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Title: Huckabee says NO to PotUS Bid in 2012
Post by: PegLeg45 on May 16, 2011, 06:39:33 PM


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Mike Huckabee rules out a 2012 presidential run

Mike Huckabee announced Saturday that he will not run for president in 2012, eliminating one of the key frontrunners in the GOP nomination race.

"All the factors say go, but my heart says no," the former Arkansas governor declared during the final segment of his weekly Fox News show.

His statement comes after months of speculation about his political future--and Huckabee, who has always enjoyed a little political drama, played up the suspense until the final moments.

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Speaking to viewers in the final minutes of his show, Huckabee pointed to polls showing him as a frontrunner in the 2012 race. He said his family was on board for another presidential run and said he believed he would be able to raise the money necessary for a White House bid.

But Huckabee admitted his heart just wasn't in it.

"My answer is clear and firm," Huckabee declared. "I will not seek the Republican nomination for president this year. I'm going to continue doing what I do."

Huckabee's decision leaves a gaping hole in what was already a slow-moving GOP primary. The former governor had been the top choice for many social conservatives in the race, and it's unclear to whom that voting base will turn.

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Title: Re: Huckabee says NO to PotUS Bid in 2012
Post by: fightingquaker13 on May 16, 2011, 06:46:06 PM
Draft Rush? Limbaugh-Coulter 2012 (I mean hell, they live down the street from each other). ;D ;D ;D
FQ13 who is yes, a very bad person ;)
Title: Re: Huckabee says NO to PotUS Bid in 2012
Post by: tombogan03884 on May 17, 2011, 12:56:58 AM
FTA:
"Huckabee's decision leaves a gaping hole in what was already a slow-moving GOP primary. The former governor had been the top choice for many social conservatives in the race, and it's unclear to whom that voting base will turn."

Who cares where the F*cking Idiot vote goes ?

Huckabee is, like Romney, a retread loser who could not even beat a shmuck like McCain.
At least Huckabee seems to realize it, some one needs to put a bug in RINO Romney's ear, then we would have a good field of Candidates.
Trump dropped out because there is not much to chose between Bachman, Santorum, Cain, or Pawlenty.
Any one of them would be good choices, and all 4 of them need to beat the Republican leadership before they can get a fair shot at the Dems.
Title: Re: Huckabee says NO to PotUS Bid in 2012
Post by: fightingquaker13 on May 17, 2011, 01:06:55 AM
FTA:
"Huckabee's decision leaves a gaping hole in what was already a slow-moving GOP primary. The former governor had been the top choice for many social conservatives in the race, and it's unclear to whom that voting base will turn."

Who cares where the F*cking Idiot vote goes ?

Huckabee is, like Romney, a retread loser who could not even beat a shmuck like McCain.
At least Huckabee seems to realize it, some one needs to put a bug in RINO Romney's ear, then we would have a good field of Candidates.
Trump dropped out because there is not much to chose between Bachman, Santorum, Cain, or Pawlenty.
Any one of them would be good choices, and all 4 of them need to beat the Republican leadership before they can get a fair shot at the Dems.

Actually there is a lot to choose from among the four.
Bachman is an idiot. Santorum is theocrat. He may be a conservative, but he has zero respect for small government, and wants big brother in your bedroom. Cain and Pawlenty are both interesting. Cain is a bit of a flake, but I like what he says and he has solid real world credentials. No smoke and mirrors like Trump, just a real honest business. Pawlenty has some good credentials and decent ideas. Those two I would like to hear more from.
FQ13
Title: Re: Huckabee says NO to PotUS Bid in 2012
Post by: tombogan03884 on May 17, 2011, 01:18:43 AM
Well, that narrows it down for me. If an azzhole like FQ hates Bachman that's who gets my vote.

Just goes to show what hypocrites these liberals are, they make a big deal about "Women's rights" when it serves their divisive purposes, but put up a woman candidate and their true sexist nature is revealed to the world.
FQ says a former 2 term Mayor, who actually held a JOB as a weather forecaster, and was elected Gov. of her State doesn't have enough experience, so he voted for a guy who served 1 term in the state senate and never held a job.
He wouldn't even vote for Hillary.
Title: Re: Huckabee says NO to PotUS Bid in 2012
Post by: fightingquaker13 on May 17, 2011, 01:26:41 AM
Well, that narrows it down for me. If an azzhole like FQ hates Bachman that's who gets my vote.

