Wow! Thats a pretty elitist view of our military. You do realize of course, that our military is the best trained most highly educated force on the planet? Ever ! Hell one of the primary requirements in our military academies is ethics. More than Congress
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20100226/ap_on_go_co/us_ethics_rangel
WASHINGTON – Rep. Charles Rangel, the most powerful tax-writing lawmaker in Congress and a 40-year veteran of Capitol Hill, acknowledged Thursday that an ethics panel has accused him of accepting corporate money for Caribbean trips in violation of House rules.
The findings are certain to raise questions of whether Rangel, a New York Democrat, can continue as Ways and Means Committee chairman in an election year. Democrats took over the House in 2006 on a campaign promise to "end a culture of corruption" in Congress that they blamed on 12 years of Republican rule.
The ethics panel also ended another widespread investigation Thursday, saying it found no violations of House rules by seven lawmakers who steered government money and projects and contracts to favored companies that donated to their re-election campaigns.
A copy of the letters and an accompanying report on them were obtained by The Associated Press. All seven — five Democrats and two Republicans — are or were senior members of the House Appropriations Committee.
The most prominent of the them was the late Rep. John Murtha, D-Pa., the former chairman of the defense appropriations subcommittee who died earlier this month. The other six lawmakers exonerated in that probe are Reps. Norman Dicks, D-Wash.; Jim Moran, D-Va.; Marcy Kaptur, D-Ohio; Peter Visclosky, D-Ind.; Todd Tiahrt, R-Kan.; and C.W. "Bill" Young, R-Fla.
The appropriations went to companies represented by a now-defunct lobbying firm known as PMA Group — formerly Paul Magliocchetti Associates.
Our soldiers take extraordinary measures to avoid civilian casualties. That mentality doesn't disappear.
Also, the reason for this "brainwashing" to use your word is to eliminate the individual and force you to work as a team. And that is the way 90% of the soldiers I know feel about it. It doesn't matter where you're from, you are an American soldier and I'm proud to fight by your side.
Even you FQ could kill a man with a weapon pointed at you. You don't even have to think about it. But ask yourself, could you look into the eyes of a scared, defenseless person, and pull the trigger just because your government told you to? I think you should give our military a lot more credit for morality, and conscience . Because your comments here are starting to sound very John Kerryish.
I bet the people of Russia and Germany, thought the same thing .
But you are not looking at it from the right angle, The Military and Police are a nationally linked Bureaucracy, the first tier are pretty predictable, that's the "Paper Pushers who will simply push the papers, whether they be to free slaves or machine gun Bosnian Muslim men .
The next level is resistance needs to start, Unit Commanders will decide for themselves and their troops will most likely obey them with no idea what the situation actually is.
Having never wind surfed I resent the Kerry comment. 
I also think we're having two different arguments. Do I believe our troops are going to participate in a tinfoil defecient, Alex Jones fantasy of blindly following the anti-christ/UN/Free Mason/Great Pumpkin plot to round people up and send them in specially designed box cars to FEMA death camps with shiny new Guillotines? No. Do I think that in a condition of civil unrest such as the LA riots or Katrina that its going to be the rare soldier who says "That's an unlawful order Colonel, I refuse to obey"? Again yes. File a complaint later yes, but refuse an order to sieze a gun, forcibly evacuate, enforce an illegal curfew or the like under arms in the field I am not so confident. No elitism or lack of love for the army, just looking at the historical record.
FQ13
I need to buy a lottery ticket, I think FQ summed up my opinion pretty well.
I think it will be just like Lexington.
Both sides were looking for "Someone" to decide whether or not to fire, Then "some did, then EVERYBODY did.
The Infamous "Boston Massacre" happened because 6 soldiers misheard their officers order "For God's sake, don't FIRE !"
They only heard "FIRE!" while they were being Jeered, Jostled, and pelted with snowballs. So they did.
Kent State presents an even better example though, of a confused situation getting out of control at a political Rally (Chicago, 1968, Dem convention . )
The US Military has already been used in exactly that way. George Washington led out the entire Army to put down the "Whiskey Rebellion".
Then of course there was the first Civil War where in some cases troops not only fired on "Fellow Americans"but some times they fired at relatives and life long friends.
Any body ever heard of the "Bonus Marchers" and the story of how on Presidential Orders, Gen. MacArthur ordered troops under Capt. Patton to use bayonets, tear gas and Tanks, to disperse a protester shanty town Composed of homeless WWI veterans forced out of work by the Depression
MBTV
Forum Index
Help
Calendar
Contact Info
Register as a member
