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Re: Finally used my C&R FFL today
« Reply #10 on: October 04, 2011, 09:39:47 PM »
It was a beautiful design for its day, as it created the tightest cylinder/frame "seal" for its time. Less gas escaping, at the cylinder gap, kept the most "bang for the Ruble". Muzzle velocity, and accuracy were as good as they were going to get.

Sweden, Norway, Poland, and Greece military and police loved these pistols...

They were also easily "silenced" as the gas seal helped flash and controlled release of propellant. These are of course hard to find and rare...and worth a pretty Ruble...

However, the S&W hand ejectors, came out at the same time, (roughly),...and changed the game with military revolvers.

It came down to the ability to reload quickly. In 1932-33, the Tokarev's came out, and began to phase out the Nagant's.

But it was slow to happen, just like the American 1911, and the S&W .38 Revolver Military Issue, The transition took time to take hold.

Some folks just loved those "wheel guns"... ;D




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Col. Jeff Cooper.

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Re: Finally used my C&R FFL today
« Reply #11 on: October 04, 2011, 09:56:31 PM »
I've always liked those ugly ducklings. I should have never passed up buying them at $69 in the early 90's. How much was this one?

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Re: Finally used my C&R FFL today
« Reply #12 on: October 04, 2011, 10:10:06 PM »
I'm not sure how you used your C&R FFL for this.  ???  Did you avoid the background check? I thought a C&R was only beneficial in a mail order transaction.

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Re: Finally used my C&R FFL today
« Reply #13 on: October 04, 2011, 10:18:09 PM »
It was a beautiful design for its day, as it created the tightest cylinder/frame "seal" for its time. Less gas escaping, at the cylinder gap, kept the most "bang for the Ruble". Muzzle velocity, and accuracy were as good as they were going to get.

Sweden, Norway, Poland, and Greece military and police loved these pistols...

They were also easily "silenced" as the gas seal helped flash and controlled release of propellant. These are of course hard to find and rare...and worth a pretty Ruble...

However, the S&W hand ejectors, came out at the same time, (roughly),...and changed the game with military revolvers.

It came down to the ability to reload quickly. In 1932-33, the Tokarev's came out, and began to phase out the Nagant's.

But it was slow to happen, just like the American 1911, and the S&W .38 Revolver Military Issue, The transition took time to take hold.

Some folks just loved those "wheel guns"... ;D

Do you mean the 'silenced' ones are rare?  That mat well be true but regular ones are easy to find and can be had for $80.

I'm not sure how you used your C&R FFL for this.  ???  Did you avoid the background check? I thought a C&R was only beneficial in a mail order transaction.

Brian

Yep you can use them 'face to face'.  Saves background checks and places like Cabella's and Midway also give you a discount for being an FFL holder (usually about 10%).
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Re: Finally used my C&R FFL today
« Reply #14 on: October 04, 2011, 10:25:48 PM »
I'm not sure how you used your C&R FFL for this.  ???  Did you avoid the background check? I thought a C&R was only beneficial in a mail order transaction.

Brian

I live in PA, Cabela's is in WV.  Normally they would have to ship it to an FFL in PA, but my C&R let me walk out with it (and I got a discount on the ammo).

Did I mention it also came with a nasty-ass holster?

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Re: Finally used my C&R FFL today
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Re: Finally used my C&R FFL today
« Reply #15 on: October 04, 2011, 11:34:07 PM »
I live in PA, Cabela's is in WV.  Normally they would have to ship it to an FFL in PA, but my C&R let me walk out with it (and I got a discount on the ammo).

Did I mention it also came with a nasty-ass holster?

Yes, it's some POS designed for the Russian version of the "Sam Browne". Even a lot Russians would shit can the holster and go with Mexican carry.
Saw a photo in "Surplus Guns" an Officer and a bunch of Cossacks, they all had at least one , the were sticking out of pockets, stuck in sashes, waist bands etc. The only one using the issue holster was the Officer .

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Re: Finally used my C&R FFL today
« Reply #16 on: October 05, 2011, 06:33:28 PM »
Even the Tuco carry with a lanyard was preferable to the holster.

The threaded barreled versions of this pistol are much more rare, but a good machinist..... ::)

It really was THAT quiet....



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Re: Finally used my C&R FFL today
« Reply #17 on: October 05, 2011, 06:36:28 PM »
Tom, do you know what a "crazy Ivan" really is?

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Re: Finally used my C&R FFL today
« Reply #18 on: October 05, 2011, 07:08:44 PM »
Tom, do you know what a "crazy Ivan" really is?

Yes, but I give creative kudos to the Ivan that said: " I think this would be great with a threaded barrel and silencer, hold my Vodka,.and watch this"..... ;)

Thick Russian accent, of course....
Thomas Jefferson: The strongest reason for the people to keep and bear arms is, as a last resort, to protect themselves against the tyranny of government. That is why our masters in Washington are so anxious to disarm us. They are not afraid of criminals. They are afraid of a populace which cannot be subdued by tyrants."
Col. Jeff Cooper.

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Re: Finally used my C&R FFL today
« Reply #19 on: October 05, 2011, 07:42:52 PM »
It's a maneuver by a Russian sub to throw off any one trying to follow.
It involves a bunch of radical course and depth changes.

(Capt. Marko Ramias Used it in the IGUK gap when he defected with the Krasny Oktobre  ;D  )

 

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