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Member Section => Politics & RKBA => Topic started by: Rastus on January 09, 2012, 06:26:58 PM
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OK. I've mostly stayed away from zeroing in on a candidate. I will call a candidate a zero, however. Romney is a RINO zero in my book. He is what the established press and liberals want to run against. Romney is the lesser of two evils (compared to Obama).
Newt has character failures and that matters to me. He was not honest with past wives and that is more than bothersome. However, I'm not ready to zero him out. He is by far the most capable & intelligent candidate I've seen.
My thought is that Ron Paul's isolationism is narcissic. Will Ron become more practical as President? Pulling the troops back may sound good....but maintaining international bases for operations sounds better...I don't know where he stands on that. We need international bases to maintain a supply chain to support possible future defense operations.
How about Ron Paul keeping Newt honest as President?
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Romney is the Democrats "other" nominee.
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Romney is the Democrats "other" nominee.
Exactly.
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Ronmey can't win (because McCain couldn't win)..
The Paulites will go to Obama or somewhere else, but most will NEVER forgive the GOP for not going along.
If Romney gets the nomination, WE will lose...
You heard it here first..
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Ronmey can't win (because McCain couldn't win)..
The Paulites will go to Obama or somewhere else, but most will NEVER forgive the GOP for not going along.
If Romney gets the nomination, WE will lose...
You heard it here first..
I'm generally in that camp that Romney will lose. Had he the nod instead of McCain same result. Now, I'm not so certain.
The establishment is once again covering their bets with their attempts to leave Romney as the "relief valve" for peoples anger and frustration. A choice that will not be a choice.
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Considering that Romney could not even beat John McCain, if he does win it will be the "Any one but BO" vote that does it.
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if he does win it will be the "Any one but BO" vote that does it.
Unfortunately,Thats all this election is going to be about. :-\
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Limbaugh mentioned that the Ken Doll, will have to be "pushed" to the Right, if he is serious about winning....Not run a McCain v.2.0.
Also observed, was "when did Republicans disapprove of capitalism?"....Newt's PAC, is running ads that are making Debbie Wasserman Schultz, and the Left, smile and chuckle....
After all this Primary mess, cluster**** is over, if the nominee is Romney, the Left is going to unleash over a BILLION DOLLARS worth of negative ads that will have us "Pulling an Elvis" against our TV's....
But with negative infighting among Republicans,,,,,the Left will save some money running "re-runs".....
We are so doomed... :-\
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WE ARE NOT DOOMED!
Suck it up and deal with it! This election is not over until my fat ass grows a vagina and starts singing!
Damn, lets not quit before it's over...
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WE ARE NOT DOOMED!
Suck it up and deal with it! This election is not over until my fat ass grows a vagina and starts singing!
Damn, lets not quit before it's over...
That's where your wrong, according to the media, if Romney wins NH it's all over.
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That's where your wrong, according to the media, if Romney wins NH it's all over.
And since when did you start listening to the media?
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It's tom,....he has the historical stats to back it up....
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Dude, sarcasm,
No historical link, it was one of the yahoo news stories earlier.
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If either Perry or Gingrich would think for a minute, they could turn this Bain mess into a closed subject, if either would only say that "They're running for President of the United States, not Investor in Chief. EVERY American job is worth fighting for! No (non-government) jobs are simply disposible".
I don't guess any of their highly paid consultants can get that far in their thinking, though..
So what the dickens is wrong with Ann Coulter?!
What about Hannity?! He's having palpitations because a primary is a heated process!!!
This "inevitability" thing with Romney gets fed because so called Conservative Pundants want to run the campaigns of every candidate in the race, but raise "clean hands" when anybody looks at them as part of the debate..
Can nobody see this stuff?
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I think, though this country is capable of electing the most leftist, Marxist, socialists to ever hold office, we can no longer be expected to elect a true conservative! The media will not allow it and the sheep will just go where the feed trough is located when the dinner bell rings for their next meal of bias! "Hey Ma, American Idol starts tonight!"....
The far right is too far right for me and anything left is unacceptable! None of the candidates, so far, are true conservatives in my opinion but I don't necessarily think that makes them unelectable or undesirable either!
They all have made one thing perfectly clear during several debates; that any one of them would be an acceptable alternative to Barrack Hussein Obama for the next four years!
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I'm still waiting for, and at my age it may never happen, for the candidate that looks at the Constitution and the situation the nation is in rather than polls.
I'm waiting for the candidate that will look the career welfare recipients, the occupy wall street and the free health care for all crowds in the eye and tell them to get off their ass, get a job, and give to those in need.
