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Member Section => Down Range Cafe => Topic started by: sledgemeister on November 09, 2011, 08:37:26 AM
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http://nwsportsmanmag.com/2011/11/08/3-tasmanians-arrested-in-idaho-on-elk-poaching-charges/
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3 Tasmanians Arrested In Idaho On Elk Poaching Charges
By Andy Walgamott, on November 8th, 2011
(IDAHO DEPARTMENT OF FISH AND GAME PRESS RELEASE)
More info from the Idaho Statesman:
Idaho Fish & Game spokesman Evin Oneale said the men have been suspected of hunting-related crimes for numerous hunting seasons.
“Things finally came together this year for us. The investigation remains ongoing,” Oneale said Monday via e-mail.
Three Australians suspected of poaching were arrested last week on multiple charges and later booked into the Elmore County jail.
Eleven charges have been filed against the men, with a combined bond set at $165,000.
Anton Kepeller, 58, Darren Tubb, 43, and Samuel Henley, 18, all from Tasmania, Australia, were contacted and later arrested by Idaho Fish and Game conservation officers on Thursday, November 3, near Atlanta. The following day, the three men appeared in court before Elmore County magistrate Judge David Epis, where formal charges were read.
KTVB IN BOISE POSTED THIS IMAGE OF THE SUSPECTS. THE STATION REPORTED THE IMAGES CAME FROM THE ELMORE COUNTY SHERIFF'S OFFICE.
Kepeller faces six misdemeanor counts, including possession of unlawfully taken elk, and aiding-counseling the killing of elk during closed season. Tubb was charged with three misdemeanors, including killing a bull elk closed season, wasteful destruction of elk, and transfer of a tag. Henley faces two charges, including attempting to kill elk during closed season and use of a tag of another.
Epis set bond for Kepeller, Tubb and Henley at $75,000, $50,000 and $40,000 respectively. He also added special conditions to the case, requiring the three men – should they bond out of jail – to appear for a bond hearing and not leave the state of Idaho.
The investigation continues, and more charges could be filed in the future.
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On the flip side, there is this, its not an Aussie pride thing, because its a Kiwi holding the flag in Idaho/Montana and making y'all look good.I figure that a bit of Anzac solidarity would work. Anyway, its a restaurant review for one of the best cheap restaurants in America, run by a white half Maori woman in West Yellowstone Mt. (100 yards from Idaho) The woman makes Buffalo pasties (for about $8) that are worth killing over. If I thought she was straight, I'd have proposed and never left the joint. Seriously, I had foodgasms at this place. I gave up a fishing trip to do a return trip for lunch. Let's think about this, I flew to Montana to fish and decided I'd rather eat in a diner than catch trout? All I can say is that this woman can do things with buffalo and elk that I can't describe.;)
FQ13
http://www.tripadvisor.com/Restaurant_Review-g45399-d1107015-Reviews-Kiwi_s_Takeaway-West_Yellowstone_Montana.html
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Dude, What the hell does that have to do with Aussies bagged for poaching elk ???
On the topic I have to wonder if there is more to the story.
I mean, who would save up there money to fly half way around the world in the wrong season ?
If they did enough research to find out where Idaho is one would think they would keep going to find the best time to get there.
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Dude, What the hell does that have to do with Aussies bagged for poaching elk ???
On the topic I have to wonder if there is more to the story.
I mean, who would save up there money to fly half way around the world in the wrong season ?
If they did enough research to find out where Idaho is one would think they would keep going to find the best time to get there.
It has to do with the fact that its God's country and all sorts of refugees and ex pats wind up there (I would be one if I could take the cold :-\). As far as the poaching? Maybe they were selling to the Chinese medicinal trade, maybe they just wanted an Elk by whatever means, and maybe they wound up on the wrong side of a Fish and Wildlife sting. Things get weird when it comes to killing large animals out west. People do strange things.
FQ13
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I want to know more of these buffalo pasties!
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I want to know more of these buffalo pasties!
She didn't glue them to her tits Tim, they were like an empanada. ::) ;D A meat pie with thyme, rosemary, wine, stock and God knows what else, all in a flaky crust. I couldn't get enough. She was gay, pear shaped and had a bit of an acid tongue. I still would have proposed. The food was that good.
