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Title: Official: Obama, Mexican president reach trucking agreement
Post by: Hazcat on March 03, 2011, 01:59:25 PM
WASHINGTON (AP) — President Barack Obama and Mexican President Felipe Calderon on Thursday will announce a plan to open up U.S. highways to Mexican trucks, removing a longstanding roadblock to improved relations between the North American allies.

An Obama administration official said the two leaders have agreed to a phased-in plan that would authorize both Mexican and U.S. long-haul carriers to engage in cross-border operations, provided that the Mexican trucks meet U.S. safety standards. Both countries were given this authority under the 1994 North American Free Trade Agreement, but the U.S. has refused to allow Mexican trucks access amid concerns over its ability to meet America’s stringent safety and environmental standards.

Mexico has placed higher tariffs on dozens of U.S. products in response to the unresolved dispute. The official said Mexico will agree to lift those tariffs in phases, with all tariffs lifted once the first Mexican carrier receives authorization to travel on U.S. roads.

Negotiating teams are still working out final details of the plan, and are expected to send an agreement to Congress this spring, said the official, who spoke on the condition of anonymity in order to discuss the plan ahead of Obama’s public statement.

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http://www.courierpress.com/news/2011/mar/03/official-obama-mexican-president-reach-trucking-ag/

This should be the final nail in US trucking!  Now companies will ship into Mex at very low cost and pay 1/2 price for trucking!  Any one know if that 'Trans Texas Hwy" still being pushed?
Title: Re: Official: Obama, Mexican president reach trucking agreement
Post by: jaybet on March 03, 2011, 02:04:54 PM
Unbelievable.
Title: Re: Official: Obama, Mexican president reach trucking agreement
Post by: TAB on March 03, 2011, 02:27:36 PM
if you think things are bad now, just wait.

f....k dumb ass
Title: Re: Official: Obama, Mexican president reach trucking agreement
Post by: Ichiban on March 03, 2011, 02:38:20 PM
Almost every day I think "Wow!  How's he going to top that stupidity?"
And yet, he always seems to find a way.   :'(
Title: Re: Official: Obama, Mexican president reach trucking agreement
Post by: fightingquaker13 on March 03, 2011, 02:54:27 PM
Anyone else regretting mocking Ross Perot? A giant sucking sound indeed. :P
FQ13
Title: Re: Official: Obama, Mexican president reach trucking agreement
Post by: Hazcat on March 03, 2011, 03:25:35 PM
As I said this will affect not only trucking but port traffic as well.  Ports and longshoremen in Mex cost a whole lot less.  The unions MUST be infuriated at this.  I HOPE they finally realize what they shoved down our throats with Obummer.
Title: Re: Official: Obama, Mexican president reach trucking agreement
Post by: JC5123 on March 03, 2011, 04:13:30 PM
As I said this will affect not only trucking but port traffic as well.  Ports and longshoremen in Mex cost a whole lot less.  The unions MUST be infuriated at this.  I HOPE they finally realize what they shoved down our throats with Obummer.

That's what really blows my mind about this! He is so beholden to the unions, and he turns around and does something like this? Isn't this like slitting your own throat? And after all his grandstanding with the Wisconsin union fiasco.

Almost every day I think "Wow!  How's he going to top that stupidity?"
And yet, he always seems to find a way.   :'(

I couldn't have said it better myself.
Title: Re: Official: Obama, Mexican president reach trucking agreement
Post by: tombogan03884 on March 03, 2011, 04:23:23 PM
Anyone else regretting mocking Ross Perot? A giant sucking sound indeed. :P
FQ13

No, because thinking people didn't mock RP. Only the "intellectual" socialist elite did that. The same self righteous assholes that voted for BO despite the fact he had never actually held a job, produced anything, or completed anything and surrounded himself with party hacks, communists, socialists, racists, terrorists, and other criminals.
Title: Re: Official: Obama, Mexican president reach trucking agreement
Post by: Hazcat on March 03, 2011, 04:39:30 PM
No, because thinking people didn't mock RP. Only the "intellectual" socialist elite did that. The same self righteous assholes that voted for BO despite the fact he had never actually held a job, produced anything, or completed anything and surrounded himself with party hacks, communists, socialists, racists, terrorists, and other criminals.

+1!  White liberal guilt elected this disaster!
Title: Re: Official: Obama, Mexican president reach trucking agreement
Post by: JC5123 on March 03, 2011, 05:08:29 PM
+1!  White liberal guilt elected this disaster!

No it was the college students who voted in record numbers in the 2008 election. If you look at demographics they were almost non existent in the 2010 cycle.
Title: Re: Official: Obama, Mexican president reach trucking agreement
Post by: fightingquaker13 on March 03, 2011, 05:09:27 PM
+1!  White liberal guilt elected this disaster!
Due respect Gentlemen, but it sure as hell wasn't white liberal guilt that elected W, NAFTA's number one fan, even when he was governor of Texas. This was a bipartisan screwup. Don't finger point now, or else start bashing Bush with me, your call.
FQ13
Title: Re: Official: Obama, Mexican president reach trucking agreement
Post by: JC5123 on March 03, 2011, 05:31:46 PM
How did you make that leap?

Haz is right, liberal white guilt is exactly what this regime has played on since it's inception. It has nothing to do with Bush, and never did. This is about people voting for BHO for no other reason than they were afraid to be called a racist if they didn't.

