Re: Episode 1: Safe at Home
« Reply #73 on: January 01, 2009, 04:39:51 PM »
Thanks to everyone for your feedback. I'm very glad that, in general, you all liked what you saw. Although I truly appreciate all the specific questions and comments, time won't allow me/us to respond to every one. Instead, I'd like to offer a some general responses that I hope will help you put the information--and our ability to convey it in the format available--in context:

1. A 30-minute show allows about 22 minutes of actual content. It's impossible to cover all aspects of any worthwhile topic in that timeframe. If we chose one topic--like hardening a safe room door--we could have done a much more complete job in the time allowed and addressed many of the other points you brought up. AND, most of you would have hated it because the topic was too narrow and we only addressed one thing.
2. The amount of footage we shot and the other topics we covered on camera was probably 3-4 times what you saw in the episode. Just because you didn't see something doesn't mean we didn't say it or feel that it's important to the topic at hand.
3. The house that we had available for the shoot was kindly volunteered to us by a production assistant. We didn't get to see it until we arrived there. As such, we had to do the best we could with the resources available. Things like taking cover behind the bed, staying in line with the door, and having a window to your back were by no means optimal, but in that setting, they made the best sense. Take a look at next week's show where we use a different house with more options and address all that stuff in detail.
4. Every house is going to be different and construction methods vary tremendously from one place to another. Specific comments that would make sense for a brick home in New England don't apply well to a frame house in Hawaii. Remember that we're trying to provide good general information that will hopefully help everyone improve their safety. You need to take that information and adapt it to your specific needs and situation.
5. Nice catch on the continuity break. I mentioned that in the first review of the edit and suggested that the "cut" from the hallway scene to the bedroom scene be made later, to imply that maybe she dumped the door bar behind the dresser. The editors did a magnificent job, but I don't always get my way (just ask my wife) and we all do make mistakes.
6. The magically appearing Glock came from a gun safe under the bed. We shot the footage and talked about its positioning, but, rmember, we only have room for 22 minutes of stuff.
7. As for placement of guns and the methods to keep them safe, I clearly state that it's a gray area and must be appropriate for your home layout and the age, maturity and skill of the folks in your family. Compared to the "gun in the nightstand" approach--which we all know is used by many--securing a firearm where it is well hidden but still quickly accessible still makes good sense to me.

I hope these responses help. We realize the limitations imposed by a half-hour show format. That's why Rob and I decided early in the process to partner up on a book project that addresses the topics we cover in season one with a much greater level of detail. We are already deep into the project and, happily, many of the questions and comments you've offered so far are addressed in chapter 1 of that book. Stay tuned here for more information on that title and its availability.

Wishing you all a Happy and Safe New Year.

Cheers,

Mike

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Re: Episode 1: Safe at Home
« Reply #74 on: January 01, 2009, 08:30:00 PM »
The only information you MUST give to police is that you want your /a lawyer.
Watch the video.

The Law Professor

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i8z7NC5sgik

The Cop

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=08fZQWjDVKE


YOU BETTER WATCH THE DARN VIDEO !  I HUNTED THROUGH OVER 60 PAGES OF FORUM POSTS TO FIND IT !

Michael,or Rob... I think these links should be made a "sticky" Topic They offer some very good advise.
"If violent crime is to be curbed, it is only the intended victim who can do it. The felon does not fear the police, and he fears neither judge nor jury. Therefore what he must be taught to fear is his victim." - Jeff Cooper
Pericles--"Freedom is only for those who have the guts to defend it".

The problem with society today is that not enough of us drink wine from our enemies skulls”.

It takes 43 muscles to frown, 17 to smile, and 3 for proper trigger squeeze.

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Re: Episode 1: Safe at Home
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Re: Episode 1: Safe at Home
« Reply #75 on: January 01, 2009, 08:42:05 PM »
First off what an awesome show!  I have been waiting anxiously for the season to start.