FQ13
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It has to do with the fact that its God's country and all sorts of refugees and ex pats wind up there (I would be one if I could take the cold :-\). As far as the poaching? Maybe they were selling to the Chinese medicinal trade, maybe they just wanted an Elk by whatever means, and maybe they wound up on the wrong side of a Fish and Wildlife sting. Things get weird when it comes to killing large animals out west. People do strange things.
FQ13
It's not the cold that stops me, (I live in NH fer crying out loud ;D ) There doesn't seem to be any real variety in the trees out there.
Here we use different woods for different purposes, except for Polar, (similar to Aspen ) which has no real use.
Out there seems to be nothing but Pine, Spruce, and useless Aspen.
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She didn't glue them to her tits Tim, they were like an empanada. ::) ;D A meat pie with thyme, rosemary, wine, stock and God knows what else, all in a flaky crust. I couldn't get enough. She was gay, pear shaped and had a bit of an acid tongue. I still would have proposed. The food was that good.
FQ13
Professor, you're the one that misspelled the word pastries, not me....re-read your own post and then apply for a refund for your education! Oh! Wait, the taxpayers paid for your education, I forgot!
Your welcome BTW!
;D ;D
I figured she was making a meat dress like Lady Gaga...
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Professor, you're the one that misspelled the word pastries, not me....re-read your own post and then apply for a refund for your education! Oh! Wait, the taxpayers paid for your education, I forgot!
Your welcome BTW!
;D ;D
I figured she was making a meat dress like Lady Gaga...
Sorry, (for once) no misspelling on my part. Pasties refers to an English style meat pie. Its spelled correctly.
FQ13
PS I'll include this link. In it you will get a bitch slap, a history lesson, and a recipe. What more could you want? ;D
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pasty
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It has to do with the fact that its God's country and all sorts of refugees and ex pats wind up there (I would be one if I could take the cold :-\). As far as the poaching? Maybe they were selling to the Chinese medicinal trade, maybe they just wanted an Elk by whatever means, and maybe they wound up on the wrong side of a Fish and Wildlife sting. Things get weird when it comes to strangers and foreigners killing large animals out west. People do strange things.
FQ13
FIFY. People in the west know how to live with and off the land. It is the know-it-all interlopers we have trouble with.
Once again, you appear to have read the title, gotten all squishy overs some reminiscence, and completely missed the point of the OP.
Idaho Fish & Game spokesman Evin Oneale said the men have been suspected of hunting-related crimes for numerous hunting seasons.
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FIFY. People in the west know how to live with and off the land. It is the know-it-all interlopers we have trouble with.
Once again, you appear to have read the title, gotten all squishy overs some reminiscence, and completely missed the point of the OP.
I'd be careful about going there Path, it wasn't the casual visitors who nearly exterminated the buffalo.
There are A holes every where .
No argument about FQ's mind wandering.
Granted thread drift is a trade mark here, but we usually manage at least one reply on topic before the slide starts.
Maybe we could invent a Brain leash ;D
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I'd be careful about going there Path, it wasn't the casual visitors who nearly exterminated the buffalo.
There are A holes every where .
No argument about FQ's mind wandering.
Granted thread drift is a trade mark here, but we usually manage at least one reply on topic before the slide starts.
Maybe we could invent a Brain leash ;D
No, it was the interlopers. It certainly wasn't the first peoples (Indians), nor the mountain men. It was the wankers from back east out to make a killing (literally and financially) in buffalo robes, plus the ones hired by the US Army to exterminate the food source for the Plains Indians. Remember, even Earp started out in Illinois and Missouri before doing his stint in buffalo harvesting.
And yes, there are assholes everywhere. We certainly have them here, but the interlopers are the ones to watch out for. Did we have crime before recently. Yeah, sure, but we did not have anyone holding up a Cashwise video store with a freakin' shotgun - a pointed finger would have gotten you the cash - like we did recently. These are interlopers who have followed the population migration to one of the few states with a positive cash flow and jobs.
Personally, I think we need to get FQ a brain pacemaker, and I get first dibs on the remote!!!!! ;D
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Sorry, (for once) no misspelling on my part. Pasties refers to an English style meat pie. Its spelled correctly.
