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Member Section => Handguns => Topic started by: WatchManUSA on March 04, 2010, 02:02:51 PM
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I finally acted on MB's advice and ordered up a Ruger LCP. While I'm in a job transition I picked up a part-time job at a local gun shop. Ruger has a program for gun shop employees to purchase one gun a year below dealer cost but you have to order it from the factory. It should come in about three weeks. I'm going to pick up a wallet holster for it, too. A local guy makes a wallet holster that you can fire the LCP without taking it out of the holster.
I figured it was about time to carry at all possible times.
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Good for you, you will enjoy it.
One suggestion - go for a pocket holster that covers the trigger. I mean, seriously, something like the Desanti Nemesis. The LCP does not have a safety, although it does have a pretty good trigger pull on it. There is too much risk of leaving the trigger exposed to be able to shoot through the holster. It's safer to use a Nemesis or something similar.
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Love my LCP and I am sure you will too. Enjoy. Practice. Enjoy some more.
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Good for you, you will enjoy it.
One suggestion - go for a pocket holster that covers the trigger. I mean, seriously, something like the Desanti Nemesis. The LCP does not have a safety, although it does have a pretty good trigger pull on it. There is too much risk of leaving the trigger exposed to be able to shoot through the holster. It's safer to use a Nemesis or something similar.
The LCP has been a great companion of mine since the day I got it. Small, simple and easily concealed. It will serve you well also.
I agree with Pathfinder though. Make sure the pocket holster covers the trigger or you could have a much more exciting day then you planned.
Stay Safe,
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With the current state of affairs in CA, I don't foresee the LCP ever getting approved for sale here. Although, somehow the Kahr 380 has been approved. It costs more than the Ruger, but may get more attention from me when it comes to filling the pocket-pistol role. In CA, one of the requirement for new guns to be approved is that they have a magazine safety. Does anyone know if this gun has that, or have they found a loophole?
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Mine fires with the mag removed.
Sorry.
I moved out of CA 20 years ago because it was too scary then. I can only imagine what you have to deal with now.
Hang in there!
Stay Safe,
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Congrats.
A note though...
Doesnt the NFA regulate guns that can be fired while still in a wallet holster? Isn't that an AOW or something?
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Congrats. I use the Nemesis Holster for my P3AT Kel-Tec, except for the slide lock, they are practically identical.
This holster covers the trigger, and looks more like a wallet, whether in my front or back pocket. The mag extensions are really great (for both pistols), especially if you have larger hands.
They (both) like lube, and a little "break-in" with a variety of ammo, is always good.
Co-worker just picked one up two weeks ago, (LCP), and with Cor-Bon, or Speer GD's, it's a great "leetle" gun to have.
Even though Ruger copied the Kel-Tec....
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Kel-Tec!
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Doesnt the NFA regulate guns that can be fired while still in a wallet holster? Isn't that an AOW or something?
Not positive, but I thought it was a belt mounted rotating holster, enabling it to be fired without a draw.
Seems a holster that allowed you to draw the whole holster and fire would be no more "dangerous" than the pistol being in the pocket with no holster.
But what seems logical many times has little relation to what is law.
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Love my LCP and I am sure you will too. Enjoy. Practice. Enjoy some more.
Practice isn't a problem. I work at a gun shop with an indoor range and get to shoot at no charge. I get a discount on ammo, too. It is a hard place to work for a guy in "job transition."
Thanks for the advice on the holster. Good food for thought. The guy who makes the wallet holster also makes pocket holsters.
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You should also take MB advise and go with the Crimson trace laser. For $159 shipped, you cant go wrong. Love mine and it goes with me everywhere i go! Good luck with yours.
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You should also take MB advise and go with the Crimson trace laser. For $159 shipped, you cant go wrong. Love mine and it goes with me everywhere i go! Good luck with yours.
Yep, lookin' at that, too. I just found out I can get a sweet deal on CT, too.
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Practice isn't a problem. I work at a gun shop with an indoor range and get to shoot at no charge. I get a discount on ammo, too. It is a hard place to work for a guy in "job transition."
Thanks for the advice on the holster. Good food for thought. The guy who makes the wallet holster also makes pocket holsters.
You are going to be getting an "I hate Watchman" thread like Billt and KPR ;D
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You are going to be getting an "I hate Watchman" thread like Billt and KPR ;D
Funny, for some reason, I was having that thought too. :D
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I guess I could change my handle to "donthateme." The problem with working in a gun shop is I have so many things I want to buy and so little money. Many of the manufacturers have purchase programs for gun shop employees to buy product below dealer cost. They want the employees using the products and, if possible wear them at work. We all open carry in the store so customers can see the type of gun, holster, belt, flashlight and other accessories we have.
I'm talking about Springfield, Kimber, S&W, Walther, Surefire, Crimson Trace, Leupold, Trijicon, Ruger and others. So even at the reduced cost my list of stuff I want far exceeds my budget.
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WatchMan, see if you can get some MagTech 77 gr. SCHP ammo for your LCP. Accurate and easy shooting. Big HP. I also carry a spare mag (loaded with WWB) in my pocket but am looking for a knife sheath to carry it on my belt. Tried other ammo but trust the MT 100%.
FWIW
Richard
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For Californians, FuzDaddy, peruse the CALguns.net site. We can buy this gun in PPT/FTF sales but we cannot buy this gun new from the shop. So, if an LEO owns one, since they can buy off list handguns, and wants to sell it, we can buy it from him, or if someone moves into the State with it, and wants to sell it, we can buy it. I've tried a couple of times but always been beat out by someone quicker. They don't last long! It is a weird loophole but it is there...we can buy off list handguns through private party transfers but not new at the gun shop...although the transfer still has to be completed at the shop and the handgun still has to stay for ten days in "jail". And the CALguns.net private party sales page is a great resource for used firearms.
Otherwise, get an on list handgun with similar qualities!
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BTW: How much was the LCP with the below dealer cost discount ?
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BTW: How much was the LCP with the below dealer cost discount ?
I'm not sure if I can post my price in a public forum. I don't want to mess up the program for me or others. I'm sure there are people from Ruger on this site.
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Congrats.
A note though...
Doesnt the NFA regulate guns that can be fired while still in a wallet holster? Isn't that an AOW or something?
I think the regulation has to do with guns that can be fired without people being able to tell that you have a gun in your hand. I think if it exposes enough where people can tell it's a gun it's legal.
http://www.gunnersecurity.com/holster-Kel_Tek_wallet-1.htm There's a link on this page to an ATF Document about it.