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Title: Another ugly special run gun from Charter - July 4th BBQ gun?
Post by: ericire12 on July 03, 2010, 10:44:34 AM
Yuck! It looks like Lady Liberty sneezed on this thing:



Charter Arms' new "Liberty" 38 Special revolver

(http://gunblast.com/images/Charter-Liberty38/DSC09963.JPG)
(http://gunblast.com/images/Charter-Liberty38/DSC09974.JPG)
(http://gunblast.com/images/Charter-Liberty38/DSC09966.JPG)
http://gunblast.com/Charter-Liberty38.htm
Title: Re: Another ugly special run gun from Charter - July 4th BBQ gun?
Post by: tombogan03884 on July 03, 2010, 11:12:46 AM
We already have an "Ugly Gun " thread.
Just because the designers heart was in the right place does not make up for their lack of talent.
Title: Re: Another ugly special run gun from Charter - July 4th BBQ gun?
Post by: fightingquaker13 on July 03, 2010, 11:17:25 AM
An explosion in the paint department maybe? Honestly, Charter seems to build some ok quality budget pistols. This is the same way kel-tec and Taurus got their start, and I have zero complaints.  But maybe, just maybe, they might want to get a rep for reliability and CS, not just butt ugliness of their guns? Just sayin'.
FQ13
Title: Re: Another ugly special run gun from Charter - July 4th BBQ gun?
Post by: alfsauve on July 03, 2010, 12:16:06 PM
I kinda like it......not enough to buy you understand.   

What I keep thinking is, how would I feel if I were a defendant in a self-defense case and they submitted that gun in evidence as the one I had used?   What would the jury think?
Title: Re: Another ugly special run gun from Charter - July 4th BBQ gun?
Post by: fightingquaker13 on July 03, 2010, 12:21:58 PM
I kinda like it......not enough to buy you understand.   

What I keep thinking is, how would I feel if I were a defendant in a self-defense case and they submitted that gun in evidence as the one I had used?   What would the jury think?
That you were patriotic? If it gets to a jury you are in world of hurt anyway. It should havebeen  no billed by the DA. If they are gunng for you, all you can argue is "I was in fear for my life". The gun shouldn't matter. :-\
FQ13
Title: Re: Another ugly special run gun from Charter - July 4th BBQ gun?
Post by: fullautovalmet76 on July 03, 2010, 12:28:10 PM
How about Charter stop with the special commemoratives  and produce guns they said they were going to produce in the first place, i.e. the 9mm revolver.... ::)
Title: Re: Another ugly special run gun from Charter - July 4th BBQ gun?
Post by: CJS3 on July 03, 2010, 02:14:14 PM
How about Charter stop with the special commemoratives  and produce guns they said they were going to produce in the first place, i.e. the 9mm revolver.... ::)

+1 Waiting on the 45ACP myself.
Title: Re: Another ugly special run gun from Charter - July 4th BBQ gun?
Post by: twyacht on July 03, 2010, 02:46:00 PM
Uh, no... :P

Kinda like the loser that ruins a perfectly good car by "customizing" it, turning it into a hideous POS.
Title: Re: Another ugly special run gun from Charter - July 4th BBQ gun?
Post by: fightingquaker13 on July 03, 2010, 03:14:55 PM
How about Charter stop with the special commemoratives  and produce guns they said they were going to produce in the first place, i.e. the 9mm revolver.... ::)
Ruger did that with their Blackhawk. It worked ok. Still, survey said, why? It doesn't do anything .38 wouldn't and didn't require an extra cylinder for.
FQ13
Title: Re: Another ugly special run gun from Charter - July 4th BBQ gun?
Post by: Walter45Auto on July 04, 2010, 02:11:46 AM
+1 Waiting on the 45ACP myself.

Big +1 on that.
Title: Re: Another ugly special run gun from Charter - July 4th BBQ gun?
Post by: Lawrence Keeney on July 04, 2010, 05:16:59 PM
I kind of like the tiger stripe 44 bulldog
Title: Re: Another ugly special run gun from Charter - July 4th BBQ gun?
Post by: blackwolfe on July 04, 2010, 09:00:27 PM
Ruger did that with their Blackhawk. It worked ok. Still, survey said, why? It doesn't do anything .38 wouldn't and didn't require an extra cylinder for.
FQ13

Quaker.  If it has a swing out cylinder and uses moon clips you have one of the fastest reloads available.  9mm is usually readily available and cheap.  Great selection of self defence round available and no feed problems.  In the past Ruger has chambered the Speed Six and I believe the SP 101 in 9mm.  Just try to find a used one, let alone at a reasonable price.  Smith also has, I think it was the 940 and they may even be producing a 9mm revolver currently.
Title: Re: Another ugly special run gun from Charter - July 4th BBQ gun?
Post by: MikeBjerum on July 04, 2010, 09:48:52 PM
It is time to trash the marketing department and for them to read the philosophy of William Ruger!

It isn't about flash and market research.  It is all about building a good, accurate and reliable gun!  If your board can't sit around a table and come up with that you need a new board.  If your board sits around the table and comes up with a red and blue paint scheme that looks like a brush cleaning exercise you need a new board.
Title: Re: Another ugly special run gun from Charter - July 4th BBQ gun?
Post by: tombogan03884 on July 04, 2010, 11:52:04 PM
It is time to trash the marketing department and for them to read the philosophy of William Ruger!

It isn't about flash and market research. It is all about building a good, accurate and reliable gun!  If your board can't sit around a table and come up with that you need a new board.  If your board sits around the table and comes up with a red and blue paint scheme that looks like a brush cleaning exercise you need a new board.

 Did you some how miss the last election ?
It is indeed all about image , Perception is everything, substance is what you abuse.
Title: Re: Another ugly special run gun from Charter - July 4th BBQ gun?
Post by: Walter45Auto on July 05, 2010, 12:48:31 AM
I kind of like the tiger stripe 44 bulldog

I would like that one if the colors weren't Black on OD green. The 2 colors just don't look good together in that pattern.
Title: Re: Another ugly special run gun from Charter - July 4th BBQ gun?
Post by: ericire12 on July 05, 2010, 01:02:50 PM
It is time to trash the marketing department and for them to read the philosophy of William Ruger!

It isn't about flash and market research.  It is all about building a good, accurate and reliable gun!  If your board can't sit around a table and come up with that you need a new board.  If your board sits around the table and comes up with a red and blue paint scheme that looks like a brush cleaning exercise you need a new board.

I will respectfully disagree...

I think Charter does put out a good, accurate and reliable gun. Also, as ugly as this thing is (and the other ugly special run guns they've done), I would bet they sell every single one of them. It doesnt take much extra time/money/effort to turn one of their of the assembly line guns into a "Liberty" and I would think there is enough of a market for these limited run guns that it is probably a small money maker for them.