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Title: Using scopes.
Post by: Dakotaranger on March 14, 2007, 11:33:51 PM
This is going to make me look stupid, But I don't really care.

I'm looking for a book that explains sighting in a rifle scope, how to make adjustments according to conditions and ranging ect. Any suggestions?
Title: Re: Using scopes.
Post by: CDR on March 15, 2007, 12:22:28 AM
Don't have any book suggestions but this might help in the meantime.......

http://home.adelphia.net/~geffert/sight.htm
Title: Re: Using scopes.
Post by: DonWorsham on March 15, 2007, 06:20:56 AM
This is going to make me look stupid, But I don't really care.

The only way we would know you look stupid is for you to use a real picture instead of the one with those nice looking guns.
Title: Re: Using scopes.
Post by: Snake45 on March 15, 2007, 08:09:13 AM
Don't have any book suggestions but this might help in the meantime.......

http://home.adelphia.net/~geffert/sight.htm

That's some good stuff there.

I'd add: Don't be afraid to start close--50 feet to 75 yards. You can save a lot of ammo this way.

Another good way to save ammo: Sandbag the rifle securely, remove the adjustment caps, and fire one shot at 50 feet to 25 yards. Now set the rifle up in the sandbags so the crosshairs are centering the same target you just shot at. Hold the rifle securely, and while you look through the scope, have a friend turn the adjustment screws until the crosshairs are exactly on the bullet hole you just made. The gun is now perfectly zeroed for that range! You can now move back to 100 yards and start working on fine-tuning. You will probably need to add a few clicks one way or the other (especially in elevation adjustment) but it's almost certain that you'll be "on the paper" and reasonably close to target center--and in just ONE shot!  ;)
Title: Re: Using scopes.
Post by: JohnE on March 15, 2007, 10:01:55 AM
I was curious, so I did a Google search of 'Installing rifle scopes'  What came up surprised me, 205,000 results for this.  All kinds of web sites and pages on the subject.  You'll have reading material on installing scopes for years to come!  :)  Good luck!
Title: Re: Using scopes.
Post by: Michael Bane on March 16, 2007, 06:45:43 AM
I usually get the rounds on paper at 25 yards, then finalize the scope at 100. If you know a gunsmith with a laser bore-sighter (or want to pop the $100 bucks or so yourself), it can shorten the time. Remember, however, to REMOVE THE BORE-SIGHTER FROM THE BARREL before shooting the gun! Really!!!

Michael B
Title: Re: Using scopes.
Post by: DonWorsham on March 16, 2007, 07:10:30 AM
Here's one from sportsmansguide.com for $40 bucks.

http://www.sportsmansguide.com/cb/cb.asp?a=295740

Here are more... http://www.sportsmansguide.com/search/search.asp?r=Page%3A+%2FDefault.asp+KW+Box&s=SEARCH&a=search&k=bore+site
Title: Re: Using scopes.
Post by: Hazcat on March 16, 2007, 07:39:49 AM
I usually get the rounds on paper at 25 yards, then finalize the scope at 100. If you know a gunsmith with a laser bore-sighter (or want to pop the $100 bucks or so yourself), it can shorten the time. Remember, however, to REMOVE THE BORE-SIGHTER FROM THE BARREL before shooting the gun! Really!!!

Michael B

Speaking from experience are we??  :o
Title: Re: Using scopes.
Post by: Snake45 on March 16, 2007, 08:35:35 AM
Speaking from experience are we??  :o
Last year there were some pics circulating among many of the gun sites on the net (including IIRC Michael's Blog) where someone had forgotten. Remember when Bugs would stick his finger in the muzzle of Elmer's shotgun? Yeah, it's kinda like that.... ;D
Title: Re: Using scopes.
Post by: CDR on March 16, 2007, 08:50:44 AM
I usually get the rounds on paper at 25 yards, then finalize the scope at 100. If you know a gunsmith with a laser bore-sighter (or want to pop the $100 bucks or so yourself), it can shorten the time. Remember, however, to REMOVE THE BORE-SIGHTER FROM THE BARREL before shooting the gun! Really!!!

Michael B


Michael,

This is similar to Daffy Duck's bill spinning around on his head and ending up backwards...........dis..th..picable.
Title: Re: Using scopes.
Post by: DonWorsham on March 16, 2007, 08:58:33 AM

Th-th-th-that's all folks!
Title: Re: Using scopes.
Post by: Hazcat on March 16, 2007, 10:53:56 AM
Last year there were some pics circulating among many of the gun sites on the net (including IIRC Michael's Blog) where someone had forgotten. Remember when Bugs would stick his finger in the muzzle of Elmer's shotgun? Yeah, it's kinda like that.... ;D

Did ya ever see the Myth Busters episode on that?  They tried several ways and couldn't get it to 'banana peel'.
Title: Re: Using scopes.
Post by: Snake45 on March 16, 2007, 11:12:49 AM
Did ya ever see the Myth Busters episode on that?  They tried several ways and couldn't get it to 'banana peel'.
I guess they didn't try leaving a laser bore sighter in the barrel.  ;D
Title: Re: Using scopes.
Post by: CDR on March 16, 2007, 12:11:58 PM
Mythbusters..........aren't these the geniuses who determined that there is no danger of anyone getting killed by shooting a bullet into the sky?  Something about not having enough weight and mass when it lands?    ::)
Title: Re: Using scopes.
Post by: Hazcat on March 16, 2007, 01:50:09 PM
Mythbusters..........aren't these the geniuses who determined that there is no danger of anyone getting killed by shooting a bullet into the sky?  Something about not having enough weight and mass when it lands?    ::)

If you shoot STRAIGHT up and it hits the 'stop point' (my name for it) and then comes down it will not have the velocity or mass, BUT the probablility of making that shot is VERY remote.  Most likely it will be a ballistic trajectory so it will not be falling from a 'stop' and will retain much of the original velocity and it will kill.  That was their finding.
Title: Re: Using scopes.
Post by: CDR on March 16, 2007, 01:57:46 PM
If you shoot STRAIGHT up and it hits the 'stop point' (my name for it) and then comes down it will not have the velocity or mass, BUT the probablility of making that shot is VERY remote.  Most likely it will be a ballistic trajectory so it will not be falling from a 'stop' and will retain much of the original velocity and it will kill.  That was their finding.

I think they sent the wrong message to people given that people have been killed in the past by falling bullets.  Didn't they determine that the myth that you could be killed by a bullet shot into the sky was "busted"?
Title: Re: Using scopes.
Post by: tombogan03884 on March 15, 2008, 11:50:34 AM
I think they sent the wrong message to people given that people have been killed in the past by falling bullets.  Didn't they determine that the myth that you could be killed by a bullet shot into the sky was "busted"?

They also claimed to have "BUSTED" the "MYTH" of Carlos Hathcocks counter sniper scope shot, but on their website Jamie did it with an M-1 Garand using AP ammo, OFF HAND, which impressed me. But Hathcocks shot was not the only documented case, the book and movie "Enemy at the Gates" is based on documented engagment between Soviet sniper named Zaitsev and the head of the German sniper school, a Col. named Koenig who was sent to Stalingrad specificly to kill Zaitsev. Koenig was struck through the eye by a bullet that traveled down his scope tube.