Just goes to show what hypocrites these liberals are, they make a big deal about "Women's rights" when it serves their divisive purposes, but put up a woman candidate and their true sexist nature is revealed to the world.
FQ says a former 2 term Mayor, who actually held a JOB as a weather forecaster, and was elected Gov. of her State doesn't have enough experience, so he voted for a guy who served 1 term in the state senate and never held a job.
He wouldn't even vote for Hillary.
Right, I'm anti-feminist because I didn't want the Clinton circus part II? You've got me dead to rights Tom. ::)
FQ13
Title: Re: Huckabee says NO to PotUS Bid in 2012
Post by: TAB on May 17, 2011, 02:01:54 AM
I think rommie would have gotton more votes then McCain did.

the "hard core" right and left are always going to vote which ever way they lean.  its those in the middle where elections are won and lost.
Title: Re: Huckabee says NO to PotUS Bid in 2012
Post by: mortdooley on May 17, 2011, 08:04:56 AM
 The voting public want to be sold on a candidate and depending on political slant may stay home rather then go to the polls if no one impresses them. I now believe Huckabee has more brains then ego, he would not beat BO with all the obstacles the liberals would bring to bear. Fox has made him a rich man and it would be ungrateful of him to leave and expect to return if he isn't elected.
Title: Re: Huckabee says NO to PotUS Bid in 2012
Post by: fightingquaker13 on May 17, 2011, 08:16:15 AM
The voting public want to be sold on a candidate and depending on political slant may stay home rather then go to the polls if no one impresses them. I now believe Huckabee has more brains then ego, he would not beat BO with all the obstacles the liberals would bring to bear. Fox has made him a rich man and it would be ungrateful of him to leave and expect to return if he isn't elected.
Plus you've got ask yourself this. Who puts themselves through that nightmare twice unless they really think they can win? I've worked campaigns and its hunded hour weeks, insane travel, kissing ass to donors, smiling for the cameras, giving the same speech for the thousandth time ("Hello Tampa..er, I mean Orlando!) and the list goes on. You have to either think you can win, seriously elevate the debate, or be a media whore to even think about doing it once, let alone twice. Good for Huckabee. The fact that he was sane enough not to run is oddly enough a reason to vote for him. ;D
FQ13
Title: Re: Huckabee says NO to PotUS Bid in 2012
Post by: 2HOW on May 17, 2011, 09:03:23 AM
Herman Cain may have a shot, at least the donald got out, I dont think Gingrich has a chance. lets just hope some jerk wont pull votes from a good candidate like Perot did.
Title: Re: Huckabee says NO to PotUS Bid in 2012
Post by: fightingquaker13 on May 17, 2011, 09:25:25 AM
Herman Cain may have a shot, at least the donald got out, I dont think Gingrich has a chance. lets just hope some jerk wont pull votes from a good candidate like Perot did.
He really is interesting as is Pawlenty. Bachman, Santorum and Romney are non-starters. Newt, well, he's a smart guy but his own worst enemy. It really is sad in that BO is vulnerable as hell, all it should take is a good candidate. Someone who can rally the base and appeal to the middle who are tired of BO. Sadly, it seems that the GOP bench isn't that deep. What is up with that?
FQ13
Title: Re: Huckabee says NO to PotUS Bid in 2012
Post by: jaybet on May 17, 2011, 09:27:34 AM
I'd love for the front runner to be Herman Cain so when the media and left jump him we can call them bigots and racists.
Title: Re: Huckabee says NO to PotUS Bid in 2012
Post by: tombogan03884 on May 17, 2011, 11:17:12 AM
Right, I'm anti-feminist because I didn't want the Clinton circus part II? You've got me dead to rights Tom. ::)
FQ13

