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[tombogan03884]

FIFY. People in the west know how to live with and off the land. It is the know-it-all interlopers we have trouble with.

Once again, you appear to have read the title, gotten all squishy overs some reminiscence, and completely missed the point of the OP.

I'd be careful about going there Path, it wasn't the casual visitors who nearly exterminated the buffalo.
There are A holes every where .
No argument about FQ's mind wandering.
Granted thread drift is a trade mark here, but we usually manage at least one reply on topic before the slide starts.
Maybe we could invent a Brain leash 

[Pathfinder]

I'd be careful about going there Path, it wasn't the casual visitors who nearly exterminated the buffalo.
There are A holes every where .
No argument about FQ's mind wandering.
Granted thread drift is a trade mark here, but we usually manage at least one reply on topic before the slide starts.
Maybe we could invent a Brain leash 

No, it was the interlopers. It certainly wasn't the first peoples (Indians), nor the mountain men. It was the wankers from back east out to make a killing (literally and financially) in buffalo robes, plus the ones hired by the US Army to exterminate the food source for the Plains Indians. Remember, even Earp started out in Illinois and Missouri before doing his stint in buffalo harvesting.

And yes, there are assholes everywhere. We certainly have them here, but the interlopers are the ones to watch out for. Did we have crime before recently. Yeah, sure, but we did not have anyone holding up a Cashwise video store with a freakin' shotgun - a pointed finger would have gotten you the cash - like we did recently. These are interlopers who have followed the population migration to one of the few states with a positive cash flow and jobs.

Personally, I think we need to get FQ a brain pacemaker, and I get first dibs on the remote!!!!! 

[Timothy]

Sorry, (for once) no misspelling on my part. Pasties refers to an English style meat pie. Its spelled correctly.
FQ13
PS I'll include this link. In it you will get a bitch slap, a history lesson, and a recipe. What more could you want? 

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pasty

Then, I stand corrected.  Admittedly, I tend to ignore the English 1/4 of my DNA and focus on the Irish and Norwegian parts.  I've always considered a meat pie as me, sandwiched between two cocktail waitresses!

 

[tombogan03884]

No, it was the interlopers. It certainly wasn't the first peoples (Indians), nor the mountain men. It was the wankers from back east out to make a killing (literally and financially) in buffalo robes, plus the ones hired by the US Army to exterminate the food source for the Plains Indians. Remember, even Earp started out in Illinois and Missouri before doing his stint in buffalo harvesting.

And yes, there are assholes everywhere. We certainly have them here, but the interlopers are the ones to watch out for. Did we have crime before recently. Yeah, sure, but we did not have anyone holding up a Cashwise video store with a freakin' shotgun - a pointed finger would have gotten you the cash - like we did recently. These are interlopers who have followed the population migration to one of the few states with a positive cash flow and jobs.

Personally, I think we need to get FQ a brain pacemaker, and I get first dibs on the remote!!!!! 

Actually Path, before they got the horse the Indians "hunted" buffalo by stampeding a whole herd off a cliff.
And the reason the Mountain men kept moving Westward was because they were trapping out the beaver as they went.
As for crime, do I have to point out that train and bank robbery were both invented in the West.

[Pathfinder]

Actually Path, before they got the horse the Indians "hunted" buffalo by stampeding a whole herd off a cliff.
And the reason the Mountain men kept moving Westward was because they were trapping out the beaver as they went.
As for crime, do I have to point out that train and bank robbery were both invented in the West.

True, but that was maybe once a year, not to the point of extinction.

The first train robbery was in Indiana.  

That may be west of you, but then, what isn't? ? ? ? ?

[Sponsor]

[tombogan03884]

True, but that was maybe once a year, not to the point of extinction.

The first train robbery was in Indiana. 

That may be west of you, but then, what isn't? ? ? ? ?

               

[blackwolfe]

Actually Path, before they got the horse the Indians "hunted" buffalo by stampeding a whole herd off a cliff.
And the reason the Mountain men kept moving Westward was because they were trapping out the beaver as they went.
As for crime, do I have to point out that train and bank robbery were both invented in the West.

