Guns That Have Changed Our Thinking & Why??

[fightingquaker13]

hmmm.
 I'm going to say  merkel 1620e  it converted me form single trigger to double trigger.

mini 14, total convinced me that ruger makes crappy rifles.  You could not hit a pie pan at 100 yds with it.  I can hit a clay bird at 100 yds almost every time with a M1 and surplus ammo standing. 

I'm with you on the mini-14. I owned one and loved it under 50 yards, beyond that......Its a shame because it sholud have been the perfect carbine. The M1 carbine only in a useful caliber. I don't know what Ruger did wrong, but this should have been the go to gun for any one in LE or just civilians wanting a solid SD piece. Instead its a very sad also ran. If Ruger could get it right, I'd buy another one tommorow.
FQ13

[TAB]

I tried about 20 diffrent types of ammo, cheap stuff, expensive stuff, hand loads,voodoo... you name it. It was ok for the 1st shot, after that, no telling where your shots were going.  one of only 2 guns I've ever sold.  The only good thing about it was, it functioned. 

we even went so far as to lock it down into a test vise, that was owned by a local gun smith.  the damn thing could not keep it on the paper.  sent it back to ruger, they said it was fine, it was with in thier tolerance.  That pretty much soured me from every buying another ruger product.

[brosometal]

See, I dont like the grip angle on the XD -- or more so that you have a grip safety in conjunction with that grip angle. I'm not a big fan of the Glock grip angle, but I am used to it. I could also get used to the XD grip angle if it did not have the grip safety. I could  not 100% trust myself to have to engage a grip safety in a defensive shoot unless it was more of a true 1911 angle grip.

I also dont care for how light the trigger is on the XD.... its much like the "NY style" Glock trigger.... I much prefer the OEM Glock trigger weight

Have you ever fired an XD?  The grip safety, at least for me, wasn't even a thought.  When you pick up the gun, you disengage the grip safety.  I'm not poopin' on Glocks, I just don't see it as an issue.

[Solus]

Have you ever fired an XD?  The grip safety, at least for me, wasn't even a thought.  When you pick up the gun, you disengage the grip safety.  I'm not poopin' on Glocks, I just don't see it as an issue.

Col. Cooper wasn't a fan of the grip safety on the 1911 and recommended it be pinned down to be always depressed.