So why do you hate Palin, and Bachman as well ?
And don't try your usual liberal BS about "She didn't have enough experience for VP", she had far more experience than the communist you helped put in the top spot.
Title: Re: Huckabee says NO to PotUS Bid in 2012
Post by: fightingquaker13 on May 17, 2011, 11:21:55 AM
So why do you hate Palin, and Bachman as well ?
I disagree with them and find them both to be somewhat lacking in brains and intellectual curiosity, as well as knowledge of history and economics? I don't like Pelosi, McCarthy, Boxer or Fiengold either. Plus, I'm less than impressed with Janet From Another Planet.  I must be a sexist. ;D
FQ13
Title: Re: Huckabee says NO to PotUS Bid in 2012
Post by: Solus on May 17, 2011, 11:44:52 AM
I disagree with them and find them both to be somewhat lacking in brains and intellectual curiosity, as well as knowledge of history and economics? I don't like Pelosi, McCarthy, Boxer or Fiengold either. Plus, I'm less than impressed with Janet From Another Planet.  I must be a sexist. ;D
FQ13

So, how has voting for brains, intellectual curiosity, knowledge of history and economics plus hope and change worked out for you?

Title: Re: Huckabee says NO to PotUS Bid in 2012
Post by: fightingquaker13 on May 17, 2011, 11:48:31 AM
So, how has voting for brains, intellectual curiosity, knowledge of history and economics plus hope and change worked out for you?


Well, given that I'm looking seriously at the GOP field, I'll let you figure it out. :P
FQ13 who knows who I WON't be voting for in 2012
Title: Re: Huckabee says NO to PotUS Bid in 2012
Post by: Herknav on May 18, 2011, 05:01:28 AM
Herman Cain may have a shot, at least the donald got out, I dont think Gingrich has a chance. lets just hope some jerk wont pull votes from a good candidate like Perot did.

I hope Gingrich doesn't have a chance.  Bush lost that election all by himself.  Even if you assume that Bush would've gotten all of the Perot votes (a big stretch), it wouldn't have filled the electoral crater made by all the votes bush lost between '88 and '92.
Title: Re: Huckabee says NO to PotUS Bid in 2012
Post by: crusader rabbit on May 18, 2011, 08:11:06 AM
Huckabee is, like Romney, a retread loser who could not even beat a shmuck like McCain.
At least Huckabee seems to realize it, some one needs to put a bug in RINO Romney's ear, then we would have a good field of Candidates.
Trump dropped out because there is not much to chose between Bachman, Santorum, Cain, or Pawlenty.
Any one of them would be good choices, and all 4 of them would need to beat the Republican leadership before they can get a fair shot at the Dems.

+1 on that first statement, Tom. 
And another +1 on the final line.

I'm still liking Cain, and Col. West is looking more like a candidate.  Bachman will announce this weekend.  Huntsman is a dildo (or is that RINO?) and Pawlenty has all the charisma of a dust bunny.  Gingrich has too much moral baggage to win the "Christian Right" vote (and he's got some stupid ideas about a mandate for healthcare that scares me).  Sheesh...

I still don't see a formidable candidate on my side of the line.  And I continue to see a multitude of real idiot voters on the other side--some still thinking their bundle of Obama Bucks must have been lost in the mail.
Title: Re: Huckabee says NO to PotUS Bid in 2012
Post by: tt11758 on May 18, 2011, 08:15:39 AM
The entire Republican debacle kinda makes Tom and I look more electable, doesn't it?  ;D
Title: Re: Huckabee says NO to PotUS Bid in 2012
Post by: tombogan03884 on May 18, 2011, 08:37:56 AM
The entire Republican debacle kinda makes Tom and I look more electable, doesn't it?  ;D

After the clusterf*ck created by the intellectuals and lawyers maybe a couple working class guys are needed.
Title: Re: Huckabee says NO to PotUS Bid in 2012
Post by: fullautovalmet76 on May 18, 2011, 05:52:21 PM
Ron Paul is still the answer......  8) If he decides to run as a third party candidate, I'll vote for him there too but I don't expect him to do that.
Title: Re: Huckabee says NO to PotUS Bid in 2012
Post by: tombogan03884 on May 18, 2011, 07:44:36 PM
Ron Paul is another retread loser who couldn't even beat McCain.
On top of that most of his idea's are stupid crap that only appeals to shallow thinkers.
Full auto doesn't expect him to run as a third party candidate though, Why not ? That's exactly what he did last time.
Title: Re: Huckabee says NO to PotUS Bid in 2012
Post by: fullautovalmet76 on May 18, 2011, 08:15:30 PM
Ron Paul is another retread loser who couldn't even beat McCain.
On top of that most of his idea's are stupid crap that only appeals to shallow thinkers.
Full auto doesn't expect him to run as a third party candidate though, Why not ? That's exactly what he did last time.

