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Member Section => Down Range Cafe => Topic started by: scott.ballard on March 19, 2010, 06:04:14 PM
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Argentina province OKs chemical castration for rapists,
Buenos Aires, Argentina (CNN) -- Officials in Argentina's Mendoza province have authorized chemical castration for rapists after a significant increase in sexual assaults last year.
Mendoza authorities convened a scientific legal committee and authorized the voluntary chemical castration by decree.
"By using medication that lowers the person's sexual desire and with psychological treatment, the person can be reintroduced into society without being a threat," Mendoza Governor Celso Jaque said.
Eleven convicted rapists in the province have agreed to the treatment in return for reduced sentences.
Several members of the legal committee said the treatment must be voluntary or it would violate international law and Argentina's constitution.
"Actually, it's a right they have like I have the legal right to tie my tubes. I have the right to use contraceptives," said Nelly Minyersky, a family and bioethics lawyer. "Also, theoretically, if I go to a doctor and tell him I'd rather not because it bothers me ... it's a right."
But some experts caution that the treatment is reversible and its effectiveness is relative.
"This leaves out a large number of sexual delinquents who have perverted pathologies," said Enrique da Rosa, a forensic sexologist and psychologist. "That is to say, I can't have the chemical impulse, the hormonal impulse, but in reality I can enjoy making the victim submit."
The term "chemical castration" is a misnomer because the practice involves medication, not surgical intervention. Its effectiveness also stops when treatment is discontinued.
The practice in Mendoza follows measures adopted in several European countries and eight U.S. states: California, Florida, Georgia, Montana, Oregon, Wisconsin, Louisiana and Iowa.
Depending on the success of the program in Mendoza, the rest of Argentina could follow suit, officials said.
I'm wondering if it will do any good? Rape is a crime of violence. The castrations could only serve to make them more violent.
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I'm wondering if it will do any good? Rape is a crime of violence. The castrations could only serve to make them more violent.
I agree.
I think it depends on the initial motivating factor. Such as whether, as the article suggests, it is sexually motivated by hormones and psychological problems....or if the SOB is just plain mean and violent.
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Should have clarified one thing, I agree with TAB below. The solution to the problem is swift justice...not molly-cottling.
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I have a better sollution, and it envoles a BFH and pair of rusty garden sheers.
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I do not care if it works or not. Spill a extra dose of the
authorized chemical castration
on the scumbags crotch and make him an IT! When they are done the rapist should piss and crap out the same hole like a bird.
tex
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Better than nothing, but like has been said, reversable, I like good old fashioned nut cutting, often called gentling, as it drops testosterone levels, makes most male animals calmer. But a sociopath, I have my doubts, its about power, not sex.
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I forgot to add the the
authorized chemical castration
Should be a harsh acid, base or lit torch.
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No need for cruel and unusual punishment or removing the unit. Just a simple option. Life, or a shot of novacaine and some bolt cutters. Still, I do doubt this. Rape, and here we're talking the pre-meditated, not dumb frat boy who doesn't understand no when he's had three too many tequilas, but sneaking through a bedroom window rapist.... I'm pretty much convinced that they do get off on the violence, not the sex, and the only way to deal with these guys is by applying the bolt cutters to the head. The bolt cutter to the balls will work for the frat boy, but the real sickos, well, you can't save everyone but you can save yourself. That's why God invented rope.
FQ13 who is no one's liberal when it comes to premeditated violent crime. If I miss, the judge will get you, at least in a perfect world.
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Darn FQ, Even I have heard about the psych studies that show the connection between Rape and issues of control .
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Darn FQ, Even I have heard about the psych studies that show the connection between Rape and issues of control .
What are you saying here Tom? I think I'm missing the punch line. Would like to hear more.
FQ13
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There have been several studies that linked rape to aggression rather than lust, (unless it's your "frat boy" ;D )
In the Autobiography of Malcom X as well as Bobby Seale"s Soul on Ice there are references to the raping of white women as an act of retaliation against the "White establishment".
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There have been several studies that linked rape to aggression rather than lust, (unless it's your "frat boy" ;D )
In the Autobiography of Malcom X as well as Bobby Seale"s Soul on Ice there are references to the raping of white women as an act of retaliation against the "White establishment".
Agreed. I read Seale's book. It sickened me (well written and with some good points, but it still sickened me). I mean I get his anger, and politics aside, I can't truly dismiss the attitude the Panthers had. If it had been us, we would be chomping at the bit to shoot back at the Klan (a few of whom were my relatives, but still, F them). The thing that made me want to scream though, was that he never really expressed remorse. He used those white women the same way the Klan used the blacks they lynched. As tools to make an F'ed up political point and deal with their own issues without ever seeing them as human. Its at that point I stop giving a damn about your message, stop caring about your troubled child hood, and stop trying to understand or listen to you at all. Its at that point I see you as a clear and present danger and just want you gone. Its not about justice even. Its about protecting me and mine, and that's a far older, far more deadly, and in IMHO far wiser instinct.
FQ13 Who says castrate the date rapists (or send them to jail forever, their call) and just plain hang the sexual predators.
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Rape has long been a tool (pardon the pun) used against a oppressed people during times of genocide. Africa, Europe, Asia; it's all the same, rape the women and dilute the gene pool.
There are very few more heinous crimes, IMHO.
Story time:
Many, many years ago a friend/coworker's wife was acquaintance raped while he was on deployment. It was basically a "he said - she said" thing so, in those days, he was going to walk. Some friends/coworkers found this guy bar hopping one night. While he was walking to the the next bar a car pulled up, a window was rolled down, and a shotgun was stuck out the window. The shotgun went "click" but the it was seen, heard, and understood by the jerk. He changed his plea and did a couple of years in prison. I love a happy ending.
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I have a better sollution, and it envoles a BFH and pair of rusty garden sheers.
that's it bugger the chemical castration
another one is the following
put them in a shed with there "appendage ;) " stuck in a vice then take the handle out of it, tie one arm behind there back and a knife in the other hand
then set the shed on fire there option on how it is going to end...
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Should be a harsh acid, base or lit torch.
Starting from the legs up....