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Member Section => Down Range Cafe => Topic started by: twyacht on June 03, 2012, 06:49:58 AM
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This has got to be one of the worst pranks I've ever seen. Jeopardizing LEO's, families, and gun owners.
http://www.thetruthaboutguns.com/2012/06/robert-farago/question-of-the-day-what-would-you-do-if-you-were-swated/
“Conservative bloggers say they are being terrorized by a potentially deadly prank in which phony 911 calls bring armed cops to their doors in search of criminals, all in retaliation for their blog posts,” foxnews.com reports. “At least two conservative Internet pundits have reported being victims of ‘SWAT-ing.’ In one incident, the caller claimed to be the resident of the home and confessed to shooting his wife [phone call above].” Interesting that it took police 19 minutes to pull LA Deputy DA Patrick Frey (a.k.a., Patterico) from his digs. Equally interesting, in an OMFG kinda way, what the hell would any well-armed citizen do when the SWAT team arrives? In this no-knock militarized police world we live in, you wouldn’t even have time to hide the dogs. As for those of us who home carry, uh-oh. What YOU gonna do when they come for you, especially if you don’t know it’s them?
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That could end SO badly :o
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Guess I would be dead. My .40 is right at my bed side. If they came busting in without announcing they were police I would hunker down beside my bed and shoot the first man thru the door then I guess I would be meat sauce along with my wife. I don't blog and I guess I won't ever.
Do you know the results, what happened?
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Since I am a law abiding citizen, I have no reason to believe that those armed people busting down my door are there for any other reason than to harm me. Yep, this is going to end very badly. Specially if they shoot my dog.
I can only hope that once one of these "pranks" gets someone killed (and that will happen) that the authorities can track down the "prankster" and prosecute it for some flavor of murder.
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OK, the leftoids are controlling the discussion YET again!!! This is not a prank, it is a crime - filing a false police report to start.
The potential consequences are too serious and the intent on the part of the leftoids is so despicable that we need to call it out for what it is - a crime, and something to be prosecuted to the fullest if/when the perps are caught.
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That could end SO badly :o
I think that's the point, of the so called "prank". Murder by proxy (cop)? I thought 911 calls showed address and number? If the number is blocked, quite a bit more investigation should be done before SWAT is dispatched.
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There is a program you can get for smart phones that allow you to insert another number that will show up on caller ID.
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The really pathetic part is that the first several comments I read objected to the writers "taking the Lords name in vain".
Apparently they are OK with trying to get some one killed.
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Not cool at all. >:(
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If someone get's killed it will be manslaughter on the caller's part and a failure to confirm the call should put massive liability on the policing agency.
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If someone get's killed it will be manslaughter on the caller's part and a failure to confirm the call should put massive liability on the policing agency.
I do believe a felony, which this type of false report should be, that results in death is considered murder. Premeditated would be pretty easy to prove as well.
As for the PD, as long as they acted in good faith I think it would be hard to pin anything on them.
This is were having a good relationship with local PD, or at least an officer or two, should be part of our overall plan. I mean most of us have a plan for the "zombie apocalypse" or EOTWAWKI shouldn't we cultivate some relationship with local PDs?
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I posed the situation to my nieces husband, a SWAT guy turned SWAT Trainer in a small city in the area, and asked if the caller couldn't be charges with Murder, had it gone down that way. He said that Criminal Mischief and making the caller pay for the cost of deploying the SWAT Team was all that could be charged against him, as "Intent" would be near impossible to prove..
He brushed it off..
I followed that up with that White Paper from Cato about all the wrong addresses, that I posted somewhere here.. http://www.cato.org/pubs/wtpapers/balko_whitepaper_2006.pdf and he replied that he didn't pay attention to those sorts of things, but just "developed his craft"..
I have yet to have a Cop treat any of these things seriously.. I know "why".. I just wonder if they would all be as dismissive or passe' about the tactics employed against those not demonstrated to be "in need" of such treatment if it were their own wives and children in danger of being shot to death in their own beds..
And my merely suggesting this would immediately incour the ire and wrath of the same LEOs so dismissive of the practice on somebody else..
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Sounds to me like a few of these SWAT guys need to have it happen to them.
Law Enforcement in general are the enemies of the people by the fact that they are governments muscle.
Their job, and general attitude makes them no different than Mafia leg breakers.
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...What would I do?
Most likely bleed to death.
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Interesting that in Indiana, the homeowner could get away with defending himself against the unlawful entry of the SWAT Team, (see new Ind. law post),....That is of course, if they survived the gunshots.....Incoming fire has right of way.
http://www.theblaze.com/stories/latest-swatting-victim-is-brett-kimberlin-bloggers-work-to-debunk/