Tom, I think bank robbery started during the civil war.  The St. Albans, Vermont, raid of three banks, by a band of confederates led by Bennett Young was on Oct 19, 1864.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/St._Albans_Raid

There was also the June 8, 1864 theft of $60,000 from Farmers Bank in Mt. Sterling, KY by Morgan's Raiders.

http://eakycivilwar.blogspot.com/2011/07/mt-sterling-important-military-base.html

  June 8, 1864 – CS John Hunt Morgan with 600 of his men captured Mt. Sterling. and 150US soldiers. CSA forces under Gen. John H. Morgan, while on his last raid through Kentucky, attacked the Union camp at Mount Sterling under Capt. Edward Barlow and captured the town. Morgan's forces took 380 prisoners and material. Interview with a gentleman who was with Morgan's command, "They next made a dash on Mount Sterling, and captured four hundred of the enemy and large supplies of military and medical stores." Leaving a force here under Col. H. L. Giltner, Morgan moved west with his 2nd Brigade.
Later, at night, several of Morgan's men went to the house of J. O. Miller, cashier of the Farmer's Bank, took the vault key from him and robbed the bank of $60,000. The money was never recovered.

And this from wiki:     http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bank_robbery

The first bank robbery in the United States is often claimed to have taken place at the Clay County Savings Association in Liberty, Missouri, on 13 February 1866 when several men believed to be members of the James-Younger Gang shot a 19-year-old student and escaped with $60,000. This is also claimed (including by the museum established at the bank where it happened) as the first bank robbery in daylight in peacetime,[7] to distinguish it from robberies such as that from the banks at St Albans, Vermont more than a year earlier which were perpetrated by Confederate soldiers and which some historians consider to be not robberies proper but acts of war.[8]

However, twenty-five months earlier, just before noon on 15 December 1863 a man walked into a bank in Middlesex County, Massachusetts and shot the 17-year-old bookkeeper and stole $3,000 in large bills and a further $2,000 in small bills. The directors of the bank offered a $6,000 reward for the arrest of the murderer.[9]

An even earlier alleged bank robbery is known to have occurred, but details are few. According to The New York Times, the first bank robbery in United States history took place on 19 March 1831, when the City Bank of New York lost $245,000, but the exact method is not clear so it cannot be confirmed that this was a robbery and not a burglary

Also found this interesting tidbit.
http://www.thefreemanonline.org/featured/the-non-existent-frontier-bank-robbery/

[blackwolfe]

I want to know more of these buffalo pasties!

Timothy, are you really from Michigan?  Haven't you ever been to the UP.  Pasties are the National food of the UP and have invaded portions of the Northern LP. 

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pasty

The Upper Peninsula of Michigan. In some areas, pasties are a significant tourist attraction, including an annual Pasty Fest in Calumet, Michigan in early July. Pasties in the Upper Peninsula of Michigan have a particularly unusual history, as a small influx of Finnish immigrants followed the Cornish miners in 1864. These Finns (and many other ethnic groups) adopted the pasty for use in the Copper Country copper mines. About 30 years later, a much larger flood of Finnish immigrants found their countrymen baking pasties. The pasty has become strongly associated with Finnish culture in this area, and in the culturally similar Iron Range in northern Minnesota.[

[Timothy]

Timothy, are you really from Michigan?  Haven't you ever been to the UP.  Pasties are the National food of the UP and have invaded portions of the Northern LP. 

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pasty

The Upper Peninsula of Michigan. In some areas, pasties are a significant tourist attraction, including an annual Pasty Fest in Calumet, Michigan in early July. Pasties in the Upper Peninsula of Michigan have a particularly unusual history, as a small influx of Finnish immigrants followed the Cornish miners in 1864. These Finns (and many other ethnic groups) adopted the pasty for use in the Copper Country copper mines. About 30 years later, a much larger flood of Finnish immigrants found their countrymen baking pasties. The pasty has become strongly associated with Finnish culture in this area, and in the culturally similar Iron Range in northern Minnesota.[

Yes Wolfe, born and raised in GR as we've discussed several times here and on the phone.  I'd probably heard of pasties in my youth but alas, my brain and it's contents are mushed up mass of grey matter.  I've spent some time in the UP but only with some old drinking buddies and the occasional girl friend.

[tombogan03884]

Like Path pointed out, That's all West of here. 
Actually I had forgotten the St Albens raid.