Connecticut school shooting

[tombogan03884]

Great point!!

What seems to be lost is if mayhem, infamy or revenge is the goal, then a Samari sword (take out the cowering teacher and go for the innocent little ones), a book-bag full of Molotov fire bombs, or PVC pipe bombs work too. The instrument used is not the problem.

That is where you are wrong, If he used a sword or axe it would have been one day local news with maybe one national mention.
But the objective has nothing to do with safety, the goal is to take your guns.

[Solus]

Heard on the news in the last day or two that there were no mass murders in this country by juveniles until the late 70's.
So going back say 10 - 20 years before that what happened, what changed?  Ah the 60's!  Lyndon Johnson's great society.  As the products of the 60's reached adolescence is when these events started.  Coincidence? I think not.  You can do whatever you want, it's OK.  There is no shame.  There needs to be shame!

It started then.  The whole 'feel good' experience lead to a lack of respect and a lack of responsibility.

I have heard it in songs and in talking to the children of my generation....

If you are drunk or  high, you somehow aren't responsible for what you do.

The song might be titled   I am my own worst enemy.   Don't know for sure the title...that is just a lyric.

another line from that song....     I was drunk. I didn't mean to call you that.         or close to that.

Sickening to me.  Lack of respect and failure to take responsibility for your actions are the greatest personal failings.

[Solus]

That is where you are wrong, If he used a sword or axe it would have been one day local news with maybe one national mention.
But the objective has nothing to do with safety, the goal is to take your guns.

Tom is only right.  

Doing something that would have an immediate impact on saving children's lives, like arming teachers and administrators, will not be on the table.  Saving children's lives does nothing to further the goal of disarming the citizens and having gun totting teachers save the day would do much to discredit it.

[tombogan03884]

Heard on the news in the last day or two that there were no mass murders in this country by juveniles until the late 70's.
So going back say 10 - 20 years before that what happened, what changed?  Ah the 60's!  Lyndon Johnson's great society.  As the products of the 60's reached adolescence is when these events started.  Coincidence? I think not.  You can do whatever you want, it's OK.  There is no shame.  There needs to be shame!

The media as usual get it wrong.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_school-related_attacks

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_attacks_related_to_primary_schools

July 26, 1764    Franklin County, Pennsylvania, United States    Four Lenape warriors    10–11 dead, 2 injured    10–11    2    Enoch Brown school massacre. On July 26, 1764, four Lenape American Indian warriors entered a log schoolhouse of white settlers in what is now Franklin County, Pennsylvania, near present-day Greencastle. Inside were the schoolmaster, Enoch Brown, and twelve young students. Brown pleaded with the warriors to spare the children before being shot and scalped. The warriors then began to tomahawk and scalp the children, killing nine or ten of them (reports vary). Two children who had been scalped survived.[1]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_attacks_related_to_secondary_schools

November 2, 1853    Louisville, Kentucky, United States    Matthew Ward    1 dead       A student, Matthew Ward, bought a self-cocking pistol in the morning, went to school and killed Schoolmaster Mr. Butler for excessively punishing his brother the day before. Even though he shot the Schoolmaster point blank in front of his classmates, he was acquitted.[1]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_attacks_related_to_post-secondary_schools

March 11, 1908    Boston, Massachusetts, United States    Sarah Chamberlain Weed    2 dead    2       Elizabeth Bailey Hardee is shot to death by Sarah Chamberlain Weed at the Laurens School, a finishing school in Boston. Weed then turns the gun on herself and commits suicide.[1]

[PegLeg45]

The media as usual get it wrong.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_school-related_attacks

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_attacks_related_to_primary_schools

July 26, 1764    Franklin County, Pennsylvania, United States    Four Lenape warriors    10–11 dead, 2 injured    10–11    2    Enoch Brown school massacre. On July 26, 1764, four Lenape American Indian warriors entered a log schoolhouse of white settlers in what is now Franklin County, Pennsylvania, near present-day Greencastle. Inside were the schoolmaster, Enoch Brown, and twelve young students. Brown pleaded with the warriors to spare the children before being shot and scalped. The warriors then began to tomahawk and scalp the children, killing nine or ten of them (reports vary). Two children who had been scalped survived.[1]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_attacks_related_to_secondary_schools

November 2, 1853    Louisville, Kentucky, United States    Matthew Ward    1 dead       A student, Matthew Ward, bought a self-cocking pistol in the morning, went to school and killed Schoolmaster Mr. Butler for excessively punishing his brother the day before. Even though he shot the Schoolmaster point blank in front of his classmates, he was acquitted.[1]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_attacks_related_to_post-secondary_schools

March 11, 1908    Boston, Massachusetts, United States    Sarah Chamberlain Weed    2 dead    2       Elizabeth Bailey Hardee is shot to death by Sarah Chamberlain Weed at the Laurens School, a finishing school in Boston. Weed then turns the gun on herself and commits suicide.[1]

We just didn't have CNN and as many sheep back then.

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[blackwolfe]

If I remember correctly the guy who stated the information was one of the I think Secret Service guys or Military guys that studied threat assessment and mass murders

Not defending the media propagandist, just trying to relate where the statement came from.

[Big Frank]

It's still not as bad as the Bath School disaster of 1927. There are other ways to kill kids.   http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bath_School_disaster

[Solus]

If I remember correctly the guy who stated the information was one of the I think Secret Service guys or Military guys that studied threat assessment and mass murders

Not defending the media propagandist, just trying to relate where the statement came from.

He still might be correct.  I don't think I saw any instances of mass shootings performed by juveniles in the links listed.