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Member Section => Politics & RKBA => Topic started by: DDMac on February 18, 2008, 12:48:53 PM
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Mid-day news floats Condi Rice as a possible McCain choice for Vice Prez. CBS must like her. Anybody familiar with her 2A position? Mac.
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Now I am depressed. Condi Rice is not a good choice. Ask yourself: IS SHE QUALIFIED TO BE PRESIDENT IF MCCAIN DIES IN OFFICE?
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Now I am depressed. Condi Rice is not a good choice. Ask yourself: IS SHE QUALIFIED TO BE PRESIDENT IF MCCAIN DIES IN OFFICE?
Is Bush qualified? Are any of them qualified? I really DO have reservations about Rice, though. First off, she's never been elected to anything that I know of (that may actually be a PLUS for her!). She has been Bush's Foreign Policy advisor since day one and look where that's gotten us.
On the other hand- you never know who can do the job 'till the boots hit the ground.
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Remember a few years ago she came out in favor of individual gun rights. She recalled growing up in segregated south. Think this was in American Rifleman.
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I will be voting tomorrow! I still don't know what the hell ??? I'm going to do with my vote.
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Is Bush qualified? Are any of them qualified? I really DO have reservations about Rice, though. First off, she's never been elected to anything that I know of
Exactly. This current crop makes my skin crawl. Has it come to the point where no one worth a darn wants the job?
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Has it come to the point where no one worth a darn wants the job?
Yes.
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We should use a volunteer military and draft qualified people to manage the country (Regardless of what THEY think they are NOT our leaders, they are our REPRESENTATIVES, servants of the PEOPLE, If you represented your employer the way they represent us you would be out on your ear !) The kind of ego maniacs who actively seek these elective offices are no different than school shooters, they just find a different outlet for their lust for publicity.
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Is Bush qualified? Are any of them qualified? I really DO have reservations about Rice, though. First off, she's never been elected to anything that I know of (that may actually be a PLUS for her!). She has been Bush's Foreign Policy advisor since day one and look where that's gotten us.
On the other hand- you never know who can do the job 'till the boots hit the ground.
Who was the last one that was "qualified" in your opinions and how did he do?? Not to be a smarty pants but it's really all subjective. I can't think of anyone who really was able to get both domestic and foreign right off the get go.
I also don't think Condi is interested. She showed no interest previously when she was mentioned as a possible POTUS candidate. These last 8 years have been pretty tough for her.
I think the VEEP is going to be someone who is youngish (45-early 60's) and can appeal to conserv's and independents. When I find that person I'll let all of you know :D
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Now I am depressed. Condi Rice is not a good choice. Ask yourself: IS SHE QUALIFIED TO BE PRESIDENT IF MCCAIN DIES IN OFFICE?
She is a HELL of a lot more qualified than either Clinton or Obama! In fact, I'd vote for Condi over McCain without a moment's hesitation. She is very strong on the 2nd Amendment, telling about her father who defended the family from Klan attacks during the 50's with a gun.
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She is a HELL of a lot more qualified than either Clinton or Obama! In fact, I'd vote for Condi over McCain without a moment's hesitation. She is very strong on the 2nd Amendment, telling about her father who defended the family from Klan attacks during the 50's with a gun.
Say what you will .But for reasons I can't really explain. I trust Condi a whole lot more than McCain. Thats just my opinion so don't burn me on this one. Maybe its the way she handles herself.
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She is a HELL of a lot more qualified than either Clinton or Obama! In fact, I'd vote for Condi over McCain without a moment's hesitation. She is very strong on the 2nd Amendment, telling about her father who defended the family from Klan attacks during the 50's with a gun.
I'll second THAT nomination ! Wisconsin, I don't think you need to worry about getting burned, not at all :D
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Condi would be the best out of what we have "left"
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Exactly what are her qualifications? She has never been accountable to the american people and only held appointed positions carrying out administration policy. I checked her resume and she has either been an academic or advisor her whole career.
She's probably a fine person, but what are her management skills?
I don't know about this one.
