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Member Section => Politics & RKBA => Topic started by: tombogan03884 on July 25, 2012, 06:23:01 PM
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http://news.yahoo.com/blogs/lookout/wake-tragedies-lawyers-step-colorado-shooting-survivor-plans-172430871.html
Torrence Brown Jr., one of the Aurora movie shooting survivors, is planning on suing the theater, confirmed his family's publicist on Wednesday. "We're going to make sure whoever is accountable is going to take responsibility for this tragedy," Cassandra Williams of Wet PR said. She said that Brown, who was friends with 18-year-old AJ Boik, one of the shooting victims, is handling the criticism his suit has sparked. "We know it goes with the territory, so he's fine," Williams said. She added that Brown, 18, is seeking therapy and is emotionally distraught after the shooting.
Brown's attorney Don Karpel told TMZ he plans to sue the Century 16 theater, which is owned by Cinemark, for having an exit door that was not equipped with an alarm or guarded. (Holmes reportedly left the theater through the exit door, propped it open and returned with his weapons.) Karpel also said he may sue Warner Bros for releasing violent movies that may have inspired the shooter, as well as the suspect's doctors, if he had any, for hypothetically not monitoring James Holmes' mental condition properly.
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I am going to ignore the law suit for a second. WHY THE HELL DOES HE HAVE A PUBLICIST?
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Probably because he intends to use the media to his advantage the way Fred Goldman did against OJ.
Sure it sounds sleazy, but if you plan to drive nails you should get yourself a hammer.
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HAHAHAHAHA!!!! He's going to sue over the violent movies that inspired the shooter??? The kid had died his hair like the Joker! So this asshat who went to SEE the Batman movie is going to sue because they MADE the Batman movie. ONLY in the lawyer-rich environment of the USA. I'd still like to see an open season on the law "profession".
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Sheesh...
I thought it was just Tom and me who had "family publicists."
Now I discover this asshat has one, too.
What's the world coming to? /sarc-off
Crusader
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I think suing the theater is a wonderful idea.
I think, however that he is taking the wrong approach by using the violent film angle.
He should concentrate on the chains denial of his right to defend himself by post "No Guns" stickers
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I feel he should be able to sue all guilty parties, in this case that would be the shooter. No one else had any part in this crime, reguardless of how deep their pockets are!
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I feel he should be able to sue all guilty parties, in this case that would be the shooter. No one else had any part in this crime, reguardless of how deep their pockets are!
Didn't you listen to Rahm Immanuel ?
"Never let a crisis go to waste".
Just as the leftists lept on this to renew their calls for discredited gun control laws we should use it as a tool to take back our rights and our nation by rubbing the countries nose in the fact that "gun free zones" place citizens at increased risk of murder.
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Tom, if you sued using the argument that the gun free zone cuased this to happen/ you could not defend yourself. You would lose, and lose very badly. The fact that you knew about the no guns and disarmed willingly, is the death blow for the case. the no gun policy is to protect the equipment.(among others but that is the big one) There have been lots screens shot by patrons for what ever reason. its not something you can just patch. one idiot can litterly make a entire complex un profitable for weeks.
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I know you will have all sorts of objections since you hold a "different" idea on the concept of self defense, I will probably ignore the rest of your posts on the subject.
But I thank you for giving me an excuse to expand on my thoughts.
The point you are missing is that knowing they did not allow guns is one thing.
Being aware that they provided no other security to compensate is another matter entirely.
The argument I would pursue would be that by posting the "No guns" sign the chain prevents law abiding citizens from protecting themselves, since it is their private property they therefore assume responsibility to provide a safe venue, the same as if you slipped on a wet floor.
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How do you prove what you could have done without sounding "gung hoe!"? I am sure they had rent-a-cops there, but we all know that most of those are just for show anyways. Even armed guards are for show.(very strick rules of engament.)
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How do you prove what you could have done without sounding "gung hoe!"? I am sure they had rent-a-cops there, but we all know that most of those are just for show anyways. Even armed guards are for show.(very strick rules of engament.)
Use the examples of New Hope Church, That mall in Utah where the off duty cop stopped the shooter, and the Pearl Miss. incidents to show that an armed citizen has stopped or prevented mass shootings.
I have never seen a rentacop in a movie theater, it was one of the few places in Ca where I did not see one, they don't even have ushers any more, just a couple pimple faced minimum wagers selling tickets and popcorn.
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The last time I was in one, they had them. That was in 1999. No plans to go into one any time soon. Hell its been 9 years since I have evened ownd a tv. A off duty cop is alot diffrent then a ccw holder. at least in the eyes of the general public and the leo community.
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I read today that a duly licensed concealed carry holder in CO can ignore the "no guns allowed" signs in theaters. I have not been able to confirm that.
I cannot find anything in our state laws that says I have to adhere to the signs in MA. I simply ignore them if there are no metal detectors. I've only seen two in all my years as a licensed citizen. One was at the Toy-R-Us store at the mall that was just a 8-1/2 x 11 placard and the other at Bass Pro that suggested you check your sidearm at the counter. I shopped at TRU without question and simply carried my sidearm through the BPS without incident.
CT does have stipulations for private business placards but nothing in MA as far as I can tell.
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In NH all they can do is ask you to leave.
I think.
No one really knows because no business's have "No Guns" signs.
The only one I've ever seen was at the gun show I won't go to again.
Since there were no metal detectors I carried anyway.
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In NH all they can do is ask you to leave.
I think.
No one really knows because no business's have "No Guns" signs.
The only one I've ever seen was at the gun show I won't go to again.
Since there were no metal detectors I carried anyway.
Twenty five years ago, maybe longer, I was doing a decon job at GTE Sylvania in Manchester. They made highway lights with thorium and really crapped up the place! Any way, long story short, we worked for about a year deconning a machine shop settling tank and Chem lab of all the radioactive crap they'd "misplaced". Every day we saw locals fully armed, cocked and locked and going about their day! Not a man on the crew I worked with gave a shite about it....Citizens every one!
Live Free....you know the rest!
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Sadly that's where the gun show was. >:(
On the plus side, I have been in Manchester's "Catholic Medical Center" twice for heart problems and both times I had a pistol with me and no one said squat. I kept my clothes, no one asked and I saw no reason to mention it. ;D
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I like texas 30.06 law.
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Sadly that's where the gun show was. >:(
On the plus side, I have been in Manchester's "Catholic Medical Center" twice for heart problems and both times I had a pistol with me and no one said squat. I kept my clothes, no one asked and I saw no reason to mention it. ;D
If you're ever in the neighborhood of GTE in Manchester. Pull into the lot and take a look inside the transformer yard, inside the fence. You'll see some concrete pylons with a bronze plaque on top of them. We place those plaques to indicate "Buried Radioactive Material" inside the yard. We processed at least 200 solidified 55 gallon drums of waste from that place but we couldn't get it all...
GTE can never, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever sell that property! 8)
Osram Sylvania...655 South Willow Street, Manchester, NH
You can almost make out the pylons on Google earth...
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I've never been there.
Made parts for them though, and for the Exeter plant.