I'm relatively new to personal firearms, concealed carry, personal security and home security.  But like most things in my life I get obsessed (OCD) and really serious about things I become involved in.  My military career (AF) has given me the basics of firearms and security.  But I never seriously applied it to my family and home life.  Now I carry all the time it's legal and have several weapons and firearms throughout my house.

The female victim used a Master door bar lock to strike the burglar and she entered the bedroom/safe room.  I noticed that after striking the burglar it would have been just as easy to run out the front door.  So here's my question:

In a suburban setting wouldn't it be a better option to escape to a neighbors house instead of retreating into the house?  Even without a weapon it seems safer to be running through the neighborhood than retreating into the house with invaders.  I know there are thousands of situations but I can't imagine the home invaders would chase you if you escape.  Unless they know you personally and are after YOU.  But for a random act of violence it seems that escape would be my families first option.  If we can't escape then I will go to my handgun, carbine, etc.

This is just one of the parts of my home security plan I want to nail down.

Thanks in advance for all the expert advice!
Scott

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Re: Episode 1: Safe at Home
« Reply #76 on: January 01, 2009, 08:56:47 PM »
Good job guys, very well done... and great information for all!
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Re: Episode 1: Safe at Home
« Reply #77 on: January 01, 2009, 09:22:47 PM »
Thanks to everyone for your feedback. I'm very glad that, in general, you all liked what you saw.
I hope these responses help. We realize the limitations imposed by a half-hour show format. That's why Rob and I decided early in the process to partner up on a book project that addresses the topics we cover in season one with a much greater level of detail. We are already deep into the project and, happily, many of the questions and comments you've offered so far are addressed in chapter 1 of that book. Stay tuned here for more information on that title and its availability.

Wishing you all a Happy and Safe New Year.

Cheers,

Mike

Thanks Mike, Rob and Michael

It is great to be able to see you guys following up on this and actully responding to us. That fells real good to see that what we are seeing and responding to is not falling on death ears of some show (or someone just trying to make a buck) and that you guys really care about what you are producing and showing to us.

As I said in my other posts thanks for the good show, it is something that is needed out there and as you said you need to tailer to the beginner through expert. I for one liked the show and will be sure to watching it now that I see how much you are all behind it, it's great to see that.

Thanks Again

David

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Re: Episode 1: Safe at Home
« Reply #78 on: January 01, 2009, 10:37:42 PM »
In a suburban setting wouldn't it be a better option to escape to a neighbors house instead of retreating into the house?  Even without a weapon it seems safer to be running through the neighborhood than retreating into the house with invaders.  I know there are thousands of situations but I can't imagine the home invaders would chase you if you escape.  Unless they know you personally and are after YOU.  But for a random act of violence it seems that escape would be my families first option.  If we can't escape then I will go to my handgun, carbine, etc.

Dear Scott:

Great question. If you consider the full scenario the way it was shown in the context of everything that was shot, that would have been addressed. When I choreographed the scenarios for the first episode, they went in this order:

1. Attacker at front door, escape safely out the back. Learning point = Nothing in your house is worth dying for. The best way of being safe may be to go out another exit, as long as you have a plan once you're out.
2. Attacker at front door, escape out back door, only to be surprised by a second attacker. Learning point = Look before you open the door.
3. Attacker at front door, retreat to safe room. Learning point = If you cannot exit or due to age of physical limitation can't flee quickly, hunker down.
4. Combined scenario--what you saw at the end of the show.

This is what I wanted everyone to see. Based on my background in video production (I founded Paladin Press' video department and ran it for 10 years), I was used to the "run to length" approach. In simple terms, you shoot and include as much video as necessary to present all the information. Broadcast television is very different and there's no way to cover all that in 22 minutes. I'm learning as I go.

The ultimate goal is to provide as much good information to you guys as possible. With that in mind, here's the written outline I did for episode 1. It shows the full scope of what I consider to be the basics of home defense. It will also form the foundation of what I share in the book Rob and I are working on.

