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Member Section => Down Range Cafe => Topic started by: Tyler Durden on June 10, 2012, 07:39:10 PM
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Sooooo.... Let me guess, that basically leaves the Ruger 10/22.
Anything else out there?
I am guessing Volquartsen still does or did make its own 10/22 receivers.
I tried to shoot at some Appleseed targets yesterday with my Savage 93 bolt gun in .17 HMR.
it is not all that well suited for Appleseed. It's mag only holds 5 rounds.
On Brownell's, I did find a Bell and Carlson target stock that has the rail under the forearm, for the 10/22. Just $300.
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Remington makes several versions of the 597 including "tactical" rifles but I'm still a 10/22 fan. http://www.remington.com/product-families/firearms/rimfire-families/autoloading-model-597.aspx
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AR- 7 survival rifle.
Henry is making them these days.
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Nothing wrong with the 10/22, especially the Varmint model.
Surely some other manufacturers make one that's box fed.
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I shot 3 position small bore in junior high and high school. I used the club's Remington 540 single shot .22. It had a target stock with the rail in the bottom of the forearm. So my left hand wore a thick leather shooting glove butted up next to the handstop and was kinda trapped in place by the leather sling. I could get really locked in, and it felt good.
I'm gonna need all the help I can muster judging by my targets I shot yesterday.
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what is funny is that 3 position standing never used a sling, but from the pictures of other Appleseed shots I have seen, they actually teach and advocate the use of a sling while standing, plus to chicken wing the trigger arm.
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Tyler... spent 5 years turning a $125 10/22 into a $750 10/22...just say the word ... not that sure of the Appleseed format, but I always like to help others spend money... it's good for the economy
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Les, Appleseed is basically 3 position sling supported.
Same as they taught in the Marine Corps.
The course was originally focused on M 1a and Garand, but they let you shoot what ever you have.
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Sooooo.... Let me guess, that basically leaves the Ruger 10/22.
Anything else out there?
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Tactical Solutions. The box mag pretty much zeroed you in on the 10/22 platform. I thought HK or CZ may have had something but...I didn't see anything with them in a box mag. My Tacsol barrel is a real tack driver if I shoot without the brake...the brake spreads the grouping in mine. And yes, I thought the brake was foolish for a 22....WRONG.
Stay away from the Fajen adjustible stock. I have one and it's really heavy. I wanted something adjustible for hunting...but the Fajen is strictly for bench unless your budget is like mine.
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There are plenty of 22 AR platforms out there . A bit more expensive than a 10/22 but box fed and semi-auto. The MP clone is in 22 also. http://www.hk22rimfire.com/
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what is funny is that 3 position standing never used a sling, but from the pictures of other Appleseed shots I have seen, they actually teach and advocate the use of a sling while standing, plus to chicken wing the trigger arm.
NRA rules, you can't use a sling standing. What I find unusual about this is that since the experts claim a sling provides no help in standing, then why expressly forbid it? If I feel more comfortable with it, then why not let me use it?
I don't find a sling helpful in sitting position since, from shooting air rifles I've adopted the "arm cradle" position. It might be helpful prone, but only if there aren't any natural supports around.
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You can look really cool shooting this:
(http://www.galleryofguns.com/prod_images/GERGSTG44.jpg)
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Tom.. thank you, I'd heard the term but never really looked into it... I've been shooting the USPSA practical pistol and 3 gun for a long time, and even with increasing age, still like to play....the Chevy Truck STC was an optics event, and I shoot TacOptics for 3 gun...my vision wouldn't allow me to use a peep sight very proficiently...the shooting on the move will be hard to give up someday...
Tyler... if you are going to mount something like a Williams peep combo on the receiver, look to a good Weaver style base, mount the rail frist, then mount the sight to the rail...a globe front sight will allow you to hold elevation as the Sun light changes throughout the year
my CMMG dedicated .22lr barrel upper shoots with my 10/22 out to 50y, and allows me to use my AR lower with a good trigger, with the same weight format...we have a local club that is beginning to shoot a 2 gun (pistol rifle) format on small steel, and is a lot of fun... there are other conversion units out there, but go with a dedicated barrel with 1/16 or so twist and barrel diameter for .22lr and not 5.56...
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Tyler... spent 5 years turning a $125 10/22 into a $750 10/22...just say the word ... not that sure of the Appleseed format, but I always like to help others spend money... it's good for the economy
Yeah that is what I am afraid of.
A never ending money pit of a project. :o
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Tyler... spent 5 years turning a $125 10/22 into a $750 10/22...just say the word ... not that sure of the Appleseed format, but I always like to help others spend money... it's good for the economy
Yeah that is what I am afraid of.
A never ending money pit of a project. :o
Don't let it put you off.
The $125, ($250+ today ) works, the $750 ( $1500 :-[ ) just works better, and has the particular bells and tweeks that separate "a gun" from "my gun".
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Marlin 795
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Remington makes several versions of the 597 including "tactical" rifles but I'm still a 10/22 fan. http://www.remington.com/product-families/firearms/rimfire-families/autoloading-model-597.aspx
Marlin 795
People on here seem to say good things about both.
Never heard of or seen either one around here.
Being 20 miles from the Ruger factory might enter into it. ;D
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I've got the reloading components for .223, and the press, i might as well go with what I've already sunk money into.
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Here's a new M1 clone that shows promise. There's also a review of it in the latest issue of SWAT magazine.
http://www.legacysports.com/products/cit_m1.html
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Yeah that is what I am afraid of.
A never ending money pit of a project. :o
Ah, you love it and you know it. :D
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I like buying guns over reloading? Yep, I sure do.
Primers are about 3 cents each.
A whole round of .22LR costs about the same.
I also get to skip out on all the reloading BS, like trimming brass... Or swaging primer pockets.
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So what's it going to be? The guys have a point about the "look alike" rimfires. Several guys I train with have gone with the S&W AR in .22 LR...that H&K is cool, but the S&W matches AR controls with the exception of being able to put a swivel on the buffer tube for a one point sling. One of my sons has the MP-5 lookalike in .22 LR and it does a great job...even though it's scaled down.
I have the CMMG insert for my AR to save a few bucks....but it makes an AR run really, really, dirty, especially with the can. A dedicated 22 LR with controls in the proper place is a better deal.
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for you using ARs with insert ..., from another forum, a couple of ideas
accuracy... measure the throat of your insert...others have found that theirs narrows to .221" or so and would dramatically swage down the bullet
consistency... there is an insert made that applies pressure from the recoil spring/buffer to the insert so the insert is always pushed forward, they claim that it reduces misfires... has a convex nose, so you can close the receivers...I machined a piece out of delrin but haven't had a chance to try it yet
I built a dedicated upper using the CMMG barrel and adapter feed ramp...I like it more every time I use it
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I haven't had any issues with mine. Maybe I have a good one. It feeds great and is as accurate as the EOTech allows to 100 yards.