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Member Section => Handguns => Topic started by: BAC on October 04, 2011, 05:12:12 PM
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Cabela's had a sale. The price was not as good as some of the online shops, but I got to pick out the one I wanted and didn't have to pay for shipping. Plus, I got to go to Cabela's!
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Can't wait to give it a go.
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Nice, but where did you find ammo?
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Nice, but where did you find ammo?
They sell it at Cabela's.
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They are supposed to be extremely accurate, but a PITA to reload.
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OK, I'll be the dumb guy. Nagant?
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M1895 Nagant. in 7.62? Seven Shot fixed cylinder? Speed loading takes three hands and 14 fingers, but,.... ::)
Hey they are still being used by Russian Railroad Security to this day.
I too put my first purchase on my C&R,.... another MN 91/30.
Looks in good shape. Let us know how it shoots. Most triggers are bone on bone, and expect a 14-20 pound trigger pull, but it goes bang, and has pretty decent accuracy.
J&G also has good deals on ammo.
Congratulations.
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Is that the one where the cylinder moves forward on firing, causing the brass case to seal off on the throat of the barrel? Bill T.
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Is that the one where the cylinder moves forward on firing, causing the brass case to seal off on the throat of the barrel? Bill T.
It is...increases muzzle velocity according to what I've read. I first thought it was a Webley until TW corrected my thought process.
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That was one of my first C&R purchases also. I bought it back when the pistols were cheaper than the ammo (S&B was the only brand you could find). I shot 32S&W for a while, then I found a 32ACP cylinder for it. I sold it about three years ago for almost five times what I paid for it.
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That was one of my first C&R purchases also. I bought it back when the pistols were cheaper than the ammo (S&B was the only brand you could find). I shot 32S&W for a while, then I found a 32ACP cylinder for it. I sold it about three years ago for almost five times what I paid for it.
I was thinking about getting a .32acp cylinder for it. How did it work?
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It was a beautiful design for its day, as it created the tightest cylinder/frame "seal" for its time. Less gas escaping, at the cylinder gap, kept the most "bang for the Ruble". Muzzle velocity, and accuracy were as good as they were going to get.
Sweden, Norway, Poland, and Greece military and police loved these pistols...
They were also easily "silenced" as the gas seal helped flash and controlled release of propellant. These are of course hard to find and rare...and worth a pretty Ruble...
However, the S&W hand ejectors, came out at the same time, (roughly),...and changed the game with military revolvers.
It came down to the ability to reload quickly. In 1932-33, the Tokarev's came out, and began to phase out the Nagant's.
But it was slow to happen, just like the American 1911, and the S&W .38 Revolver Military Issue, The transition took time to take hold.
Some folks just loved those "wheel guns"... ;D
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I've always liked those ugly ducklings. I should have never passed up buying them at $69 in the early 90's. How much was this one?
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I'm not sure how you used your C&R FFL for this. ??? Did you avoid the background check? I thought a C&R was only beneficial in a mail order transaction.
Brian
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It was a beautiful design for its day, as it created the tightest cylinder/frame "seal" for its time. Less gas escaping, at the cylinder gap, kept the most "bang for the Ruble". Muzzle velocity, and accuracy were as good as they were going to get.
Sweden, Norway, Poland, and Greece military and police loved these pistols...
They were also easily "silenced" as the gas seal helped flash and controlled release of propellant. These are of course hard to find and rare...and worth a pretty Ruble...
However, the S&W hand ejectors, came out at the same time, (roughly),...and changed the game with military revolvers.
It came down to the ability to reload quickly. In 1932-33, the Tokarev's came out, and began to phase out the Nagant's.
But it was slow to happen, just like the American 1911, and the S&W .38 Revolver Military Issue, The transition took time to take hold.
Some folks just loved those "wheel guns"... ;D
Do you mean the 'silenced' ones are rare? That mat well be true but regular ones are easy to find and can be had for $80.
I'm not sure how you used your C&R FFL for this. ??? Did you avoid the background check? I thought a C&R was only beneficial in a mail order transaction.
Brian
Yep you can use them 'face to face'. Saves background checks and places like Cabella's and Midway also give you a discount for being an FFL holder (usually about 10%).
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I'm not sure how you used your C&R FFL for this. ??? Did you avoid the background check? I thought a C&R was only beneficial in a mail order transaction.
Brian
I live in PA, Cabela's is in WV. Normally they would have to ship it to an FFL in PA, but my C&R let me walk out with it (and I got a discount on the ammo).
Did I mention it also came with a nasty-ass holster?