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If any of them had any management skills we wouldn't be in this S*%t hole mess we're in now with Iraq, gas prices, economy, etc. >:(
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I'd get behind a McCain/Condi ticket, although I believe she's already said she wouldn't take a VP slot...she has great Second Amendment credentials...
mb
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I have heard absolutely nothing since the initial speculation about Rice. Perhaps she "just said, NO!' Her main asset, beyond intellectual accomplishment, and dealing regularly with peace initiatives between people who pray for the other's violent demise, is simply that no one owns her. Now, wouldn't that put the curl on your Frosty! Someone who would be true to conservative ideals without the baggage of political debt. Wow!
Mac.
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As you may remember, Rice talked about the 2nd amendment in an interview with Larry King Aired May 11, 2005.
Here's a transcript:
KING: We have a Second Amendment. People can own guns. By the way, what do you think about gun control?
RICE: The way I come out of my own personal experience, in which in Birmingham, Alabama, my father and his friends defended our community in 1962 and 1963 against White Knight Riders by going to the head of the community, the head of the cul-de-sac, and sitting there, armed. And so I'm very concerned about any abridgement of the Second Amendment.
I'll tell you that I know that if Bull Conner had had lists of -- of registered weapons, I don't think my father and his friends would have been sitting at the head of the community, defending the community.
KING: So you would not change the Second Amendment? You would not...
RICE: I also don't think we get to pick and choose from the Constitution. The Second Amendment is as important as the First Amendment.
KING: But doesn't having the guns, while it's protection, also leads to people killing people?
RICE: Well, obviously, the sources of violence are many, and we need to -- to get at the source of the violence. Obviously, I'm very much in favor of things like background checks, and you know, controlling it at gun shows. And there are lots of things we can do.
But we have to be very careful when we start abridging rights that our Founding Fathers thought very important. On this one, I think that they understood that there might be circumstances that people like my father experienced in Birmingham, Alabama, when in fact, the police weren't going to protect you.
KING: Did you see him take the gun?
RICE: Oh, absolutely. Every -- every night he and his -- he and his friends kind of organized a little brigade.
KING: How old were you?
RICE: I was 8. Eight years old.
KING: You remember that?
RICE: I remember it very, very well.
KING: Did you understand it? And 8-year-old? Why?
RICE: I -- I understood that something was deeply wrong in Birmingham, Alabama. When I didn't have a white classmate until we moved to Denver, Colorado. I knew that these were separate societies. Our parents -- I grew up in a very nice, sheltered little middle class community in Birmingham. My mother was a schoolteacher, and my father was a minister and a high school guidance counselor. And I'm still friends with a lot of the kids from that community.
And we recognized that we had very special circumstances. Our parents told us. All right. Maybe that you can't have a hamburger at the Woolworth's lunch counter. And it may be that you can't go to this amusement park, Kiddieland. But don't worry. You could do anything you want. Your horizons should be limitless in America. And we believed it.
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Two observations...
Maybe she's not so bad after all.
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Larry King is STILL a horse's ass.
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Sounds as if she would support "closing the gun show loophole" the way I read the transcript.
How is JC Watts on the 2A? or Michael Steele?
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I truly do respect most if not all the opinions on this subject and I don't want to get into a pi##ing contest with anyone here.But my take on political qualification is this. Since my voting started in the Nixon era I've come to believe one thing about those political candidates that yell the loudest about their qualifications in an election year. They are are of the same club, same BS, same empty promises. It like when you bought your first car and you dealt with that salesman. Now fast forward to 2008 or so. Ever notice the sales pitch never changed. Same with politicans same line of crap, just a new generation listening to it. Maybe it is time for some one with less qualifications and more insight into what this country needs. All I know is I'm getting tired of being lied too. As I said I'm not here to offend anyone on this forum.
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Saying your sick of being lied to and that all politicians are full of crap won't offend any of us. Saying we need to elect people with fewer "qualifications" and more common sense will get total agreement from everyone on THIS site.
And if you DO offend someone here, oh well, they will probably say something that offends you at some point,so it's still all good. I know I've POed a couple people on here in one thread then agreed with them or swapped information with them in other threads. :D
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King might be a horses ass, but he sure asks the right questions...And I loved hearing someone that close to the top giving that kind of answer. I'm in her corner all the way :)