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Member Section => Down Range Cafe => Topic started by: billt on July 18, 2012, 08:48:13 AM
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http://www.foxnews.com/us/2012/07/18/florida-customer-shoots-suspects-during-internet-cafe-robbery/?test=latestnews
The old mans had enough! Ya' gotta love it!
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http://www.downrange.tv/forum/index.php?topic=20106.0;topicseen
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Don't mess with old men. We can't fight, so we'll just kill you.
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I would love to know how much training he has taken over the years, if any. I hope I can still pull the trigger at 71.
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Probably none since the Army, (replace with appropriate branch )
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I would love to know how much training he has taken over the years, if any. I hope I can still pull the trigger at 71.
Probably none since the Army, (replace with appropriate branch )
+1
I bet he doesn't shoot USPSA either....but that'd just be speculation.
Like Tom said in another thread a while back, if you read many accounts of SD shootings (such as in American Rifleman) the overwhelming majority are oldsters and regular folks who never in a million years expected to be involved in a shoot-out....but won because they A) had a mindset to not be a victim, and B) they had a gun.
I would gamble and bet that the ratio of folks in gunfights that are "well-trained" (non-LEO) versus the number that have never received any training (like the 60+ year old Alabama lady a few years ago) would be way off level.
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To some extent the lack of knowledge might even be an advantage.
A skilled knowledgeable shooter is aware of the seriousness of the situation, and the forces they are about to unleash.
The total neophyte only thinks "make it stop".
It comes back to mindset.
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Interesting how newz' reporterz' edit the video.
Here is a (I think) unedited version.... thought the outcome still the same.
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Is it just video angles or do I see a major screw up on the part of the old guy ?
It appears that he engages the robber with the pistol who moves closest to him while ignoring the robber with (what appears to be ) the shot gun who had moved off the lower left of the screen.
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Tom the other guy had a baseball bat and it looked like he was the first one out the door once the shooting started
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OK, I had to replay it and stop the vid here and there to tell the difference.
First couple times through I saw long thick and shiny. ;D
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Not that it matters, but I read a story where the headline IDed the old man as a 71 year old, but, in the text, it was said he was a 63 year old. Either way, he knew what he had to do.
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and the biggest load of BS in this whole story, they bailed the bad guys WTF?
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and the biggest load of BS in this whole story, they bailed the bad guys WTF?
It's that pesky 5th Amendment, Sledge....
We have rights as do the "alleged" offenders...
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It's not 5th A, it's lawyers.
There is no longer any such thing as "caught in the act", You can be shot while gunning down unarmed victims in a room full of witnesses with the gun in your hand yelling Allah Akbar, while wearing an Army uniform and you are still not a treasonous murderer until a Judge says so.
If you ever go to trial.
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It's not 5th A, it's lawyers.
There is no longer any such thing as "caught in the act", You can be shot while gunning down unarmed victims in a room full of witnesses with the gun in your hand yelling Allah Akbar, while wearing an Army uniform and you are still not a treasonous murderer until a Judge says so.
If you ever go to trial.
Yes, it's lawyers properly or improperly using the 5th, 6th and 8th Amendments...we don't have to like it every time! Everyone, who's a citizen of the United States of America, cannot be held for crimes unless by Grand Jury, have the right to a speedy trial and cannot be held with excessive bail!
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Yes, it's lawyers properly or improperly using the 5th, 6th and 8th Amendments...we don't have to like it every time! Everyone, who's a citizen of the United States of America, cannot be held for crimes unless by Grand Jury, have the right to a speedy trial and cannot be held with excessive bail!
Unless it would make the Presidents coreligionists look bad or you are a non Black who had the temerity to shoot a black pot head who broke your nose.
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Unless it would make the Presidents coreligionists look bad or you are a non Black who had the temerity to shoot a black pot head who broke your nose.
Regardless of the Presidents religious beliefs or the color of his skin, you're not going to win...
Oh! Wait! I forgot about John Roberts....
Never mind!
:'( :'(
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Regardless of the Presidents religious beliefs or the color of his skin, you're not going to win...
Oh! Wait! I forgot about John Roberts....
Never mind!
:'( :'(
Roberts has nothing to do with it.
DOJ, not the defense, has delayed the Ft. Hood trial nearly 3 years, that's not very speedy, in fact, it may be grounds to throw the case out and let the traitor walk for multiple murders.
Zimmerman got whacked with $1million bail for a self defense shooting, sounds pretty excessive to me, just because the liberal judge is opposed to "stand your ground".
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Roberts has nothing to do with it.
DOJ, not the defense, has delayed the Ft. Hood trial nearly 3 years, that's not very speedy, in fact, it may be grounds to throw the case out and let the traitor walk for multiple murders.
Zimmerman got whacked with $1million bail for a self defense shooting, sounds pretty excessive to me, just because the liberal judge is opposed to "stand your ground".
Good point! I hate it when that happens...but I'm a little drunk! ;D
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Good point! I hate it when that happens...but I'm a little drunk! ;D
Oh goody !
Lets debate something else. ;D
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Oh goody !
Lets debate something else. ;D
Can't...dead battery on the laptop...
See you on Monday... ;D
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It's that pesky 5th Amendment, Sledge....
We have rights as do the "alleged" offenders...
I am willing to chip in for a marksmanship course for the old bugger.
Shame he wasn't a better shot, although it would be satisfying to shoot someone you don't like in the ass (pelvis) and have them know that until the day they die you will have been the cause of that PIA :-) roll on Arthritis roll on I say!