FQ13
PS I'll include this link. In it you will get a bitch slap, a history lesson, and a recipe. What more could you want? ;D
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pasty
Then, I stand corrected. Admittedly, I tend to ignore the English 1/4 of my DNA and focus on the Irish and Norwegian parts. I've always considered a meat pie as me, sandwiched between two cocktail waitresses!
;D
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No, it was the interlopers. It certainly wasn't the first peoples (Indians), nor the mountain men. It was the wankers from back east out to make a killing (literally and financially) in buffalo robes, plus the ones hired by the US Army to exterminate the food source for the Plains Indians. Remember, even Earp started out in Illinois and Missouri before doing his stint in buffalo harvesting.
And yes, there are assholes everywhere. We certainly have them here, but the interlopers are the ones to watch out for. Did we have crime before recently. Yeah, sure, but we did not have anyone holding up a Cashwise video store with a freakin' shotgun - a pointed finger would have gotten you the cash - like we did recently. These are interlopers who have followed the population migration to one of the few states with a positive cash flow and jobs.
Personally, I think we need to get FQ a brain pacemaker, and I get first dibs on the remote!!!!! ;D
Actually Path, before they got the horse the Indians "hunted" buffalo by stampeding a whole herd off a cliff.
And the reason the Mountain men kept moving Westward was because they were trapping out the beaver as they went.
As for crime, do I have to point out that train and bank robbery were both invented in the West.
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Actually Path, before they got the horse the Indians "hunted" buffalo by stampeding a whole herd off a cliff.
And the reason the Mountain men kept moving Westward was because they were trapping out the beaver as they went.
As for crime, do I have to point out that train and bank robbery were both invented in the West.
True, but that was maybe once a year, not to the point of extinction.
The first train robbery was in Indiana. ;)
That may be west of you, but then, what isn't? ? ? ? ?
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True, but that was maybe once a year, not to the point of extinction.
The first train robbery was in Indiana. ;)
That may be west of you, but then, what isn't? ? ? ? ?
;D
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Actually Path, before they got the horse the Indians "hunted" buffalo by stampeding a whole herd off a cliff.
And the reason the Mountain men kept moving Westward was because they were trapping out the beaver as they went.
As for crime, do I have to point out that train and bank robbery were both invented in the West.
Tom, I think bank robbery started during the civil war. The St. Albans, Vermont, raid of three banks, by a band of confederates led by Bennett Young was on Oct 19, 1864.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/St._Albans_Raid
There was also the June 8, 1864 theft of $60,000 from Farmers Bank in Mt. Sterling, KY by Morgan's Raiders.
http://eakycivilwar.blogspot.com/2011/07/mt-sterling-important-military-base.html
June 8, 1864 – CS John Hunt Morgan with 600 of his men captured Mt. Sterling. and 150US soldiers. CSA forces under Gen. John H. Morgan, while on his last raid through Kentucky, attacked the Union camp at Mount Sterling under Capt. Edward Barlow and captured the town. Morgan's forces took 380 prisoners and material. Interview with a gentleman who was with Morgan's command, "They next made a dash on Mount Sterling, and captured four hundred of the enemy and large supplies of military and medical stores." Leaving a force here under Col. H. L. Giltner, Morgan moved west with his 2nd Brigade.
Later, at night, several of Morgan's men went to the house of J. O. Miller, cashier of the Farmer's Bank, took the vault key from him and robbed the bank of $60,000. The money was never recovered.
And this from wiki: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bank_robbery
The first bank robbery in the United States is often claimed to have taken place at the Clay County Savings Association in Liberty, Missouri, on 13 February 1866 when several men believed to be members of the James-Younger Gang shot a 19-year-old student and escaped with $60,000. This is also claimed (including by the museum established at the bank where it happened) as the first bank robbery in daylight in peacetime,[7] to distinguish it from robberies such as that from the banks at St Albans, Vermont more than a year earlier which were perpetrated by Confederate soldiers and which some historians consider to be not robberies proper but acts of war.[8]
However, twenty-five months earlier, just before noon on 15 December 1863 a man walked into a bank in Middlesex County, Massachusetts and shot the 17-year-old bookkeeper and stole $3,000 in large bills and a further $2,000 in small bills. The directors of the bank offered a $6,000 reward for the arrest of the murderer.[9]
An even earlier alleged bank robbery is known to have occurred, but details are few. According to The New York Times, the first bank robbery in United States history took place on 19 March 1831, when the City Bank of New York lost $245,000, but the exact method is not clear so it cannot be confirmed that this was a robbery and not a burglary
Also found this interesting tidbit.
http://www.thefreemanonline.org/featured/the-non-existent-frontier-bank-robbery/
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I want to know more of these buffalo pasties!
