The Down Range Forum
Member Section => Handguns => Topic started by: BAC on May 18, 2010, 02:32:46 PM
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I'm thinking about trading in my 92fs for another 9mm. I don't have any desire to own anything in .40SW, and the .45 will be coming along shortly. These are the models I am thinking about, and that I can afford.
I must be evolving or something, because Glock actually made the list. ;D
Yes, there have been many similar polls in the past, but this one is different...it's mine. So let's hear it. I'm all ears.
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i have the fnp9m and love it,never a problem ,fits mt hand and has a good sight picture.
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If you want the Glock 19 you should wait and get the 4th Gen. The way it looks, the perceived recoil is greatly reduce by the dual recoil spring.
I love my Glocks, but if it were not on the list my choices would be in this order:
S&W
FN
XDM
XD
*What role will this pistol be used for?
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Whatchya' want it for? Plinking, CCW, house gun, IDPA? The correct answer is still Glock, but it might help the less enlightened make their calls. ;D Serously the're all good, but for the $550ish price, and much less used, its hard to beat the G-19.
FQ13
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I have a FNP-9 and have been nothing but happy with it. Reliable, accurate, and good ergonomics. I haven't handled a FNX yet so I can't speak to them. Now that I've said that, what little I have handled the XDm, I have liked the ergonomics and balance of it. I'm not a Glock fan due to the ergonomics but I know many that swear by them. The S&W seems top heavy and I didn't like the trigger much.
I serious doubt you'll not be happy whichever way you decide to go.
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Thank you, Eric. I forgot about that part.
This will be mainly for home defense and target shooting, with some concealed carry thrown into the mix. And if I ever get the chance and time to take some defensive courses, this will be the one I'd be taking with me.
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I traded my 2 Beretta 92fs' for a Glock 19 and a 22. The Berettas both had problems from day 1, not that there aren't good ones. I have a 96 Centurion that is great. The Glocks are great out of the box.
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I have a CZ75 SP01 Phantom and love it. It has the hammer drop. Can't get with the FNP. Almost bought an as new Glock 19 without finger grooves recently and could kick myself for not doing it. Also looking for a Glock 26 without FG's for carry. I would probably need to go to a range to fire each just to be sure but that is a big expense. Probably would rule out the XD only because I like the XDM better, especially the sights. Don't like the 3.8 though. Waiting to see if the sub-compact comes out...might add one to my stable of carry guns. Prefer anything without a thumb safety except the 1911 because I have a custom TS on them but can't get one made for anything else.
FWIW
Richard
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I have a CZ75 SP01 Phantom and love it. It has the hammer drop. Can't get with the FNP. Almost bought an as new Glock 19 without finger grooves recently and could kick myself for not doing it. Also looking for a Glock 26 without FG's for carry. I would probably need to go to a range to fire each just to be sure but that is a big expense. Probably would rule out the XD only because I like the XDM better, especially the sights. Don't like the 3.8 though. Waiting to see if the sub-compact comes out...might add one to my stable of carry guns. Prefer anything without a thumb safety except the 1911 because I have a custom TS on them but can't get one made for anything else.
FWIW
Richard
Thanks Richard. I added the CZ75 to the list. I rented one at a range a couple of years ago and was really impressed with its accuracy. The SP01 variants look good, too.
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I've shot G19/17s and XD45s and I like the feel of the XD way more than the Glock only because when I bring the gun up it almost instinctively lines up on target, something the Glock never did. Overall I chose the M&P9 just because when all the dust settled it was my favorite of what's on the list and my favorite M&P of all. After spending a long few days at the range with over 500 rounds through it the trigger just fit me and for my has been the most accurate at getting rounds on target repeatedly with the best level of accuracy. The gun is very soft shooting and returns to target naturally. In terms of flexibility I've found that the M&P is, of all my carry guns, the easiest to carry even being full size. After having owned 4 different M&Ps in different calibers and sizes and after owning several glocks, I have to say the M&P is what really amazed me with it's near perfect reliability an with exceptional service from S&W. I've put a total of 4,000+ rounds through the M&P family and only had issues with lead rounds in .40S&W in cold weather, that's it.
I would love some trigger time with the FN though, I really want on in 45.
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I would go with an FNP over the FNX. The fully ambidextrous FNX needs some extra love to seat the magazine all the way....it needs to go up & forward.
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I liked the way the m&p felt in my hand, it also pointed well for me. The xdm while flet good in my hand, it did not point well for me. I've never got to fondel a cz 75.
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I have a CZ-75B too and I would rate it at, or near the top of the 9mm list.
Also looking for a Glock 26 without FG's for carry.
Sorry to disappoint you Ellis, but the Glock 26/27 line was never made without the grooves. They're actually quite useful, even when they don't exactly fit your hand, because the grip is pretty short and most people have at least one finger hang off.
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There is only one firearm on the list that I'm allowed to buy in MA and because of that, I don't want it.
If I had the entire list available to me, I'd probably buy the Glock but in a smaller frame more suitable for daily carry. There are also several affordable 1911 frame guns in 9mm that you should consider if you like the platform.
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I know that this will probably stir the pot, but you might also check out the SR9c. I "fondled" one at the range a couple of months ago and it was a definite improvement over the SR9 full size that I looked at last year. The trigger was crisp and light, and it shot directly to POA without any idiosyncracies. It came with a 10 and a 17 rd magazine.
The guy that owned it let my try it out in the holster I was packin (IWB) and it felt great. It's not on the list, but you may want to try it.
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I hit the FN button but keep looking at the CZs. I already have the Glock and the M&P.
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I think the moral of this story is the same as with all similar threads. All the guns listed are good. You won't go too far wrong with any of them. Now go exploit the "rental loophole" and spend a Saturday figuring which you like best. It'll be a hundred bucks well spent, and a fun day on the range. Only contrary advice is that I wouldn't hesitate to buy a used Glock (hell I sold a G-17 with several thousand rounds through it and couldn't tell any functional difference from when it was new. That was about a year ago and I've never heard a complaint from the buyer, event though I offered a money back guarantee. :)). That saves you money. Its probably true of the others. I just don't have the experience with them to make that call.
FQ13
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If I were to get another 9MM I'd get the XD. Springfield Armory's warranty is great. No matter what caliber all the XD's all use the same holsters. It fits in my hand like my 1911's
I'm not a fan of the XDM's grips.
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Aren't they like baseball cards? You got to collect them all?
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I have to go with G19 for its balance and reliablity. It never fails to go bang.
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Fuzsd, been so long since fired the first one I saw I just assumed that it didn't have FG's. Sorry, FG's will never work for me on the 26/27! Just seem to get in the way of a good grip. Saw a 19 without them recently in as new shape and felt as if it was an old friend. Will have to reconsider my choice of a SC carry gun.
Thanks,
Richard
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I picked the Springfield XDM. Lot of rounds and features for a good price. I had a first year of production Smith and Wesson M&P 9mm when they first came out. I liked the gun, except for the fact that it seemed to eject all of its spent cases at my forehead. If I wasn't wearing a hat it would be a painful day at the range. I ended up trading it off for a Browning HP.
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So I'm thinkin' people 'round here likes dem Glocks?
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I started with a M&P40 and loved it. When I decided to go to 9mm I naturally wanted to stay in platform. When I did get my M&P9 I found out what the gun could really do. But on this list there really isn't a bad choice. That FNP9 is a real steal at the price I've seen them plus a 3rd mag in box never hurts. The M&P right now has a good deal to get 2 free mags by mail. From what I've heard the FN is a SIG without the price tag, so I would say that's truly high praise.