I am waiting for the candidate that will remind us all that personal responsibility starts with the person and not the government. And this is why I agree with Rastus in his stance on Newt. Repeat offenders have had their second chance and shown their character flaws are more than a simple mistake.
I will continue to be a voter that votes based on stance and not about electability. Remember, I voted for Gov. Ventura on a principle, and the entire state of Minnesota was shocked when he won.
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I'm still waiting for, and at my age it may never happen, for the candidate that looks at the Constitution and the situation the nation is in rather than polls.
I'm waiting for the candidate that will look the career welfare recipients, the occupy wall street and the free health care for all crowds in the eye and tell them to get off their ass, get a job, and give to those in need.
I am waiting for the candidate that will remind us all that personal responsibility starts with the person and not the government. And this is why I agree with Rastus in his stance on Newt. Repeat offenders have had their second chance and shown their character flaws are more than a simple mistake.
I will continue to be a voter that votes based on stance and not about electability. Remember, I voted for Gov. Ventura on a principle, and the entire state of Minnesota was shocked when he won.
I think you just stated, so eloquently, what we all are waiting for Mike! Does that person exist? I don't know but I'm willing to bet that he or she does!
BTW...my big sister voted for Jesse too for similar reasons! Principle is a noble thing!
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WE ARE NOT DOOMED!
.... until my fat ass grows a vagina and starts singing!
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That's an image I could have lived without..
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I'm still waiting for, and at my age it may never happen, for the candidate that looks at the Constitution and the situation the nation is in rather than polls.
I'm waiting for the candidate that will look the career welfare recipients, the occupy wall street and the free health care for all crowds in the eye and tell them to get off their ass, get a job, and give to those in need.
I am waiting for the candidate that will remind us all that personal responsibility starts with the person and not the government. And this is why I agree with Rastus in his stance on Newt. Repeat offenders have had their second chance and shown their character flaws are more than a simple mistake.
I will continue to be a voter that votes based on stance and not about electability. Remember, I voted for Gov. Ventura on a principle, and the entire state of Minnesota was shocked when he won.
Well put.
I have stated on several occasions and I have long maintained that we will never again see the candidate that America NEEDS to run for PoTUS.......... Simply because the man (or woman) that we need to be smart enough, moral enough, and agenda-less, won't run BECAUSE they are smart enough to stay away from the media prying and mudslinging.......in effect, smart enough to walk away.
We are stuck with people who want the position for all the wrong reasons.
We no longer have statesmen.
I agree that Newt has the intelligence level from a certain perspective, but I don't know if America can overcome the 'baggage'. I don't agree with many things he has done in his personal life, but if I thought for one minute that he had the sense to do the job of PoTUS with the best interest of the nation at heart, I might vote for him, despite the aforementioned personal misgivings.
This ain't gonna be easy, folks.
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I've made up my mind. No vote for Romney. Not now, not ever.
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Goes along with the "establishment" of BOTH parties, and the MSM, shaping and morphing the election process to "give us" the voters, the candidate THEY choose.
The Dems want Romney against BHO, the RINO's want Romney, the Rep. talking heads, want Romney. The MSM already made him the "presumptive nominee" weeks ago.
Tues. I am voting for Newt, simply because he has so many people, inside the beltway and out, of both parties, with their boxers in a bunch and pulling out all the stops to make him "unelectable"....
Screw them....I've had it with the establishment mindset...."Gracing the voting citizenry" with a plastic Ken Doll RINO from Mass.
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I'm not voting for Romney either but that won't matter up here. He'll take MA by a landslide on Super Smoosday.
I held my nose and voted for that dipshit McCain, I expect most of us will do the same come November 6, 2012.
Remember your Senate and House races as well. One of these days, Obama will step on his crank hard enough for someone to grow some balls and impeach him! If he's re-elected, he'll think that all of his questionable actions have been sanctioned by the American people! His ego won't let him not take credit for his inaction!
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<snip> Screw them....I've had it with the establishment mindset...."Gracing the voting citizenry" with a plastic Ken Doll RINO from Mass.
I like how you express yourself. This is something I think most of us can get behind. Do not support the nefarious establishment who designs a future for their own gain.
Is used to be the slogan to not trust anyone over 30 to counter the establishment. Now age has nothing to do with it...it's the Democrats & RINO's...."DNR"....Dishonest Not Righteous.
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I've made up my mind. No vote for Romney. Not now, not ever.
Me too. Been catching hell for that for months now..
Did you hear Richard Land a week or two ago, get his "snark" in on Gingrich? He was doing an interview with somebody on TV and when the head suggested Gingrichs "baggage", he said "you mean Freight".. I wonder what he things of Bill Bennett or Chuck Colson.. That kind of attitude from a Christian leader comes back to bite him every time, sooner or later..