The Best Defense against a home invasion is making your home a hard target

a.   Your first priority should be to invest in the external security of your home
•   External lighting and motion-activated lights
•   High-quality, solid doors, deadbolt locks, reinforced strike plates
•   Eliminate or reinforce weak points (i.e. windows in or near front door)
•   Get a dog or create the impression of the presence of one
•   Get an alarm system or create the impression of the presence of one
•   Get to know your neighbors and work with them to support each other’s home defense plans

b.   Make security rules and stick to them
•   ALWAYS lock your doors
•   Don’t open the door for strangers
•   Don’t discuss or share exact details of your home defense plan with anyone outside your family

If someone does manage to gain entry to your home, you need to have plans of action.

a. These should include plans to:
•   Escape out another exit
•   Repel him at the door
•   Withdraw to a predetermined location and fight
•   Retreat to a safe room and barricade

b. These plans should be integrated into a dynamic and flexible flow of tactics

Staging Weapons

a.   Evaluate your family’s level of comfort and responsibility with purpose-designed weapons and make your plans accordingly

b.   Home-defense weapon attributes
•   Instantly accessible
•   Capable of causing serious damage to an attacker
•   Provides reach while being appropriate to the environmental constraints of your house
•   Easy to wield with one hand

c.   Types of staged weapons
•   Environmental improvised weapons (i.e. kitchen knives, frying pans, hammers, screwdrivers, brooms/mops/mop handles, etc.)
•   Pre-positioned less-lethal weapons (i.e. sticks/canes in umbrella stands, OC staged in appropriate places (Velcro above doorways), hardwood dowels in window/door tracks, or anything else that denies unauthorized access while providing high-speed accessibility)
•   Openly displayed “decorative” weapons (make sure they arm you, not the bad guy, and that they are appropriate to the physical constraints of that part of the house
•   Hidden firearms (primarily reserved for safe room(s))

Develop and practice reaction plans for different rooms in the house

a.   Assess your physical skills and condition and your willingness to employ extreme violence

b.   Based on your assessment, develop primary, secondary, and tertiary plans of action, for example:
•   Escape out another exit: Check visually first to ensure you’re not running into an ambush. Have a pre-determined safe rally point outside and away from the house—preferably a neighbor’s house.
•   Deny access: If your physical security is good, you should have considerable warning. You may choose to make your stand at the front door and not allow the attacker entry.
•   Arm yourself and retreat to a defensible choke point on the way to either your safe room or another exit. Use the choke point to funnel the invader to you and fight on your terms.
•   Fight a retreating action as necessary to get to your safe room

Quiz and remind yourself often of your “go-to” weapons in different parts of the house
•   Practice grabbing a weapon and maneuvering to a fighting to exits and safe rooms while “collecting” family members and moving them ahead of you.
•   Identify projectile weapons that you can throw to cover your retreat.
•   Have simple verbal commands to get everyone in the house to immediately follow the plan, i.e. “safe” for retreat to safe room, “fire” or "out" for exit.
•   Stash a weapon in the bathroom as well, in the event an invasion occurs when you are using the facilities or as a last-ditch defense if you are taken hostage.

I hope this helps "fill in the blanks" and gives you an idea of our overall throught process in approaching the topic for episode 1.

Stay safe,

Mike

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Re: Episode 1: Safe at Home
« Reply #79 on: January 02, 2009, 12:14:52 AM »
Mike,
Wow...thank you so much for taking the time to respond!  I knew the intent of the episode was to show the retreat to the safe room, etc.  But the video really left an obvious escape out the front door.

Your ideas for improvised weapons really have me thinking.  But luckily I always have my LCP/laser in my pocket even in my pajamas.

Now I just wish our families could move in together and share a structure....but since that isn't going to happen I need to get some training from one of your organizations  :) 

Luckily this great show is providing more training than I could ever get in a normal academic environment.

Keep up the great work and thanks for sharing your expertise!
Scott

 

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