Author Topic: TrackingPoint...I gotta get me one of these!  (Read 13018 times)

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TrackingPoint...I gotta get me one of these!
« on: September 02, 2013, 01:04:48 PM »
"TrackingPoint introduces the world's first precision guided firearm -- the revolutionary new long-range shooting system that puts jet-fighter lock and launch technology in a rifle enabling anyone to hit moving targets at extended ranges".

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Re: TrackingPoint...I gotta get me one of these!
« Reply #1 on: September 02, 2013, 01:31:55 PM »
Fire by wire and it could also "pull the trigger"  the ultimate "surprise break".

Also sounds like there is enough information for the whole action to be mounted on a servo controlled gimbals mount can find the sweet spot.

Just sit in your underground bunker and "mark" the target and relax.
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Re: TrackingPoint...I gotta get me one of these!
« Reply #2 on: September 04, 2013, 11:53:27 PM »
Is it really "hunting" if the computer does it for you from 1200 yards away?


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Re: TrackingPoint...I gotta get me one of these!
« Reply #3 on: September 05, 2013, 10:24:15 AM »
Somebody probably said the same thing when bows & arrows replaces the spear or when people used guns instead of a bow & arrow.
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Re: TrackingPoint...I gotta get me one of these!
« Reply #4 on: September 08, 2013, 11:12:06 AM »
Stephen Hunter "used" this technology a couple years ago in a book. He said in an interview that it was only a matter if time before someone developed it. The application and integration of existing technologies is the next wave of the future.
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Re: TrackingPoint...I gotta get me one of these!
« Reply #5 on: September 08, 2013, 11:20:45 AM »
Stephen Hunter "used" this technology a couple years ago in a book. He said in an interview that it was only a matter if time before someone developed it. The application and integration of existing technologies is the next wave of the future.

That was "I Sniper".
Bob Lee Swagger used a conventionally scoped bolt action to kill the guy who was relying on it .

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Re: TrackingPoint...I gotta get me one of these!
« Reply #6 on: September 08, 2013, 01:04:49 PM »
That was "I Sniper".
Bob Lee Swagger used a conventionally scoped bolt action to kill the guy who was relying on it .

Swagger used a whole lot more than the rifle to do the job. 

He use skill, knowledge and, perhaps, understanding of the thought patterns of accomplished snipers, which his foe was.

He checked out the area, found where a sniper would pick to make his shot then went to the "target area", ranged his shot for a sniper in that position and just waited for the guy to show up with his fancy gear.

Swagger just eliminated the advantage of the fancy gear by eliminating his need for it by setting up for the shot in advance. 

Not technically superior...just smarter. 
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Re: TrackingPoint...I gotta get me one of these!
« Reply #7 on: September 09, 2013, 11:56:58 AM »
Swagger used a whole lot more than the rifle to do the job.  

He use skill, knowledge and, perhaps, understanding of the thought patterns of accomplished snipers, which his foe was.

He checked out the area, found where a sniper would pick to make his shot then went to the "target area", ranged his shot for a sniper in that position and just waited for the guy to show up with his fancy gear.

Swagger just eliminated the advantage of the fancy gear by eliminating his need for it by setting up for the shot in advance.  

Not technically superior...just smarter.  

None of which takes batteries.
The point however is that technology can not beat experience.

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« Reply #8 on: September 09, 2013, 07:29:33 PM »
Wonder how said technology would work against say, a drone? 8)
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Re: TrackingPoint...I gotta get me one of these!
« Reply #9 on: October 14, 2013, 03:12:10 PM »
They use the term "ethical" and I would say it is anything but.  Two of the great challenges of ethically harvesting game at distance is dealing with the environmental conditions and animal behavior.  The hunter must be able to understand the wind "patterns" for shooting beyond say 300 yards or so, as well as slight humidity variations due to dark vs. light foliage, water, etc over which the bullet passes.  These could be measured through the path of the bullet flight, but then what would be the use?  This is where DOPE comes into play for the skilled long-range marksman.  Doing it at the range is one thing, in the field is another.

Then you have animal behavior.  When we are talking TOF of the bullet in the range of even 1/4 second up to 1 second or more, the slight movement of the animal takes a fatal shot to a wounding shot.  Study of the game animal in the specific region is imperative to understand that when a certain animal does X, I have a window of Y seconds to send it.

That is not even to mention bullet performance at range.

I have taken many head of big game with all manner of arms.  Last Saturday, I harvested a Buck Pronghorn killed at a distance of 680 yards.  I have close to 1000 rounds downrange from 300 to 700 yards to measure group size, cold to hot bore shift, ballistic gelatin performance, and to assess my skill at seeing the wind, humidity, etc. in the field.  I have, over the last 12 years, hunted that same unit 8 times and spent 22 days watching, predicting, measuring and learning the unit and the animals in that unit.  Sure, the Buck I wanted, after waiting 12 years for my tag, got shot by a group of road hunters who shot over 15 rounds at it, but I was still happy with my harvest and the skill it took to get there.  BTW, my self imposed maximum range was 700 yards due to bullet performance.  I can hit the kill zone out to about 1000 with my rig, but I could not get bullet performance to ensure a clean kill.  When you are more than 1/4 mile away, you have to be able to prove you can kill game cleanly.

Yes, I have a ballistics program on my phone, and it helps, but it won't teach you animal behavior nor will it teach you to read the environmental conditions across the path of your bullet.

BTW, in the movie, which was fiction, Swagger was used to frame himself, not make the shot. 

 

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