You do have to admit that MOST rep. voters are far better informed on candidates and issues than MOST dems. This is why the regime sought to demonize any who opposed BHO on agenda by calling them a racist.
Title: Re: Official: Obama, Mexican president reach trucking agreement
Post by: Hazcat on March 03, 2011, 05:56:52 PM
Due respect Gentlemen, but it sure as hell wasn't white liberal guilt that elected W, NAFTA's number one fan, even when he was governor of Texas. This was a bipartisan screwup. Don't finger point now, or else start bashing Bush with me, your call.
FQ13

Clinton pushed and signed NAFTA
Title: Re: Official: Obama, Mexican president reach trucking agreement
Post by: fightingquaker13 on March 03, 2011, 06:28:52 PM
Gentlemen, lets leave ideology at the door, the record is clear. W., as Tx Governor was head cheerleader for Nafta (GHWB and Clinton as well, as I said, ideology aside). Its not about belief, its about money for the GOP who get funded by the Chamber of Comerce, and about racial votes on the part of the Dems who want the latinos sewed up just as tight as they have the blacks sewed up. I'm just calling a spade a spade. W denounced prop 187 in California and announced Texas was open for business with Mexico. He could have rolled back NAFTA, but he didn't. Clinton did it for votes, W did it for money, and both parties sell us out. If that offends, too bad, because its the damned truth. Ross was right and I was wrong. Free trade is not always the best answer. :-[
FQ13
Title: Re: Official: Obama, Mexican president reach trucking agreement
Post by: Pathfinder on March 03, 2011, 06:29:14 PM
Be nice to FQ, he's an edumacator and can't help himself when he gets his facts (and spellings) wrong.   ;)

Besides, we have been sold out by every president since JFK, and a lot of them before that, such as Woody Wilson and FDR.
Title: Re: Official: Obama, Mexican president reach trucking agreement
Post by: fullautovalmet76 on March 03, 2011, 08:26:05 PM
That's what really blows my mind about this! He is so beholden to the unions, and he turns around and does something like this? Isn't this like slitting your own throat? And after all his grandstanding with the Wisconsin union fiasco.

I don't know for sure but it would not surprise me if these Mexican unions are completely or partly controlled by Big Labor here in the U.S.....So it would be the national and international leaders of these unions in the states that would be selling their members out....
Title: Re: Official: Obama, Mexican president reach trucking agreement
Post by: tombogan03884 on March 03, 2011, 08:37:00 PM
Our resident Academic socialist Elitist speaks !
Inaccurately, as usual.
Title: Re: Official: Obama, Mexican president reach trucking agreement
Post by: Ulmus on March 03, 2011, 08:38:39 PM
I have to agree with FQ on this one.  Remember all those stories by Lou Dobbs on CNN bashing President George W. Bush and the "American Union" project.

One step closer now.  :(
Title: Re: Official: Obama, Mexican president reach trucking agreement
Post by: fightingquaker13 on March 03, 2011, 08:57:37 PM
Mexican "Unions" are a whole other subject. Mexico under the PRI (the ruling party for decades) were a bought and paid for part of the government. Any independent labor leader got a choice of "plato o plomo" (silver or lead). In the '90s and beyond, post PRI, who knows what Mexican unions want? I have no idea if they are truly independent or not, just don't compare them too closey to the American model as the former government owned them, not the other way aroud.
FQ13
Title: Re: Official: Obama, Mexican president reach trucking agreement
Post by: MikeBjerum on March 03, 2011, 09:33:04 PM
It doesn't matter who pushed for, allowed or signed accords like NAFTA.  NAFTA and many other acts like it are in direct response to the demands of 90% of us dumbshits that don't care about our neighbors and are to short sighted to realize it will all come back to bite us.  It is the answer to the 90% that worship the WalMart model of cheap cheap cheap at all costs.

It is the same mentality that demands cheap China made crap, that screams when we find out that China abuses its citizens, pollutes and ships us poison that we have banned in products and toys generations ago, but goes right back to WalMart to save another dime on the same crap.

The citizens of the United States have demanded this, our leaders from both sides have given it to us, and now we are crying because we can't find jobs and are losing more every day.  Sometimes we are so busy looking over our shoulder before we bend over in the shower that we forget our biggest fear is right in the mirror.
Title: Re: Official: Obama, Mexican president reach trucking agreement
Post by: Ulmus on March 04, 2011, 08:29:58 PM
M58:  Truer words were never said.  I totally agree with you.
Title: Re: Official: Obama, Mexican president reach trucking agreement
Post by: ronlarimer on March 05, 2011, 07:00:36 AM
No it was the college students who voted in record numbers in the 2008 election. If you look at demographics they were almost non existent in the 2010 cycle.

I think you two actually agree.
Title: Re: Official: Obama, Mexican president reach trucking agreement
Post by: Hazcat on March 05, 2011, 07:02:58 AM
I think you two actually agree.

If'n yer talkin bout me (guilty white liberals) and JCs 'college kids' I agree that there is a LARGE overlap.
Title: Re: Official: Obama, Mexican president reach trucking agreement
Post by: tombogan03884 on March 05, 2011, 12:32:55 PM
If'n yer talkin bout me (guilty white liberals) and JCs 'college kids' I agree that there is a LARGE overlap.

There is also a statistical history of guilty white college liberals turning out in force for Presidential elections but ignoring off year elections.