Timothy, are you really from Michigan? Haven't you ever been to the UP. Pasties are the National food of the UP and have invaded portions of the Northern LP.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pasty
The Upper Peninsula of Michigan. In some areas, pasties are a significant tourist attraction, including an annual Pasty Fest in Calumet, Michigan in early July. Pasties in the Upper Peninsula of Michigan have a particularly unusual history, as a small influx of Finnish immigrants followed the Cornish miners in 1864. These Finns (and many other ethnic groups) adopted the pasty for use in the Copper Country copper mines. About 30 years later, a much larger flood of Finnish immigrants found their countrymen baking pasties. The pasty has become strongly associated with Finnish culture in this area, and in the culturally similar Iron Range in northern Minnesota.[
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Timothy, are you really from Michigan? Haven't you ever been to the UP. Pasties are the National food of the UP and have invaded portions of the Northern LP.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pasty
The Upper Peninsula of Michigan. In some areas, pasties are a significant tourist attraction, including an annual Pasty Fest in Calumet, Michigan in early July. Pasties in the Upper Peninsula of Michigan have a particularly unusual history, as a small influx of Finnish immigrants followed the Cornish miners in 1864. These Finns (and many other ethnic groups) adopted the pasty for use in the Copper Country copper mines. About 30 years later, a much larger flood of Finnish immigrants found their countrymen baking pasties. The pasty has become strongly associated with Finnish culture in this area, and in the culturally similar Iron Range in northern Minnesota.[
Yes Wolfe, born and raised in GR as we've discussed several times here and on the phone. I'd probably heard of pasties in my youth but alas, my brain and it's contents are mushed up mass of grey matter. I've spent some time in the UP but only with some old drinking buddies and the occasional girl friend.
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Like Path pointed out, That's all West of here. ;D
Actually I had forgotten the St Albens raid.
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Actually, the earliest bank robbery in America occured at The Bank of Pennsylvania at Carpenters Hall in 1798. It also saw the beginning of one of the first successful civil suits for false imprisonment, filed by Pat Lyon who was unjustly accused of the crime.
FQ13
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Got a link on that FQ ?
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Got a link on that FQ ?
Yeah, its actually kind of a big deal (bank robbery aside), as it set a precedent for suing the government for false imprisonment, even if they acted in good faith. The quick and dirty link is here. http://www.ushistory.org/carpentershall/history/robbery.htm There are other links if you are looking for the legal stuff, but this one lays out the facts.
FQ13
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Page 3 and head is spinning how a subject of tasmanian poachers went immediately to a English Pastie to Civil War Bank robbery?
(http://www.dailygifblog.com/2010/01/3d-spinning-head.html)
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Page 3 and head is spinning how a subject of tasmanian poachers went immediately to a English Pastie to Civil War Bank robbery?
(http://www.dailygifblog.com/2010/01/3d-spinning-head.html)
Its why we are a super power and y'all aint. We Multi-task. ;D ;D ;D
FQ13
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Page 3 and head is spinning how a subject of tasmanian poachers went immediately to a English Cornish Pastie to Civil War Bank robbery?
(http://www.dailygifblog.com/2010/01/3d-spinning-head.html)
FIFY, ya Tasmanian wanker!!!!!! ;D
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Thanks FQ, I was only interested in the robbery it's self.
Page 3 and head is spinning how a subject of tasmanian poachers went immediately to a English Pastie to Civil War Bank robbery?
(http://www.dailygifblog.com/2010/01/3d-spinning-head.html)
You forget who you are dealing with Sir. ;D
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Page 3 and head is spinning how a subject of tasmanian poachers went immediately to a English Pastie to Civil War Bank robbery?
(http://www.dailygifblog.com/2010/01/3d-spinning-head.html)
I'd be scratching my head it any thread got to 3 pages without a drift or two...usually back on topic and off again by then.