I have to say the part about shallow thinkers is hilarious!

I believe Ron Paul ran as a Libertarian in 1988.  ::)
Title: Re: Huckabee says NO to PotUS Bid in 2012
Post by: tombogan03884 on May 18, 2011, 10:36:11 PM
Well, lets see, Go back on the Gold standard ? There isn't enough gold and Silver in existence to cover the amount of currency currently in US circulation, 5 minutes of simple math will show that.
Isolationism ? when half our raw materials come from other countries ? That's a real bright idea.
He wanted to try Bin Laden, not kill him ? Any one with half a brain saw how that worked with Khalid Sheik Mohammad .
Like I said, Ron Paul and his followers are idiots.
Title: Re: Huckabee says NO to PotUS Bid in 2012
Post by: Solus on May 19, 2011, 09:44:23 AM
Well, lets see, Go back on the Gold standard ? There isn't enough gold and Silver in existence to cover the amount of currency currently in US circulation, 5 minutes of simple math will show that.
Isolationism ? when half our raw materials come from other countries ? That's a real bright idea.
He wanted to try Bin Laden, not kill him ? Any one with half a brain saw how that worked with Khalid Sheik Mohammad .
Like I said, Ron Paul and his followers are idiots.

Of the faults you have listed, Ron Paul's biggest is his view on Bin Laden.  He lost sight of the objective which was to kill the bastard and not bring him to justice for the whole world to see.  Had he been president, and followed that thinking, Bin Laden might still be wasting oxygen.

The gold standard.   While there is not enough gold to to do the job due to the great number of US Dollars in circulation, lack of a standard, gold or otherwise, is a strong contributor to that problem.  While the gold standard might not be a workable solution, at least Ron Paul has the problem as a priority and is looking for a solution.  As president, he would come to that realization,  even if only after the accountants showed him the adding machine tape, and would work towards an alternative solution to the problem.

Isolationism is a matter of degree.  At one extreme we might have closing our borders, all our embassies, bringing all troops and diplomats home, circling the wagons and making due with what we have from sea to shining sea.

At the other extreme, total non-isolationism, we might have a plan for total world conquest where we no one every has to press a button for English cause there is no other option.

A president, no matter which one of these  he might subscribe to, will never be able to achieve either of those objectives.

However, something like pulling all American troops home except for those needed for defense of American Real Estate, and here would be included military bases we have acquired through treaty, like Gitmo, and should  have kept like the Panama Canal Zone, that are necessary for us to field a strong military presence should it be needed. 

Stopping all foreign aid, unless in payment under contract for something of equal value like those military bases.

Establishing as many foreign embassies as we feel we need and where we can to allow us to affect foreign relations through economic means.   

Ron Paul would be faced with compromise on his Isolation views.

But them he would bring a whole lot of small government and capitalistic goodness along with him.

If he is 80% right and the other 20% seems like a deal breaker, I'd take him.  Much of that 20% could be compromised into something better and what can't won't fly.

I don't see as much as I like about Ron Paul in any of the other candidates.
Title: Re: Huckabee says NO to PotUS Bid in 2012
Post by: tombogan03884 on May 19, 2011, 12:47:13 PM
The guy has been been running unsuccessfully since 1988.
Can't he take a hint ?
Title: Re: Huckabee says NO to PotUS Bid in 2012
Post by: SCfromNY on May 21, 2011, 10:04:20 AM
We should want a canidate who can:
Excite the moderates
Gets away from the "old Republican" manner and look
Stand a chance with the female vote
Is articulate and speaks well even to a hostile audience

Draft Paul Ryan!