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I live in PA, Cabela's is in WV. Normally they would have to ship it to an FFL in PA, but my C&R let me walk out with it (and I got a discount on the ammo).
Did I mention it also came with a nasty-ass holster?
Yes, it's some POS designed for the Russian version of the "Sam Browne". Even a lot Russians would shit can the holster and go with Mexican carry.
Saw a photo in "Surplus Guns" an Officer and a bunch of Cossacks, they all had at least one , the were sticking out of pockets, stuck in sashes, waist bands etc. The only one using the issue holster was the Officer .
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Even the Tuco carry with a lanyard was preferable to the holster.
The threaded barreled versions of this pistol are much more rare, but a good machinist..... ::)
It really was THAT quiet....
;) AKA,.....Crazy Ivan,...
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Tom, do you know what a "crazy Ivan" really is?
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Tom, do you know what a "crazy Ivan" really is?
Yes, but I give creative kudos to the Ivan that said: " I think this would be great with a threaded barrel and silencer, hold my Vodka,.and watch this"..... ;)
Thick Russian accent, of course....
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It's a maneuver by a Russian sub to throw off any one trying to follow.
It involves a bunch of radical course and depth changes.
(Capt. Marko Ramias Used it in the IGUK gap when he defected with the Krasny Oktobre ;D )
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It's a maneuver by a Russian sub to throw off any one trying to follow.
It involves a bunch of radical course and depth changes.
(Capt. Marko Ramias Used it in the IGUK GIUK gap when he defected with the Krasny Oktobre ;D )
Something I've witness (acoustically) on a hundred occasions. The "I" in GIUK is Iceland where I spent a year chasing Ivans for a living. The others are Greenland and the United Kingdom...
Also called "clearing the baffles", it's actually a 90-180 course change to port or starboard to check for enemy subs that might be following as the sonar equipment is mounted in the bow of the boat. What Tom refers to is called "angles and dangles" which was used to shake a tailing submarine!
Remember Tom, Hunt for Red October is a work of fiction, nothing more! Clancy was not too sure of what he was speaking about at that time. He gained a bit of intel after the publishing of that novel and the following books were better, at least technically!
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I was thinking about getting a .32acp cylinder for it. How did it work?
It was alright. At the time I bought it, it cost more than the pistol. I thought it would enable me to shoot the pistol more often, but the problem wasn't the ammo availability, it's that the 32 (not magnums) is a seriously whimpy cartridge. It just got boring. I hung on to the pistol for several years because I liked the look of the European designed revolvers, and had a collection for a period of time.
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Something I've witness (acoustically) on a hundred occasions. The "I" in GIUK is Iceland where I spent a year chasing Ivans for a living. The others are Greenland and the United Kingdom...
Also called "clearing the baffles", it's actually a 90-180 course change to port or starboard to check for enemy subs that might be following as the sonar equipment is mounted in the bow of the boat. What Tom refers to is called "angles and dangles" which was used to shake a tailing submarine!
Remember Tom, Hunt for Red October is a work of fiction, nothing more! Clancy was not too sure of what he was speaking about at that time. He gained a bit of intel after the publishing of that novel and the following books were better, at least technically!
I'm disgusted with Clancy.
I'm reading his latest "Against All Enemies", he talks about how the drug cartels are getting tons of weapons from the US, there have been some other things that show he doesn't know crap about guns.
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I'm disgusted with Clancy.
I'm reading his latest "Against All Enemies", he talks about how the drug cartels are getting tons of weapons from the US, there have been some other things that show he doesn't know crap about guns.
I haven't read anything of his in ten years or so. I had a first edition signed copy of Red October, I may still have it around here somewhere.
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I haven't read anything of his in ten years or so. I had a first edition signed copy of Red October, I may still have it around here somewhere.
Unfortunately the only book of his I read was "Red Rabbit" a few years ago. It took a long time to slog through that brick. Turned me off to Clancy ever since.
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He's had some really good ones, ( Hunt for Red October, Clear and present Danger, Rainbow Six) but he's had some real duds to, (Red Rabbit ;D )
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From C&R to Clancy. I think we have a bit of.........
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;D
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SOP on the "Short attention span Forum" ;D
Most of the stuff I've read about the Nagant pistol indicated it was a great revolver but the cartridge was so under powered it was good for little other than target shooting or popping dissidents in the back of the head.
Don't tell me "Oh but it must of been great, it went through both world wars", of course it did, it was what they had.
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Now all I need is a Red Army uniform:
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Skip the uniform, just get vodka ;D